Chelsea Transfers

[Tomo 21,751]

2 hours ago, Clockwork said:

Signing Lukaku would literally be Torres 2.0. I remember desperately not wanting Chelsea to sign him, you knew it was train wreck from the beginning. This is what it feels like with Lukaku. He is simply not good enough for a possession heavy team and a top PL side, and most opposition will stack the box and give us little counter opportunities and the space for him to run into. The worst part of the Torres signing, was that we were also linked with Sergio Aguero at the time. Not only was our signing a bust, but the player that escaped us went on to become one of the best strikers in the PL.

Hope history doesn’t repeat itself.

 

 

Even as someone who desperately doesn't want him that is far too much, the Torres we had was the worst striker in the league. As much as I am not in favour in Rom here he will have his uses.

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18 minutes ago, Hermione said:

Lukaku has an eye for the goal and does score consistently I'll give you that but he isn't anywhere near as clinical you make it sound, Belgium went out because of his miss. If we take the penalties out in his 2 seasons at Inter he is averaging a goal every 2 matches, that really isn't that impressive, Tammy more of less can do the same in the premier league, in terms of hold up play Lukaku barely edges Abraham, touch just as poor and both can assist from time to time but again nothing impressive since most are easy assists so what's the point of spending 100 millions on him. Think Lukaku has scored over 20 non penalty league goals in a season just once in his whole career, nothing impressive again.

Lukaku's hold up play is a lot better than Tammy's. That was evident last season. Yes he missed chances for Belgium against Italy but he still scored goals at the tournament. Kane was not clinical. Mbappe wasn't. It happens. Like I say if you saw Lukaku last season, it is no way you can say his hold up play did not improve hugely. It did.

[Tomo 21,751]

45 minutes ago, Stats said:

Tomo, I respect a lot of your opinions, but I think you are being too harsh on Lukaku. I get some of the scrutiny about us signing him, however his goal record each season is fantastic. I remember you actually thought he would struggle in Italy due to the way the football was played over there and to be fair to him, he has bossed that league easily. Having an ego is not always a bad thing unless you are willing to put 100% into your football and that is what Lukaku does.

Let's face it he did not want to fight for his place when he was here but that was how many years ago? A near decade or so right? And let's face it, he probably has come out better and turned out to be one of the best strikers around. I can see why Tuchel wants him tbh. He has all the physical tools and pace. His technique has also improved as well. Conte literally developed his game, past couple seasons.

I agree that Havertz can become a top false no.9, but at the same time do I think there will be games where a natural no.9 costs us? I think there will.

I also see no reason why Havertz can not flourish playing of Lukaku. Lukaku as proved last season is not just pure goals. He was joint highest in the assist table or so, I am sure.

Also if you look at Lewa's goal record at his age, Lukaku for me still has another good 4 years or so in him. His fitness record is brilliant and rarely ever gets injured. The age thing is not a worry for me. Haaland would be first choice for most but looking at our goalscoring troubles last season, I get why Tuchel wants Lukaku. He scores goals with his left, right and header and is clinical as they come. I think he would be a monster here personally. At United, I think he was a good striker who had flaws. Now I believe he is a world class striker. He was completely unstoppable last season and fired Inter to their first league title in how long? He deserves a lot more credit from people imo.

Has much changed? He pulled exactly the same thing at United as soon as Ole came in and told him to fight for his place (who have been much better since), and I mean literally the same thing (pissed off to train with Anderlect until he got his way).

Regarding the bolded bit i will hold my hands up that he has done much better in Italy than I thought and as I pointed out in my previous post I don't deny he has his plus points but I really am not sure he fits the way Tuchel wants us to play certainly not for almost every match situation, if he came in as a horses for courses option who was used when his skillset would help in a game then I wouldn't actually be against him returning, but at that price he will be playing every single minute of any game of note and I really don't think he is that good. Also what has to he noted when it comes to me is I am that sure of Havertz as the striker I'm even relatively indifferent to the prospect of Haaland.

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Lukaku stats in England from 2012-13 to last season at Manchester United 

302 games 
146 goals
48 assists

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[Jase 43,479]

19 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

 

Hey, everyone's favorite Belgian journalist is back...

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3 hours ago, Hermione said:

Why should the board care now? They didn't care when Conte delivered the title and he wanted VVD, if it's not possible to get a top striker, it's not possible nothing personal against Tuchel, he must understand the future of this club is important as well, and aside that if Lukaku doesn't work what will happen, will he blame the board they delivered the wrong striker to him? Will he want another one? The truth is if a top striker is available, expensive or not go for it and get it for him of course, he deserves it but if such a top class striker isn't available what can you do aside waiting until one gets available?

Also Tuchel might be a top class coach but his record in the transfer market is poor, I wouldn't trust him in the market.

Never mind Conte, the club didn't even back Mourinho back in 2015 after winning the League Cup and Premier League. If the club didn't back our most successful manager in terms of trophies won, then should we surprised if they are doing the same with others? 

That said, I don't even think this is "not backing the manager" case. Sure, the manager will have input but the club have always acted on what they see is best for the club (the rights and wrongs of their decisions are another debate). Ultimately, what they say goes. It's precisely why we wanted a German manager and why we got someone like Tuchel in because they are used to working with this model at a club. It's similar to Klopp at Liverpool where he will get to have his say but at the end of day, the club are the ones that make the final call and the manager has to work with whatever he's given. 

As for Lukaku, yes he's a striker but are the club really that desperate to spend 100 million+ on a 28-year-old with no resale value? It seems to go against their recent transfer policy and it will rule us out entirely of getting Haaland next year, even if the odds don't favor us of getting him then. 

[Vesper 30,083]

9 hours ago, Jas said:

 

over £100m in cash and player value is madness for Lukaku, especially as it is mostly cash

and as Inter have turned it down, IF we do do the deal it will likely be over £120m

he turns 30yo in the 2022-23 season (at the end)

he is a huge, bulky player, utterly dependent on his burst speed, which will quite possibly start to go by then

 

[Tomo 21,751]

Thinking back to my post yesterday about Lukaku's arrival forcing us to a back 4, thinking about it properly, could it actually be that Puli's appearance at wingback at The Emirates won't be a one off?

[Blues Forever 1,232]

9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

over £100m in cash and player value is madness for Lukaku, especially as it is mostly cash

and as Inter have turned it down, IF we do do the deal it will likely be over £120m

he turns 30yo in the 2022-23 season (at the end)

he is a huge, bulky player, utterly dependent on his burst speed, which will quite possibly start to go by then

 

Agree, for example Aubameyang is only 32 but pretty much already in decline since last year.

Edited August 3, 2021 by Blues Forever