Chelsea Transfers

[Blue Armour 4,572]

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

It likely got lost in the shuffle, but wow, was selling Renato Veiga (who is having a great year) and keeping trash like Badi a huge mistake (as predicted), as Badi is a lefty like Veiga, is always injured, and is simply not as good a CB as Veiga, IMHO. Veiga also can play DMF if need be.

This one is probably down to Maresca, who never seemed to rate Veiga.

[Vesper 30,554]

46 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

This one is probably down to Maresca, who never seemed to rate Veiga.

no idea why

he is a really solid CB

so much better than Badi

[Special Juan 28,348]

Veiga was sold because the board seen money

[Vesper 30,554]

5 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Veiga was sold because the board seen money

was a fucking POOR sale

I said so at the time

it is not THAT often I lose my shit over buys before they kick a ball for us (I was willing to give Gittens and Garnacho and even Muddy a chance, for instance)

but

I lost my shit over Badi, Disasi, Sterling, Fofana (Fofana because he was already damaged goods, pre Leicester injury FoFana was close to WC), KDH (mainly because he is decent midtable player, not Chels level, as he is now showing at Everton), Drinkwater, Lukaku, and (mainly due to the price paid) CuCu

CuCu proved me dead wrong on that one, but all the others have been or were shambolic

Tosin was on a free, but he deffo shows you get what you pay for

[Special Juan 28,348]

Mudryk, I forgot about him.. oh dear god

[Vesper 30,554]

2 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Mudryk, I forgot about him.. oh dear god

I am still willing to give him a shot IF we are transfer banned

at least we will never come close to paying the full £89m for him

it will end up being around £62m, which is still far too much

and IF he is banned for 4 years I think we get most back via insurance

[Special Juan 28,348]

Mudryk has done more being out than he has done when playing

[Vesper 30,554]

14 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Mudryk has done more being out than he has done when playing

very true

[OneMoSalah 8,954]

3 hours ago, Special Juan said:

Veiga was sold because the board seen money

He never looked that brilliant either in any of the variety of positions he played anyway. Was he a LB? A CB? A 6? 

And whilst folk will say he’s doing well or is better than player X Y or Z, in all likelihood he’d of been just as much a bag of shite as the rest of them here. Thats just based off of our recruitment strategy & the success rate these sporting directors have had with 75% plus of their signings.

If we want to replace players like Tosin, Badiashile & see a huge improvement in the first 11 then the replacements need to be TOP TOP players who are lightyears ahead of them. Not more average/similar level of players - which is 100% what Veiga would’ve fallen under. Anyone saying otherwise is just lying to themselves.

Hato was apparently a good signing in the summer now everyone’s going on about Veiga & saying he should’ve been kept. And if we loan/sell Hato & sign another player of similar profile/level it will be the same again 100% 😂

[Vesper 30,554]

1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

He never looked that brilliant either in any of the variety of positions he played anyway. Was he a LB? A CB? A 6? 

And whilst folk will say he’s doing well or is better than player X Y or Z, in all likelihood he’d of been just as much a bag of shite as the rest of them here. Thats just based off of our recruitment strategy & the success rate these sporting directors have had with 75% plus of their signings.

If we want to replace players like Tosin, Badiashile & see a huge improvement in the first 11 then the replacements need to be TOP TOP players who are lightyears ahead of them. Not more average/similar level of players - which is 100% what Veiga would’ve fallen under. Anyone saying otherwise is just lying to themselves.

Hato was apparently a good signing in the summer now everyone’s going on about Veiga & saying he should’ve been kept. And if we loan/sell Hato & sign another player of similar profile/level it will be the same again 100% 😂

I feel this is a mischaracterisation of my stances.

I said at the time it was a bad sale (of Veiga). I am a 'lead-from-the front person, I look at things at project in a future-forward manner, both shorter AND longer term.

I also never said that Veiga was the type of player we should buy as a nailed-on starter.

I simply think he is better than most of our CURRENT options. And as a CB, not a 'fill-in-a-hole' Swiss Army knife type.

I have posted voluminously as to the great players we should buy (and should have bought), actual mainstay, nailed-on WC starter types.