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Just now, Simon1991 said:

What's his position? He's not a 10, not a 9, not a winger, not a 8.

The guy isnt a great passer, finisher or dribbler, cannot beat his man. He's a hard worker, great at defending (as a 9), and has good overall link-up play.

Did you see the sitter he missed again today? He has missed MASSIVE chances in almost all of Arsenal last 5 games, and their fans are now seeing what we knew already when they took him from us, he's decent at best. Never good enough for a top team.

Havertz is a 10 imo, he would be great behind a proper number 9, here he was used as a 9 because we had no other options, and I believe if he was still here he would have scored more goals under this manager and poch than Jackson. We will never no it’s just opinions 

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4 minutes ago, Stats said:

Fair enough. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I would say he has found the net more at Arsenal but generally speaking the same levels of inconsistency is showing. I prefer Jackson to Havertz too. Havertz is a decent striker but like I say is just not prolific enough. He rarely ever scores goals like he did today. Very good at headers but I want my no.9 to strike fear to the opposition and he just doesn't. If they signed Watkins, they are complete.

As it stands he’s a better number 9 than Jackson imo and Havertz isn’t really a number 9, Jackson is brilliant at getting into chances but he can’t put them away, you can’t coach that or teach it it’s just instinct and he doesn’t have it maybe he will, but my point still stands, if we had Havertz up top this season I honestly think we would have won these games Jackson managed to lose us points, yes the keeper fucks up and we lose games but half the time it’s because we have missed more chances to score and it always bites us in the arse

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Just now, Mário César said:

do you forgot how he celebrated against us?

Move on from that wanker.

I don’t care if they celebrate against us or not, I also remember he won us a champions league so who gives a fuck what he does now he doesn’t play here

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4 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Havertz is a 10 imo, he would be great behind a proper number 9, here he was used as a 9 because we had no other options, and I believe if he was still here he would have scored more goals under this manager and poch than Jackson. We will never no it’s just opinions 

He's not played in that position for 5 years, and most teams don't play with a classic number 10 anymore anyway. Yeah, move on, he's really a mid player, im glad we got 75m for that donkey lover.

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Just now, Simon1991 said:

He's not played in that position for 5 years, and most teams don't play with a classic number 10 anymore anyway. Yeah, move on, he's really a mid player, im glad we got 75m for that donkey lover.

Yeah the money was good, but money is worthless when u don’t reinvest it, so we got 75m and bought the likes of mudryk so why bother? 

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1 minute ago, YorkshireBlue said:

I don’t care if they celebrate against us or not, I also remember he won us a champions league so who gives a fuck what he does now he doesn’t play here

He fumbled up that chance and got lucky to be honest. And saying that when we had players like  Silva, Kante, Chilly, even Giroud, who had more impact on that CL than Kai.

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Just now, YorkshireBlue said:

Yeah the money was good, but money is worthless when u don’t reinvest it, so we got 75m and bought the likes of mudryk so why bother? 

Im with you on Mudryk, the club messed up 😂

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Just now, Simon1991 said:

He fumbled up that chance and got lucky to be honest. And saying that when we had players like  Silva, Kante, Chilly, even Giroud, who had more impact on that CL than Kai.

Kai still scored, fluff or not u can’t take that away from him 

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6 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

As it stands he’s a better number 9 than Jackson imo and Havertz isn’t really a number 9, Jackson is brilliant at getting into chances but he can’t put them away, you can’t coach that or teach it it’s just instinct and he doesn’t have it maybe he will, but my point still stands, if we had Havertz up top this season I honestly think we would have won these games Jackson managed to lose us points, yes the keeper fucks up and we lose games but half the time it’s because we have missed more chances to score and it always bites us in the arse

I disagree. Havertz rarely scores more than one goal in a game. I feel all the flaws you said about Jackson is literally the same for Havertz. Havertz has missed loads of sitters this season himself. Just look at the United game in the FA Cup (excluding the penalty) as well as the Newcastle game. He missed open goal today also. I am mot saying Jackson does not miss sitters but they both are equally as bad when it comes to missing chances. Arsenal win more games because they have a better defence and are just a better team.

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4 minutes ago, Stats said:

I disagree. Havertz rarely scores more than one goal in a game. I feel all the flaws you said about Jackson is literally the same for Havertz. Havertz has missed loads of sitters this season himself. Just look at the United game in the FA Cup (excluding the penalty) as well as the Newcastle game. He missed open goal today also. I am mot saying Jackson does not miss sitters but they both are equally as bad when it comes to missing chances. Arsenal win more games because they have a better defence and are just a better team.

So if that’s your opinion and I’m not here to say it’s wrong or right, was there any real need to sell Havertz to buy Jackson, in fact for most of our players sold have we done anything with that money except caicedo and palmer I would argue we’re worth it, can’t think of any other player we have signed I would have over the team that won the champions league actually maybe kova because he was absolutely shite today

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5 minutes ago, Mário César said:

Kai has not be nothing special for them. They need a better strike to win the league in the future

I call bs on this, Liverpool seem To have no problem scoring goals and there number 9 option is what Darwin? 

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3 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

So if that’s your opinion and I’m not here to say it’s wrong or right, was there any real need to sell Havertz to buy Jackson, in fact for most of our players sold have we done anything with that money except caicedo and palmer I would argue we’re worth it, can’t think of any other player we have signed I would have over the team that won the champions league actually maybe kova because he was absolutely shite today

Well I personally think, the club did not have a fixed position for Havertz and I think the idea was to have another CF here, however Jackson looked really good in pre-season and start of season, so they kind of relied on him. He was half the price we sold for Havertz and if a team is willing to pay that much for a player who doesn't really fit in your team or has no tailor-made position, the money was too good to turn down. Similar to Mount. We ideally did not want him to go to another English team but as time went on, he had no fixed position and when United came in with that offer, was a no-brainer.

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3 minutes ago, Stats said:

Well I personally think, the club did not have a fixed position for Havertz and I think the idea was to have another CF here, however Jackson looked really good in pre-season and start of season, so they kind of relied on him. He was half the price we sold for Havertz and if a team is willing to pay that much for a player who doesn't really fit in your team or has no tailor-made position, the money was too good to turn down. Similar to Mount. We ideally did not want him to go to another English team but as time went on, he had no fixed position and when United came in with that offer, was a no-brainer.

The money was a no brainier, but getting the money and spending it are two different things, I would argue selling mount and Havertz hasn’t put us in a better position than if we hadn’t sold them, mount could have played lw and saved us a shit ton on mudryk, when ever we chose to sell mount he would have still been pure profit, same with Gallagher, him and caicedo were a better partnership than him and Enzo, personally for me Enzo is up there with mudryk of wastes of money

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BREAKING: Carney Chukwuemeka set to fly to Dortmund tonight. Confidence between parties on a loan deal. (@berger_pj)

 

Borussia Dortmund agree loan deal for Carney Chukwuemeka from Chelsea, here we go!

Loan move and buy option clause included for value higher than £40m release clause.

Salary covered until June and loan fee also included. Medical on Monday.

(Fabrizio Romano)

 

Dortmund have agreed a deal with Diant Ramaj to prepare for a possible future departure of Gregor Kobel, who Chelsea FC and others are interested in. (@berger_pj)

 

Agreement between Marseille and Chelsea for the loan of Anselmino but Chelsea must now decide how to manage loan spots. (@FabrizioRomano)

 

Christopher Nkunku to Man United is not being progressed.

(@lauriewhitwell & @TheAthleticFC)

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54 minutes ago, mkh said:

 

Christopher Nkunku to Man United is not being progressed.

(@lauriewhitwell & @TheAthleticFC)

Great, now we're stuck with a player that doesn't want to be here.  Will be same as Felix, just waiting around on the bench. 

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1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said:

I call bs on this, Liverpool seem To have no problem scoring goals and there number 9 option is what Darwin? 

They have Salah and then x-factors like Diaz, Gakpo, Jota

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