Vesper 30,236 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 yikes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,281 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Vesper said: yikes! ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,962 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Every time I open Twitter it’s excitement that there’s some positive Enzo update and nervousness that Rui Costa will pull some bullshit and refuse to negotiate terms even if the installments eventually get him the full €120m. Glad there’s only 2 days left of this window. Costa19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,102 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, Vesper said: I do not have an immense amount of hope atm for Broja and I rate our offensive incomings higher than you apparently do Broja is over, this is back to the old days where young people that aren't outrageously good just wont get to play. He will be loaned and eventually sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,490 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pizy 18,962 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just offer like €90m up front with easily achievable add-on’s reaching the full €120m. Benfica get their mega money, we get the payment terms in installments to help with FFP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,490 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,080 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jype said: As long as the deal is done by agreeing a €120M transfer fee and not by triggering the €120M buy-out then it won't affect FFP whatever the actual payment schedules. It's not like Clearlake don't have the money in hand if they wanted to pay it in one go so I doubt it's going to be a huge problem if the club are in fact ready to pay the full €120M and on whatever payment terms Benfica demand. Now if Benfica were to be dicks about it they could still just point to the buy-out clause which cannot be amortised and would count as a €120M one-off FFP hit then it's just not going to be done. I'm sure Enzo himself would be thrilled if Benfica fucked over his move over a technicality that doesn't even benefit them at all because either way they'll still get the €120M. I'm pretty sure that pointing to the buyout clause is exactly what Benfica are doing. They'll be saying, "Dear Chelsea, we don't want to sell the player and won't do so so unless we are contractually compelled. So, unless you are determined to spend the amount necessary to proceed with the buyout, would you please go away. If, however, you have persuaded the player to trigger his buyout, and are prepared to give him the money to do it, the deal will cost you €120m plus tax. Then, and only then, we would be prepared to accept a negotiated transfer fee of €120m plus 90% of the tax. You still get the player for less than it would cost to fund the buyout, and this massively improves your FFP position compared to what it would be if the clause was triggered." Chelsea would recognise the 90% ask as a bargaining position and the two clubs would get into a negotiation about exactly how much more than the clause amount Chelsea will pay. As I've said before, this is guesswork, but I don't think truth will be far from it. Edited January 30, 2023 by OhForAGreavsie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,236 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 12 hours ago, Pizy said: No more mega money strikers. We need to put these new scouts and sporting directors to work on finding the next inexpensive gem that can become a superstar. Maybe that’ll be David Fofana. Osimhen is something special, but I do not think we can afford him this coming summer I am not sure if we rate Dušan Vlahović that much, we never have made a move for him, under two ownership regimes now there were two young ones I so wanted and we missed out on both last summer (we tried for both, especially Šeško) Hugo Ekitiké (no way PSG gives him up now) Benjamin Šeško (RB Salzburg, so there is a chance still) other than those, the best conventional deals are Ivan Toney, IF he doesn't get suspended for gambling, and Jonathan David BUT they will be very expensive as well and so that leaves (for me) Rasmus Højlund (19yo, 1.91m Dane at Atalanta, and not crazy expensive yet, huge potential) the rest not listed and who are actually available bore me a bit atm (the thought of them coming here is not awe-inspiring, lol) I think DDF has huge potential, and would love to buy Højlund and then call it a day this summer I am not going to get my hopes up for Osimhen (he is in the same league for us as Bellingham, ie. it would be insanely good to get both or one, but its likely a pipe dream for both or even one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,236 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: ?? the pic is scary AF ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,236 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 12 hours ago, LAM09 said: Benzema could even be an outside option, but it would hinge on a number of factors. Benz is not coming here zero chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,962 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, Vesper said: Osimhen is something special, but I do not think we can afford him this coming summer I am not sure if we rate Dušan Vlahović that much, we never have made a move for him, under two ownership regimes now there were two young ones I so wanted and we missed out on both last summer (we tried for both, especially Šeško) Hugo Ekitiké (no way PSG gives him up now) Benjamin Šeško (RB Salzburg, so there is a chance still) other than those, the best conventional deals are Ivan Toney, IF he doesn't get suspended for gambling, and Jonathan David BUT they will be very expensive as well and so that leaves (for me) Rasmus Højlund (19yo, 1.91m Dane at Atalanta, and not crazy expensive yet, huge potential) the rest not listed and who are actually available bore me a bit atm (the thought of them coming here is not awe-inspiring, lol) I think DDF has huge potential, and would love to buy Højlund and then call it a day this summer I am not going to get my hopes up for Osimhen (he is in the same league for us as Bellingham, ie. it would be insanely good to get both or one, but its likely a pipe dream for both or even one) I just like the idea of Nkunku being our primary striker in the future. Someone who is lightning quick, great in tight areas, awesome dribbler. Bringing in a traditional #9 in my opinion should only be someone inexpensive and as a Plan B. A Giroud type. Perhaps an older veteran like United have just done with Weghorst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Pizy said: I just like the idea of Nkunku being our primary striker in the future. Someone who is lightning quick, great in tight areas, awesome dribbler. Bringing in a traditional #9 in my opinion should only be someone inexpensive and as a Plan B. A Giroud type. Perhaps an older veteran like United have just done with Weghorst. Hes more of a number 10/second striker though. He plays with a more traditional 9 in Andre Silva. Having only played a handful of games for Leipzig as the main striker in the Bundesliga I don't think he will be our main striker. He hasnt played there at all in the CL either hes always played off the front man. I think us using him as a 9 is just going to lead to more frustration in all honesty, like Havertz presently and even lining up with Hazard as a false 9 in the past. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ZAPHOD2319 4,821 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 First offer made Chelsea's latest offer for Enzo Fernández: € 120M with no target bonuses and the money in a signing payment and five other payments. * ⃣ The decision passes purely and exclusively by the president of Benfica, Rui Costa, who must define whether to accept it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, TheHulk said: No way the cnut Rui say no to that! He gets the sum of the release clause. If he fecks this up players will start to be sceptical about Benfica and RCs since there usually is a mutual consensus that you let the player leave if a buying club matches the release clause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,490 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Costa19 said: No way the cnut Rui say no to that! He gets the sum of the release clause. If he fecks this up players will start to be sceptical about Benfica and RCs since there usually is a mutual consensus that you let the player leave if a buying club matches the release clause. Think it will depend how much is upfront. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,490 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Piece of shits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,102 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Personally, if we will have Felix+Nkunku+Havertz on the books I would prefer not to sign a centre forward in a rush in summer, better to play with them and wait for the right opportunity to come up to "complete" the team over the next couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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