Ben Chilwell

[BlueLyon 9,359]

35 minutes ago, Vesper said:

sorry, not buying it, at all

if this was true, you are talking about only a £8.5m bonus IF Hazard wins the bloody Ballon d'Or

as of what you claim is true, we have collected all but £8.5m of the entire £130m

zero chance that a Ballon d'Or payment (the hardest to get) would be lowest (and not only that, but I am sure there was a CL-winning bonus add-on as well, plus some appearance ones as well, so even less)

so, nope

no way have has Real Madrid paid us 135 million euros already (which is what £121.5m works out to)

that journo is wrong (quelle surprise!)

 

 

Real gets most money if they qualify for CL or win la liga. If Hazard wins balon dor it wont bring Real shitload of caah because its individual award. So its possible its the least valued...

[kellzfresh 7,229]

 

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

Hi lads 
   As a Leicester fan, I wish Chillwell all the best. Having said that, I am surprised that he is so highly rated. Defensively, he is suspect, end of! He is a full back, so firstly, he should be able to defend. The myth that he is good going forward, is just that, a myth! He gallops the middle third of the pitch, in a straight line, then puts his foot on the ball And passes it sideways or backwards. The option is usually a floated cross to nowhere. Opinion is divided,but there is little outpouring of angst at his impending departure. I dont really follow European football, so I know little about his rumoured replacements, but at 20 million leds, I suspect that this could be a good deal for us. 

Hes got good speed, can dribble with the bal however. We agree?

I think he's about as good defensively as Alonso but in different ways. Alonso is better when sitting deep. Chilwell is far better at recovering.

Apart from that there's not too much disagreement. Chilwell seems to exceed at turning defence into attack buts he's nothing to shout about in the final third. Alonso is the opposite (I think Alonso's crossing is average at best as is his passing in and around the box - its his goal threat where he excels). Whereas Alonso annoys the shit out of me in the build up.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

[Vesper 30,083]

11 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Real gets most money if they qualify for CL or win la liga. If Hazard wins balon dor it wont bring Real shitload of caah because its individual award. So its possible its the least valued...

that still is zero proof that they have coughed up €135m

until I see definitive proof, I am simply not buying it at all

a person typing so on a message board does not make it so

I am not the one making the big claim

big claims need big proof

20m euros is more money, or damn near the same in some cases as what we will get for multiple players from sales

it would have been all over the news

just like the RM league win trigger was, or the fake news about Coutinho winning the CL with Bayern meaning Barca have to pay Liverpool €5m , it was a lie being spread by the bullshit British press

[King Kante 1,643]

1 hour ago, Astleyfox said:

Hi lads 
   As a Leicester fan, I wish Chillwell all the best. Having said that, I am surprised that he is so highly rated. Defensively, he is suspect, end of! He is a full back, so firstly, he should be able to defend. The myth that he is good going forward, is just that, a myth! He gallops the middle third of the pitch, in a straight line, then puts his foot on the ball And passes it sideways or backwards. The option is usually a floated cross to nowhere. Opinion is divided,but there is little outpouring of angst at his impending departure. I dont really follow European football, so I know little about his rumoured replacements, but at 20 million leds, I suspect that this could be a good deal for us. 

Yeah, a few of us have watched him quite a lot and been on Foxestalk to see what LCFC fans think. This pretty much sums it up. 

[killer1257 3,282]

sorry, not buying it, at all

if this was true, you are talking about only a £8.5m bonus IF Hazard wins the bloody Ballon d'Or

as of what you claim is true, we have collected all but £8.5m of the entire £130m

zero chance that a Ballon d'Or payment (the hardest to get) would be lowest (and not only that, but I am sure there was a CL-winning bonus add-on as well, plus some appearance ones as well, so even less)

so, nope

no way have has Real Madrid paid us 135 million euros already (which is what £121.5m works out to)

that journo is wrong (quelle surprise!)

 

 

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48548361

 

Real Madrid are paying an initial 100m euros (£89m) for the attacking midfielder, though bonus payments could see Chelsea receive at least another £60m from the sale of the player.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/eden-hazard-transfer-news-fee-real-madrid-chelsea-a8949931.html%3famp

 

Hazard has signed a five-year contract to join Real in a deal that could rise as high as £150million once all bonus payments come into play.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7107899/amp/Real-Madrid-confirm-signing-Eden-Hazard-Chelsea-130m-deal.html

 

Kristof Terreur is in my opinion the most reliable belgium journalist. If he says that we got the 130-135 million from Madrid reaching CL spot and winning La Liga, I believe him when he says that. You might have better sources, I do not. I am only saying what they say, sorry. According to them, rest of the add ons are Real winning CL, winning La Liga and becoming La Liga POTY. And I do not believe Marina is so stupid that we will get the most money from Hazard winning Ballon dor, which gives Real Madrid no money at all and is the leasr likely to ever happen.

 

Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk

 

 

 

[killer1257 3,282]

Yeah, a few of us have watched him quite a lot and been on Foxestalk to see what LCFC fans think. This pretty much sums it up. 

I think@Jason and@Jype should read Leicesters forum. Quite funny and I think most Chelsea fans and Leicester fans agree on Chilwell, which is interesting.


Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk

[King Kante 1,643]

4 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

I think@Jason and@Jype should read Leicesters forum. Quite funny and I think most Chelsea fans and Leicester fans agree on Chilwell, which is interesting.


Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk
 

Yeah, I think from our perspective it is not that Chilwell is a bad player, it is more that he is overpriced and there are a number of other players out there that could do a similar job for a lot less cash. 

[Jase 43,479]

20 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

I think@Jason and@Jype should read Leicesters forum. Quite funny and I think most Chelsea fans and Leicester fans agree on Chilwell, which is interesting.

Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk

Funny thing about this kind of view is that if Milan fans come here and read about Bakayoko, they will see we have said he's shit and all that and be astounded that they are gonna buy him but when he plays for Milan, he actually looks a decent player and not as shit as we've made him out to be, which is interesting. 

At this point, I don't know why people are still moaning endlessly over this deal. It looks a done deal and am just interested to see how he - and the other signings - will do when the season starts.

[Jase 43,479]

21 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Yeah, I think from our perspective it is not that Chilwell is a bad player, it is more that he is overpriced and there are a number of other players out there that could do a similar job for a lot less cash. 

Others may be cheaper but there are different kind of question marks over them.

Also, I can understand people's view over transfer fees but the way some have been going about it here, you would think they are being asked to pay millions from their pocket right now. 

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Stats comparison between Chilwell, Robertson, Tagliafico, Regulion and Mendy. The top performing Left Backs.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

Others may be cheaper but there are different kind of question marks over them.

Also, I can understand people's view over transfer fees but the way some have been going about it here, you would think they are being asked to pay millions from their pocket right now. 

I think this narrative of ‚it’s not your money so why you care about price‘ is short sighted. We care about the club and it’s finances so we don’t  want the Club to buy overpriced players ( which we also find far from outstanding). A deal which could impair the clubs future finances And squad planning even if the deal would be financially doable right now.
You can find something too expensive even if you are not paying yourself just like with any sponsored  purchases. When my employer pays my trainings I don’t automatically pick the most expensive one just because I can cos I know that it might get deducted from my future budget.