The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 They respect the shirt EVERY TIME they put it on.In a way, I agree with you. For Nigeria, you can see Mikel plays with a lot of heart, maybe because there he has the platform to express himself. At Chelsea though it isn't the same. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachikethas 1,154 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Fantastic point. People have been saying that Luiz's heart is worth more than the prices being banded around for him and that's a great point, yet it's something that even Mikel's staunchest supporters can't really defend.I had doubts about him for much of last season, but that performance away to Rubin Kazan was an absolute disgrace and I think even Bosingwa would've felt shame picking up a paycheque after that game. It's not surprising because he was like that as a 19 year old, but just looking at people like Chalobah, Ake and Lukaku to see the difference in their mentalities. They respect the shirt EVERY TIME they put it on.john terry gives his respect bye stabbing barca player on one of the biggest night for our club. keep posting pics of Chelsea and calling everyone geezer on twitter doesn't only make one a truly passionate. I have seen him performing very good in lot of occasions also performing badly. So do i have seen lamps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachikethas 1,154 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Nothing against luiz but really doubt how many of us will say luiz gives his heart for Chelsea if there is no social media and give performance like against Manu in 2011 at old Trafford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleed_blue 136 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 The apologists are out in full force today.You can keep saying whatever made up stuff you want, come next season, Mourinho is going to relegate him to bench and Choulo19 and co will cry a river. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Well that's because Luiz was showing excellent performances consistently throughout this year and has been by far our best CB while Mikel showed absolutely atrocious performances this year, not mention him talking shite about the Europa League before following that statement up with an absolutely disgraceful display at Kazan.Mikel and Luiz' attitudes are polar opposite. One has heart and gives 110%, despite a lapse in concentration here and there, while the other has a history of being a stroppy cunt.If 10 mil is the best that we can get for him (and it doesn't even appear to be true), then we might as well keep him around for some depth and cover in central midfield.give me quotes. what i remember is him saying it's frustrating to play in Europa League and that he wants to play in CL again. he said he didn't rate it and wanted higher goals.if you want to see the heart from Mikel go and watch that CL campaign a year ago.majority of our fans are like leaves, one bad season and they would throw everything out of the window. Gilvorak, LDN Blue and Clevemayer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Cool 388 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 give me quotes. what i remember is him saying it's frustrating to play in Europa League and that he wants to play in CL again. ​he said he didn't rate it and wanted higher goals.Exactly. He said he didn't rate it. He dismissed it and then he proceeded to get run over by Kazan in that very competition with a shambolic and lazy display. The fact that he was dying to get his mitts on the trophy (ala Bosingwa) when he had fuck all to do with the winning of it was a fucking joke.if you want to see the heart from Mikel go and watch that CL campaign a year ago.Of course he's going to show heart in the CL campaign. Who wouldn't? But I can also give you plenty of games where he trotted around the pitch with no real urgency. That's the problem. He doesn't give it his all in every single match, which is not the type of attitude I want to see from a Chelsea player. You can have all the skill you want, but when you lack the proper mindset, then just forget about it.majority of our fans are like leaves, one bad season and they would throw everything out of the window.No, I am basing my statements on what I have seen from him ever since we signed him in 2006, not just one season. robsblubot and Phil Driver 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 john terry gives his respect bye stabbing barca player on one of the biggest night for our club.keep posting pics of Chelsea and calling everyone geezer on twitter doesn't only make one a truly passionate. I have seen him performing very good in lot of occasions also performing badly. So do i have seen lamps RUBBISH Please do not bring Chelsea legends and world class players into an argument involving Mikel . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Mikel is on his way out ,all will be revealed soon ,Mourinho is not stupid .................................watch this space ,he is a merchant banker ,even the waiter dropped him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Mikel is on his way out ,all will be revealed soon ,Mourinho is not stupid .................................watch this space ,he is a merchant banker ,even the waiter dropped him. Mikel was mostly injured or away under Benitez. It isn't the same. Sure he didn't start all games but he was hardly dropped. All the manager before Rafa used him explicitly. You talk as if Mikel is the worst player in the squad when he clearly isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Mikel was mostly injured or away under Benitez. It isn't the same. Sure he didn't start all games but he was hardly dropped. All the manager before Rafa used him explicitly. You talk as if Mikel is the worst player in the squad when he clearly isn't.Think you should just ignore him TBH. He has been saying the same thing over and over and over again in this thread. Said the same thing to him numerous times already but he chose to ignore it and continue to believe what he wants even when the facts proved otherwise. LDN Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Mikel was mostly injured or away under Benitez. It isn't the same. Sure he didn't start all games but he was hardly dropped. All the manager before Rafa used him explicitly. You talk as if Mikel is the worst player in the squad when he clearly isn't. Not this again ,still in denial ,Mikel was dropped for the Everton game and the Europa Final after poor performances and a poor attitude but was layed in the meaningless friendlies in the USA (suddenly fit again) What will you say when Jose sells him? Because he has not received a phone call from Jose yet telling him he is a valuable player for Chelsea like Ramires . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 You boys will have a lot of egg on your face when you realise Mourinho is looking to get rid of him . watch this space ................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Not this again ,still in denial ,Mikel was dropped for the Everton game and the Europa Final after poor performances and a poor attitude but was layed in the meaningless friendlies in the USA (suddenly fit again)As usual, conveniently disregarding the fact that Mikel was injured before then and only around that friendly that he had probably fully recovered to be able to play a game.What will you say when Jose sells him? Because he has not received a phone call from Jose yet telling him he is a valuable player for Chelsea like Ramires .Riighhhttt. You clearly dismiss the fact one player is on holiday right now and the other is playing in the Confederations Cup... Blue Armour, The Skipper and Rambo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Your excuses for Mikel will all be irrelevant soon ,when you realise Jose wants him out ,as I say ,watch this space and remember where you read it first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Your excuses for Mikel will all be irrelevant soon ,when you realise Jose wants him out ,as I say ,watch this space and remember where you read it first Excuses?! Ha. Comedy.You have made your point extremely clear that you think Mourinho will dump Mikel and sell him because he's rubbish and Jose is a great manager and all that but if I were you right now, I would probably not be blowing the trumpet so loud. Otherwise, you could be the one having an egg face if Mikel is still here come 1st September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 That is what forums are for ,making your point extremely clear and I reserve the right to make my point on a player I rate as poor and not good enough for Chelsea, as is your right to defend him . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 That is what forums are for ,making your point extremely clear and I reserve the right to make my point on a player I rate as poor and not good enough for Chelsea, as is your right to defend him .I agree but think it gets very silly and looks poor on the poster if he or she just basically keep on posting the same old thing like almost every single day. Hardly contributing to the forum in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 21, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted June 21, 2013 With respect to TOPTB, I don't fully grasp this "attitude" problem that you guys say Mikel has. I mean his role at Chelsea is so limited, it's not like he's given the chance to drive up the pitch, race his heart out and go for goal. Ramires is allowed to play that role, and that's why we love him.. He makes runs upon runs and can can produce the most composed of finishes. Last night, Mikel showed he can do that. He showed that passion people say he doesn't play with. Okay, I will admit that his performance against Rubin Kazan wasn't great and it wasn't nice. But I think you guys were also harsh on the Europa League comments.. He shouldn't have said it, because of the perception it gave off. But no-one does rate the Europa League. Sir Alex said, "that is our penalty for not qualifying" when he discussed United's drop into the EL last season. Bir_CFC, didierforever, Kostas and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Not if it helps get rid of said player who is a liability for Chelsea and one who I am sick of watching play ,that is apart from when he is dropped . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Not if it helps get rid of said player who is a liability for Chelsea and one who I am sick of watching play ,that is apart from when he is dropped . How does continuously posting the same thing here everyday helps to get rid of a player you don't like? We all have basically been lambasting Torres for almost 2 years now and he's still here! If you want him out so badly, you should probably just go stage a protest at the Bridge really. It will help you make point even clearer. Let the entire world know about it, not just in TalkChelsea forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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