closed Brighton 1-1 Chelsea

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

I was constantly arguing people who somehow watched him and were coming to the conclusion he was better than Sturridge and Eto'o.

Then I must have totally forgotten about it. Gotta forgive the old man memory here. 😛

[MoroccanBlue 5,215]

5 hours ago, chelsea_4_eva said:

Tuchel mentioned something about mentally tired and i can quite see it, the togetherness and grit we had is not as it was before. Something is off in the dressing room..

Getting so sick of hearing that excuse. Why are Havertz, Werner, and even bloody Saul never used? Mount is rotated every other game?

 

[Mário César 823]

havertz, werner, ziyech, pulisic... all are not good enough

too money spended in shit players

we won the champions league because was a knockout competition. in the league, no chance that we can win with this players. no way 

[cosmicway 1,262]

6 minutes ago, Mário César said:

havertz, werner, ziyech, pulisic... all are not good enough

too money spended in shit players

we won the champions league because was a knockout competition. in the league, no chance that we can win with this players. no way 

In the cl we beat City while the other teams we beat were good teams but not so great (and RM were undergoing a depression period).
Kai is evidenltly not 100% ok after he was infected by the "O".
Werner and Ziyetch are dedinitely not Chelsea material. If we had them here in Greece perhaps they would make statues of both in the public squares but the level of football is what matters.

[Mário César 823]

besides in the beginning of the season was the defense that give us "hope" to think about winning the league. 

Most of our goals was scored by our defenses... reece james, thiago, rudiger, chilwell... this isn't sustentable.

our attacker players need to produce more and more... look at hazard, costa, drogba, lampard.... players that has "goal". 

[chelsea_4_eva 1,144]

45 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Getting so sick of hearing that excuse. Why are Havertz, Werner, and even bloody Saul never used? Mount is rotated every other game?

 

When i said this, what i meant was the whole squad seems mentally tired like something is off in the dressing room

 

Edited January 19, 2022 by chelsea_4_eva

[cosmicway 1,262]

7 minutes ago, Mário César said:

besides in the beginning of the season was the defense that give us "hope" to think about winning the league. 

Most of our goals was scored by our defenses... reece james, thiago, rudiger, chilwell... this isn't sustentable.

our attacker players need to produce more and more... look at hazard, costa, drogba, lampard.... players that has "goal". 

Chil and James were scoring regularly. It was not chancey like with Christensen and Chalobar when they score sometimes.
Unfortunately we lost both for some time and Alonso-Azpi are not as good.
Then our attackers are locked in a permanent Lampard wall mode and the "weapon" Lukaku is useless without a Cesc around.

Edited January 19, 2022 by cosmicway

[Jase 43,479]

14 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Chil and James were scoring regularly. It was not chancey like with Christensen and Chalobar when they score sometimes.
Unfortunately we lost both for some time and Alonso-Azpi are not as good.

This isn't exactly accurate. Yes, Chilwell and James are important to the way we play as wingbacks but by the time Chilwell got injured, he hadn't scored in 5 games. He had only that purple patch in October where he scored 3 goals in 4 games. Similarly, by the time James got injured, he hadn't scored in 9 games and again, he also had that one purple between late October and November where he scored 4 goals in 6 games. So really, by the time they got injured, their output had dried up (Chilwell had only 1 assist in that 5 games while James also had only 1 assist in that 9 games) and in James, he had also gone off the boil performance wise. They really couldn't sustain their output, something as well that they have not managed consistently in their career so far, compared to say Robertson and TAA at Liverpool. 

[cosmicway 1,262]

12 minutes ago, Jase said:

This isn't exactly accurate. Yes, Chilwell and James are important to the way we play as wingbacks but by the time Chilwell got injured, he hadn't scored in 5 games. He had only that purple patch in October where he scored 3 goals in 4 games. Similarly, by the time James got injured, he hadn't scored in 9 games and again, he also had that one purple between late October and November where he scored 4 goals in 6 games. So really, by the time they got injured, their output had dried up (Chilwell had only 1 assist in that 5 games while James also had only 1 assist in that 9 games) and in James, he had also gone off the boil performance wise. They really couldn't sustain their output, something as well that they have not managed consistently in their career so far, compared to say Robertson and TAA at Liverpool. 

Look we have Ziyech and Alonso who are trying to copy these moves.
Ziyech was lucky yesterday to score one but the rest of the time he was losing the ball or losing control and thus delaying the action.
As for Alonso he does n't have the penetration he used to have.
Other types of move we use can be described as charge of the light brigade.

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Look we have Ziyech and Alonso who are trying to copy these moves.
Ziyech was lucky yesterday to score one but the rest of the time he was losing the ball or losing control and thus delaying the action.
As for Alonso he does n't have the penetration he used to have.
Other types of move we use can be described as charge of the light brigade.

Irrelevant to what I said. 

[cosmicway 1,262]

2 minutes ago, Jase said:

Irrelevant to what I said. 

Ok so you think Chil and James if alive and well today we 'd still have these problems.
It's a point of view.

Edited January 19, 2022 by cosmicway

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, cosmicway said:

Ok so you think Chil and James if alive and well today we 'd still have these problems.
It's a point of view.

Only pointed out the facts. They weren't scoring regularly like you claimed. They scored only in a few games within 3-4 weeks and that was it. Their output then dried up before their injuries. They clearly didn't sustain the form and they don't have a track record of scoring/assisting consistently in their career so far either. 

[cosmicway 1,262]

1 minute ago, Jase said:

Only pointed out the facts. They weren't scoring regularly like you claimed. They scored only in a few games within 3-4 weeks and that was it. Their output then dried up before their injuries. They clearly didn't sustain the form and they don't have a track record of scoring/assisting consistently in their career so far either. 

Chil does. Against Porto last year for ex.

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, cosmicway said:

Chil does. Against Porto last year for ex.

JFC!

[cosmicway 1,262]

11 minutes ago, Jase said:

Irrelevant to what I said. 

 

2 minutes ago, Jase said:

JFC!

Our attack is static.
You thinks Chil and James too were lucky coincidences (to which I do not agree).
Then what is the solution ?

[NikkiCFC 7,607]

 

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

 

When the manager starts to say things like that, then you probably gotta start wondering...

First half was rubbish. No better in second half. And yet, Tuchel waited till the 80th minute and he dared to complain about tiredness after that...

Also, being reactionary against of all teams, Brighton!?

[NikkiCFC 7,607]

3 hours ago, chelsea_4_eva said:

When i said this, what i meant was the whole squad seems mentally tired like something is off in the dressing room

 

One more game and we have a break of two weeks with Plymouth being first game after that. And Al Hilal most likely after that. So give them one week off after Spurs. 

Great moment to rest.