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Felix is such a waste. Literally the same player Havertz is, overrated, weak and equally useless in front of goal. Heard he has more yellow cards than assists in his career. Our problem is creating and scoring chances. Now ppl think we can solve this by signing a player who never has had more than 5 assists in a season.

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49 minutes ago, Jype said:

I'm sure the same phrase was said about many of our current underperforming attacking players before they signed, only for them to turn out the way they have after the move. Is Felix really all that or is it just a case of 'grass is always greener on the other side'?

Felix' goal record so far in his career certainly doesn't suggest he's a great finisher. 58 goals in roughly 200 games for Benfica, Atletico and the Portugal NT. For comparison Havertz has 86 career goals for Leverkusen, Chelsea and Germany NT in just under 300 games so their track records are almost identical and most of us think Havertz is a shit goalscorer.

He's also averaging less than 1 successful dribble a game throughout his career so not really sure if him being able to beat a man is true either.

Also has the makings of yet another player we can't find the best position for, much like Havertz. Felix is not that great as a lone striker, nor is he all that good as a winger. His best role is something that doesn't exist in our team.

Happy to be proven wrong and I do hope he does but just seems like a pointless signing to me, especially if we don't even have a buy option included. Even if he's a big success and bangs in 10 goals in the 20 odd games we have remaining, that still won't get us CL qualification for next season and chances are in the summer he'll just go back to Atletico (with Simeone rumored to be leaving after the season) or use the impressive performances to earn himself a move to another club with CL football on offer. If he's a massive hit we'll still have very little upside to this deal but if he's a failure it's just £16M down the drain.

In short, Felix's skills are attractive looking but they don't do enough damage to the opposition.

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8 hours ago, Vesper said:

so name the names of these players we need to go after

I could list a bunch of players who look good to me; who exhibit passing, finishing, movement, tenacity etc. However, I don't have a ability to say whether they could be brought here and all that would translate. I'm not a scout or analyst even though that would be a sweet job!

What I do know from past observations of our transfers is that a player like Felix is precisely the profile who comes here and struggles; it's actually uncanny how much he fits (that's why I said I "knew" he'd end up here). I'm almost certain this guy will flop if he comes here. I've seen this play out way too many times; he'll come here, get an elbow to the face or stud to the shin in his first game or two, and sink so far into himself we'll forget he plays for us.

Furthermore, I'd also say that this kind of activity might actually be a big red flag for players who do have the ability, mentality and competitiveness we need (to be challenging). That's why I'd also be sceptical on Enzo. 

Sorry, I don't have a list, and all the above is just my (uneducated) opinion. It is based on observations at our activity and performance though. I do hope I'm wrong 😀

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17 hours ago, TheHulk said:

I guess shipping him to Atletico is always an option. Think he would be decent under Simeone.

Regardless of how Inter actually feel, saying things like this is the right negotiating tactic ahead of any loan renewal talks.

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14 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

In short, Felix's skills are attractive looking but they don't do enough damage to the opposition.

Yeah, that's probably it. Flashy player for the Youtube/TikTok compilations but in reality does very little and lacks consistency.

Just because Atletico got scammed into paying almost 130M€ for him doesn't make him that great.

3 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I also like Lavia more than Santos. Much more.

Which Italian bloke?

The Italian bloke would be Casadei, right? Completely different type of midfielders though, so not a great comparison.

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18 minutes ago, Bren said:

I could list a bunch of players who look good to me; who exhibit passing, finishing, movement, tenacity etc. However, I don't have a ability to say whether they could be brought here and all that would translate. I'm not a scout or analyst even though that would be a sweet job!

When I watch the 18s and the 21s I often see scouts taking notes with their paper or digital pads. Sometimes there are entire blocks of them. They always make me feel very envious. Early this season there were hordes of them at the 21s game vs Man City. A game in which a lad who played right back for City was the standout performer. A few days later he joined Southampton. I'm guessing at least some of the scouts that night were watching him.

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4 minutes ago, Jype said:

The Italian bloke would be Casadei, right? Completely different type of midfielders though, so not a great comparison.

Yes agreed, they are totally different. That's why I checked. Also he's not first team ready and I have my doubts that he ever will be.

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I wasn’t high on the Badiashile signing either but I’ll give him 5 or so games before judging him. Same goes for Felix. I’ll reserve judgment until I see how he is used. 

Since so many attacking players are injured I would play him together with Kai in a 2 striker system.  

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15 hours ago, bluesman2610 said:

Are people really trying to pretend that Joao Felix technical ability and creativity are not far superior than anyone we have who plays in our midfield or attack? Before he went to Atletico I remember people in here ready to give their left nut to have him in our team.

A player with skills equivalent to those Felix has would be an automatic selection for The Harlem Globetrotters, but would he cut it in the NBA? Felix has the eye catching touches and movements but does he hurt the opposition enough? He has all the trimmings, but is there enough meat there? I have had, and still have, doubts about what he brings to the team.

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