Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, lucio said: matic previously performed at a top level for 1.5 seasons. we need to start with those who have never been good for chelsea. (oscar , cahill, pedro), before looking at those who used to be good. Form is temporary, class is permanent. His fall from grace this year has been one of the main reasons we are where we are. He isn't alone though, and you are right Oscar needs to be out. The verdict isn't out on Pedro for me. He showed heart today. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 The fact he was used again when Guus came in says a lot....we fell short in this area because of two things....Matic been completely rubbish and our penny pinching last summer. He wouldn't get in any other team above us. bellion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Simply needs to be shipped in the summer, decent player but just so slow and has an unhealthy habit of not tracking runs. We need more strength, pace and legs in the middle of the park, he's the complete opposite. Miguelito and mccg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan26 293 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 1 hour ago, James said: Simply needs to be shipped in the summer, decent player but just so slow and has an unhealthy habit of not tracking runs. We need more strength, pace and legs in the middle of the park, he's the complete opposite. Not sure if Mikel or Fabregas!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1chelsea 864 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 This one is sold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 13 hours ago, chelseafan26 said: Not sure if Mikel or Fabregas!!! For all of Fabregas' faults and he has many, especially defensively, he still adds something to this team. I really cant say the same about Mikel. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan26 293 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 9 minutes ago, James said: For all of Fabregas' faults and he has many, especially defensively, he still adds something to this team. I really cant say the same about Mikel. The same can be said of mikel adding to the team defensively while having hopelessly glaring attacking deficiencies. My point being, IF you copy and paste everything that you wrote in your first post and post it in the cesc thread, you would be hitting the nail on the head. Dont get me wrong, I am not supporting Mikel here, just that the same reasons that people want mikel to be sold should be applied to others too. Mikel, cesc, pedro,oscar - to name a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 10:40 PM, Henrique said: Lol Not the 1st time I see you using argument of authority quoting whoscored. Mate, who cares about whoscored? Who cares If a stats site gave Mikel 6.2. Mikel was far form great, but he wasn't the worst Chelsea player on the pitch. Football is NOT about stats and this kind of objective numbers. For example, a player like Azpilicueta, in terms of stats, might be doing better than Mikel, but at the end of the day "whoscored" will evaluate his crucial mistake in the same way it evaluates a mistake from Mikel in not dangerous area of the pitch. In a Game that the CF barely touches the ball, he will get a low score, but the problem might be playmakers unable to give him the ball, and that problem you won't see in the stats, and stats won't tell you the difference between a legendary goal and a tap in. The thing is that mikeI is also not that great defensively. His defending numbers don't add up and there are better def midfielders even in smaller sides. Not to mention pacey midfielders just run past him with ease, like KdB did. after the game he had against city I'd expect people to be more upset, but I guess mikeI is just accepted for who he is. btw, not a big fan of Fabregas either, but he belongs to a higher tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Fab and Mikel are similar in terms of mobility, you simply cannot have two such players in the same line-up. You then add Oscar to the equasion, who is completely average, and it's a no-brainer why we suck ass so much in the middle of the park. Last season we had Matic to hold things together. We are severely lacking an Essien in there, this will definitely be fixed next season and I don't believe Mikel will play another full 90 for the club again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 On 04/16/2016 at 9:35 PM, James said: Simply needs to be shipped in the summer, decent player but just so slow and has an unhealthy habit of not tracking runs. We need more strength, pace and legs in the middle of the park, he's the complete opposite. Yeah ffs lets hope alot of the backroom staff go to specsavers this summer,as 1 man and his dog spot could see its a big weakness(plus afew others) the last few seasons at Cfc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 On 16/04/2016 at 7:26 PM, lucio said: Sad that guus would rather rely on this turd ,than get matic back in shape Both as bad as each other and sort of sums up our mediocrity this season. Replace both....Mikel with someone of real high quality and introduce a young lad into the fold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 It's da gawd's birthday today! Long shall the reign of John Obi Mikel continue chelseafan26 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIceMan 596 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Today we say happy birthday to John Mikel Obi! John Obi Mikel at Chelsea: Premier League: FA Cup: League Cup: Champions League: Europa League: Blue Armour, Essien19 and The Skipper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 What I noticed about yesterday's game after recalling which players played (I could only see the 2nd half), I had to conclude that our Mikel Obi played CB. Mikel at CB. Football has peaked. But honestly, that is not even a bad idea. His offensive contribution is minimal anyway whilst his built is perfect for CB. Also he is as composed as anyone and a decent passer. That being said I wonder whether Gus did not simply play Miazga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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