OneMoSalah 9,104 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Vesper said: disagree Zakharyan is exactly the type of creative No 10 AMF we lack Mount is never going to be that he is young and inexpensive atm, with huge upside potential we are fools to not try every trick in the book to attempt to pull him into our orbit Nkunku and Felix are more SS types than No 10's But would it not be pointless overloading one position with potentially 4 players if Mount stays and if we look to sign Felix which has been heavily hinted no? And I don’t know what the formality is with the Nkunku deal but it is “agreed” and would imagine that it is still on. For that reason alone, I was skeptical of us signing Felix but it wouldn’t surprise me now, it just seems like it will happen. There are a lot of young and inexpensive players right now but we aren’t going to be able to sign them all. I just don’t see where he fits in the next 2, 3 or 4 seasons with Nkunku coming in, Mount potentially (would still say 75% chance) still being here and I don’t think we can discount Felix ending up here either now with all the noise re him. And with the kid being 19 he has to also think about that. If we don’t keep Mount or sign Felix then maybe but I have a feeling both will be Chelsea players next season. And if the logic is just sign him because well why let anyone else sign him, then I don’t know just daft. There is no viable logic on unnecessarily stockpiling young players right now particularly as we have just went and signed maybe 7 players under the age of 22. Have no multi club model in place. Have limitations on loan players coming up in the next 1 or 2 years. Edited February 22, 2023 by OneMoSalah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, robsblubot said: I don't get it. Why does Mount, and only Mount, needs to be that player? So, a team has 2 (maybe even 3) other positions to fill a role they lack in mid/attack. We don't even have an established right winger, and yet Mount *has to deliver the creative role*. There is nothing written anywhere that the left winger has to be the creative one... Hazard vibes? not singling out Mount per se but he is often brought up as being an AMF type same for Kai, who is far too slow with his feeds and also his lack of slashing drives for a lay-off assist our current MFers none are creative, No 10 type great passers IMHO Enzo Fernández N'Golo Kanté Denis Zakaria Mateo Kovacic Conor Gallagher Ruben Loftus-Cheek Carney Chukwuemeka Andrey Santos Mason Mount Kai Havertz the U21 Omari Hutchinson is potentially the closest to that archetype, but seems more of winger atm Cesare Casadei is more of a box to box CMF type Edited February 22, 2023 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: But would it not be pointless overloading one position with potentially 4 players if Mount stays and if we look to sign Felix which has been heavily hinted no? And I don’t know what the formality is with the Nkunku deal but it is “agreed” and would imagine that it is still on. For that reason alone, I was skeptical of us signing Felix but it wouldn’t surprise me now, it just seems like it will happen. There are a lot of young and inexpensive players right now but we aren’t going to be able to sign them all. I just don’t see where he fits in the next 2, 3 or 4 seasons with Nkunku coming in, Mount potentially (would still say 75% chance) still being here and I don’t think we can discount Felix ending up here either now with all the noise re him. And with the kid being 19 he has to also think about that. If we don’t keep Mount or sign Felix then maybe but I have a feeling both will be Chelsea players next season. And if the logic is just sign him because well why let anyone else sign him, then I don’t know just daft. There is no viable logic on unnecessarily stockpiling young players right now particularly as we have just went and signed maybe 7 players under the age of 22. Have no multi club model in place. Have limitations on loan players coming up in the next 1 or 2 years. I don't see it as overloading at all, as we have no player atm truly like Zakharyan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Vesper said: not singling out Mount per se but he is often brought up as being an AMF type same for Kai, you is far to slow with his feeds and also his lack of slashing drives for a lay-off assist our current MFers none are creative, No 10 type great passers IMHO Enzo Fernández N'Golo Kanté Denis Zakaria Mateo Kovacic Conor Gallagher Ruben Loftus-Cheek Carney Chukwuemeka Andrey Santos Mason Mount Kai Havertz the U21 Omari Hutchinson is potentially the closest to that archetype, but seems more of winger atm Cesare Casadei is more of a box to box CMF type Yeah I think Kai is the player who often enjoys this free role and does not really deliver in that position: neither goals nor creativity. That's one of the reasons I like him in the striker position. I fear that he's just not active/creative enough for the CAM position, and my last hope is that he adapts to the striker position well enough. I agree that we lack creativity, and the manager often plays Zyech on the right trying to fill that role. He's been a bust for us, so that won't work. The 2 new wingers so far look very FW-like to me, but I need to see more. Right now playing both + a 9 against any strong side would be suicide. Edited February 22, 2023 by robsblubot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Alvarez just one start in the last 7 games. Played just 3 mins last 3. With Haaland can't see how is this going to change in the future. At 23 he cannot continue career like this. We saw City don't have a problem selling to the rivals with Sterling, Jesus, Zinchenko. Maybe we can push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Is Victor Roque really so good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Athletic reporting Madrid won't pay for Bellingham. Also Klopp job under threat. They were 2 front runners for him. I don't think we need him. Maybe United gets him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 hours ago, ulvhedin said: Is Victor Roque really so good? not for the insane money (€60m-€80m) being bandied about it's Vitor, btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 40 minutes ago, Vesper said: not for the insane money (€60m-€80m) being bandied about it's Vitor, btw Oh, right. What about Lesley Ugochukwu, any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, ulvhedin said: Oh, right. What about Lesley Ugochukwu, any good? need to see more on Ugochukwu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,345 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Vesper said: not for the insane money (€60m-€80m) being bandied about it's Vitor, btw You sound like the bloody Hyundai advert on the radio!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 31,105 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 4 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said: You sound like the bloody Hyundai advert on the radio!!!!!! Correcting a misspelling is not the same as framing pronunciation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,345 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Vesper said: Correcting a misspelling is not the same as framing pronunciation. 🤦🤦 Bet your fun at party's 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 4 hours ago, TheHulk said: There is some toxicity around. Someone is trying to disturb the club. Why would anyone be concerned if we sell homegrown players? 😂 And pretty sure those one who are concerned are some irrelevant people no one should care about. Good one will stay for sure like Chilwell and James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 31,105 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 8 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said: 🤦🤦 Bet your fun at party's 🤣 I am. Especially when I wear only body paint, a collar, and a leash with which wifey leads me around. Hashishi, cfccrost and bigbluewillie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,345 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 48 minutes ago, Vesper said: I am. Especially when I wear only body paint, a collar, and a leash with which wifey leads me around. Yeah.... Doesn't sound like my kinda party tbh 😂 bohops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Yeah.... Doesn't sound like my kinda party tbh 😂 The Depressions - Chains & Leather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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