Chelsea Transfers

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

15 minutes ago, communicate said:

Are we interested in werner? 

That is a good question. I can't remember if anyone from the Chelsea staff has ever spoke of acquiring him?

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"Mané and Aubemayang can kill you in open space. But Barcelona need players who know how to move in small spaces.” - Xavi on what strikers would/would not be suitable for Barcelona during an Instagram live

 

If not Barca we have good chance here.

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3 hours ago, communicate said:

Are we interested in werner? 

 

3 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

That is a good question. I can't remember if anyone from the Chelsea staff has ever spoke of acquiring him?

Almost certain that there have been stories saying we are interested in Werner. It's just obviously Liverpool look the more likely destination for him...

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5 hours ago, King Kante said:

I am not sure we will have the money to buy him. This CV19 situation is going to hit finances hard and the money we have spare will need to go on operating costs. In particular, where we will get screwed is with our loan players. We have a lot of players on the books that we thought we would either be able to sell or at least loan out and have their wages covered. However, due to this situation, we are probably going to have a shed load of them at the club next year and/or have to loan them out and cover part or most of their wages. 

For instance, here is just a few examples of player we thought we would be able to sell/loan with their wages covered; 

Baka - £110k a week.

Drinky - £100k a week 

Baba - £70k a week 

Moses - £70k a week 

Zappa - £65k a week 

Pasalic - £30k a week 

After that, you then have players in the first team squad that were presumed to be sold who are also unlikely to move: 

Alonso - £90k a week

Emerson - £50k a week 

Barkley - £100k a week 

Batsh*t - £80k a week 

That alone makes approx £765k a week in wages, which is £39.5m+ a year in wages we will have to take a hit on, and that is before you write off any value that you were expecting them to bring you. 

Further to this, matchday revenue is not returning for a while (so add £20m+) and then you have issues around sponsorship monies and tv/CL money which is all up in the air. 

All in all, I just do not see where we are generating enough cash to buy players. Only way we may be able to do something is with swap deals but the problem here is that, apart from Pasalic, all the players are on wages that they will not get elsewhere, so are unlikely going to want to move.

No matter what pretty sure all players on first list will be at least loaned out next season.

Emerson is going to Italy also.

Alonso is staying as backup which is fine because it gives Frank flexibility to change formation from time to time.

I like Ross and hopefully someone will take Bats.

Btw Alonso is on 150k per week 

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5 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

No matter what pretty sure all players on first list will be at least loaned out next season.

Emerson is going to Italy also.

Alonso is staying as backup which is fine because it gives Frank flexibility to change formation from time to time.

I like Ross and hopefully someone will take Bats.

Btw Alonso is on 150k per week 

Problem is with the first list is that even if they are loaned out, a number of them will have to have their wages subsidised. Further, with their problems and knees I am not too sure anyone is going to want to risk even subsidising part of Zappa, Drinky or Baba so they will either be here or on loan with us paying full wack. 

As for Alonso, I just did some checking and I have found various sites state £100k and not £90k or £150k: 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.goal.com/en-qa/amp/news/inter-chelsea-alonso-pedro-giroud-leave-january/1lwcjqi22pgpq1viq8s3x2ez19

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5 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I mentioned a while back it'll be interesting to see just how good value Ziyech will prove to be. If we had waited until after this situation may we have got him for £20-25m? Or if we had waited perhaps teams would have viewed him as a cheaper alternative to someone like Sancho and there would have been much more competition for him?

 

We do not know this until we see him in action for us.

We all think it is great buy and I think he will be good but we have example of Mkhitaryan.

Last season in Dortmund in 15/16 season he had 23 goals and 32 assists! He was basically best player in the Bundesliga.

It did not turn out good after in UTD so we will see with Ziyech...

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2 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Problem is with the first list is that even if they are loaned out, a number of them will have to have their wages subsidised. Further, with their problems and knees I am not too sure anyone is going to want to risk even subsidising part of Zappa, Drinky or Baba so they will either be here or on loan with us paying full wack. 

As for Alonso, I just did some checking and I have found various sites state £100k and not £90k or £150k: 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.goal.com/en-qa/amp/news/inter-chelsea-alonso-pedro-giroud-leave-january/1lwcjqi22pgpq1viq8s3x2ez19

Roma is paying full Zappacosta wages and they want him for next season. I saw reports. Inter want to buy Moses on discount. With one year left on contract we should accept that instead of 10m asking price.

Clubs are interested in Baka and no issue with Pasalic. Drinkwater and Baba are problem that is true.

Alonso previous contract was 90k or 100k a week. New one is 150k.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6310563/Marcos-Alonso-signs-new-five-year-Chelsea-deal-club-secure-future-2023.html

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3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Roma is paying full Zappacosta wages and they want him for next season. I saw reports. Inter want to buy Moses on discount. With one year left on contract we should accept that instead of 10m asking price.

Clubs are interested in Baka and no issue with Pasalic. Drinkwater and Baba are problem that is true.

Alonso previous contract was 90k or 100k a week. New one is 150k.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6310563/Marcos-Alonso-signs-new-five-year-Chelsea-deal-club-secure-future-2023.html

every single site I saw says Alonso is on £100K PW

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4 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

We do not know this until we see him in action for us.

We all think it is great buy and I think he will be good but we have example of Mkhitaryan.

Last season in Dortmund in 15/16 season he had 23 goals and 32 assists! He was basically best player in the Bundesliga.

It did not turn out good after in UTD so we will see with Ziyech...

Yeah completely agree, no player can be rightfully assessed until they come here and succeed or fail.

I probably should have been more clearer, but what I meant was the Ziyech deal looked like tremendous value in the market a couple of months ago just based on transfer fees and prices quoted around the continent. It will be interesting to see if that valuation still holds up after this situation.

The assumption would be not, but perhaps players in that sort of price bracket will hold their price better because there may be a greater demand for them now, as the players in higher price brackets (e.g. Sancho) are much more difficult to afford then they may have been before all of this.

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5 hours ago, Jason said:

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I am 100% sure that United will NOT pursue werner unless somebody is crazy at United

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5 hours ago, communicate said:

I am 100% sure that United will NOT pursue werner unless somebody is crazy at United

Probably just Werner team pushing for Liverpool move so they make up Chelsea and Utd interest. 

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17 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Roma is paying full Zappacosta wages and they want him for next season. I saw reports. Inter want to buy Moses on discount. With one year left on contract we should accept that instead of 10m asking price.

Clubs are interested in Baka and no issue with Pasalic. Drinkwater and Baba are problem that is true.

Alonso previous contract was 90k or 100k a week. New one is 150k.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6310563/Marcos-Alonso-signs-new-five-year-Chelsea-deal-club-secure-future-2023.html

I think that is the only article that has Alonso at £150k a week, lets hope for our sakes that figure is something the DM have made up. 

Zappa got his wages covered this year, but what about next when he is coming off an ACL and a football economy that has had a massive shock? Baka has been linked to PSG by sites like Goal/Daily Express etc, I am not too sure to believe them. However, what we do know is that Monaco aren't taking their option up. Moses will probably end up at Inter again, but I will bet that is for another loan and not a sale (unless we do some swap deal). Drinky is now a complete loss. Pasalic is not an issue as he is both on reasonable wages and had a good year or so. 

Personally, I still think we are not going to have much to spend as the loan army still needs their wages covered and a lot of our dead wood, are essentially unsellable in this market as no one is going to pay them their current wages (ok, maybe Emerson, but what his fee will be is anyones guess.) 

This situation sort of reminds me of 2004-07 where we had a lot of players on high wages but not good enough for the first team squad who we either had to loan and cover their wages or either released them/saw them see out their contracts. 

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Could someone list all the credible people to follow on twitter for Chelsea transfer news? And Chelsea in general?

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12 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Could someone list all the credible people to follow on twitter for Chelsea transfer news? And Chelsea in general?

simple

NONE

well, Matt Law

other than him, it is ALL tosh

I do not even know why I post articles anymore about targets (from a paper or site)

I am sticking to my own scouting and just offering up good choices

it really is all bullshit atm

I think there is fair chance we buy no one besides Ziyech

I will believe it when I see it

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Added Matt Law

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5 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Probably just Werner team pushing for Liverpool move so they make up Chelsea and Utd interest. 

I can see us signing Werner but united, what is the point. They have Rashford and Martial 

Is Werner that much better than those two? 

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Think we’ve learned by now our board works well under the radar recently. 
 

Kovacic, Kepa, Jorginho, Pulisic, Ziyech, 

All these signings happened under the media’s noses. We really can’t expect anything to happen until it happens. 

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