╫rue Blue 47 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Lamps says all that I'm saying of him, he has brilliant feet, brilliant shielding, superb tackling, great tactical awareness...he for me lacks sometimes commitment, he just has to raise this, track back more and fight more... these two points ar vital for me to give him the attribute, outstanding Worldclass DM...i agree, just if ,he can be more work hard, more determination to fight the ball, he can turn out to be great DMbut without that, in some matches he can be really poor dmand in my opinion, unless we not playing counter attacking football, not seldom our problem with mikel iswhen we attacking, his distribution is not really good , he just make simple pass, although is still good for certain situationbut his pass often too slow, and make the build up play become much slowerit makes, no matter we have a bunch good talent and technicall player on attacking, but if the build up is slowthe same stories is still like the old time, we will hard / really struggle to break the opposition defenceand when we lost the ball , then get counter attacked by opposition ( not just in counter but also when the opponent play good pass combination in our midfield )not a few times we showmikel is the wrong onehe failed to trackback properly and covering the open spacebecause his slow and the movement not really good too, when he need to move faster for covering the position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 This will be a big season for him, sink or swim in some aspect's.Next summer as it stands i think the club will prioritize a defensive midfielder, even more so if Romeu goes back to Barca, it's up to Mikel to prevent it being a Vidal and more a back up/prospect.If he has a stormer this season, i have a feeling the defensive midfield position could be his to keep but i wouldn't have him as a 'spine' player yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 He lacks the attitude at this point. As Clevemayer said he needs to become more aggressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 He should go.He's good on the ball but off the ball he is awful it's not even funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 http://www.eplindex.com/16829/chelsea-forget-john-obi-mikel.htmlAn article with stats on Mikel. DYC., Naked Mole Rat, sleazyB and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajo 176 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Mikel was a decent player for us over the years and I wouldn't write him off. We won't get any better palayer without spending over 20m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 http://www.eplindex....-obi-mikel.htmlAn article with stats on Mikel.easier just to ignore stats and call him shite Badboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Those stats are incredible. He loses the ball once a match and has a 5 in 6 tackle success rate. And he's only been beaten 11 times. maenbolaboling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maenbolaboling 27 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Those stats are incredible. He loses the ball once a match and has a 5 in 6 tackle success rate. And he's only been beaten 11 times.yeah he is greatwe should keep him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,315 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Does a more than adequate job mostly- but no one will ever touch Maka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Niks @ChelseaStatto 15 — John Obi Mikel lost possession only 15 times in the PL last season, i.e. once every 88 minutes. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Embodiment of why he's vital. The link between defence and midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinol 337 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Why does some people want us to get rid of him. If we would sell him we would have to get another DM and the options arent really that many and it would cost us alot. Why not strenghten more important positions insted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 He's a much better player then headless chickens like ''Momo Sissoko'' and ''Scott Parker'' in my opinion. If Mikel constantly ran at opponents at 100 miles per hour people would call him the best thing since slice bread. He's sooo much better technically then Scott Parker its scary and a better holding player overall ! Oh Scott Parker might be better at crashing into opponents giving silly freekicks away ! This response is aimed at Kojo who claimed Scott Parker is better then Mikel in the Kakuta thread ! Spike, zolayes, Kieran. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLionheart 516 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Mikel is the most overrated player by our fans , you can fuck all you want with statistics showing that Mikel is a very good DM , but he isn't , he is simply not even among the best in the EPL , and btw yes Scott Parker is definitely better than Mikel in terms of defensive and offensive contributions.Along the pages i have seen statistics comparing between Mikel and Romeu , where it mentioned that Mikel's passing accuracy is 90% , while Romue was at 81% but Romue's passes where much much more meaningful and effective than all of Mikel' passes.It showed that Mikel had a better successful tackles % but the truth is while Mikel enjoys walking slowly to opponents who usually pass the ball before he reaches them , Romue and the likes of Parker usually harass their oppositions forcing them to make a bad pass or at least a back pass If they didn't get the ball , So basically the case for Mikel is less number of tackles= less number of errors , less no. of forward passes= less no. of misplaced passes ..... etc.Right now , it's pretty obvious that Mikel is our 1st choice DM but for a defensive team that might work , if Di Matteo really wants to play attacking football we can wave Mikel good-bye. Peace., Severinb and Kojo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severinb 309 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Mikel is the most overrated player by our fans , you can fuck all you want with statistics showing that Mikel is a very good DM , but he isn't , he is simply not even among the best in the EPL , and btw yes Scott Parker is definitely better than Mikel in terms of defensive and offensive contributions.Along the pages i have seen statistics comparing between Mikel and Romeu , where it mentioned that Mikel's passing accuracy is 90% , while Romue was at 81% but Romue's passes where much much more meaningful and effective than all of Mikel' passes.It showed that Mikel had a better successful tackles % but the truth is while Mikel enjoys walking slowly to opponents who usually pass the ball before he reaches them , Romue and the likes of Parker usually harass their oppositions forcing them to make a bad pass or at least a back pass If they didn't get the ball , So basically the case for Mikel is less number of tackles= less number of errors , less no. of forward passes= less no. of misplaced passes ..... etc.Right now , it's pretty obvious that Mikel is our 1st choice DM but for a defensive team that might work , if Di Matteo really wants to play attacking football we can wave Mikel good-bye.So true mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Mikel is the most overrated player by our fans , you can fuck all you want with statistics showing that Mikel is a very good DM , but he isn't , he is simply not even among the best in the EPL , and btw yes Scott Parker is definitely better than Mikel in terms of defensive and offensive contributions.Along the pages i have seen statistics comparing between Mikel and Romeu , where it mentioned that Mikel's passing accuracy is 90% , while Romue was at 81% but Romue's passes where much much more meaningful and effective than all of Mikel' passes.It showed that Mikel had a better successful tackles % but the truth is while Mikel enjoys walking slowly to opponents who usually pass the ball before he reaches them , Romue and the likes of Parker usually harass their oppositions forcing them to make a bad pass or at least a back pass If they didn't get the ball , So basically the case for Mikel is less number of tackles= less number of errors , less no. of forward passes= less no. of misplaced passes ..... etc.Right now , it's pretty obvious that Mikel is our 1st choice DM but for a defensive team that might work , if Di Matteo really wants to play attacking football we can wave Mikel good-bye.yes ignore statistics and use your HIGHLY SUBJECTIVE opinion as fact ... No thanks I will take the fact that he has been used byall our managers including JM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtowle182 79 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 His performance in the CL final was sublime though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Mikel is the most overrated player by our fans , you can fuck all you want with statistics showing that Mikel is a very good DM , but he isn't , he is simply not even among the best in the EPL , and btw yes Scott Parker is definitely better than Mikel in terms of defensive and offensive contributions.If anything Mikel's the most UNDERRATED player on the Chelsea roster. sleazyB, Badboy, Severinb and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 2, 2012 Popular Post! Share Posted August 2, 2012 Mikel is the most overrated player by our fans , you can fuck all you want with statistics showing that Mikel is a very good DM , Stats actually don't show that Mikel is that superior, hardly anyone uses stats to depict how good Mikel is. People use their own opinion. It's not a surprise that Mikel has continued to be a mainstay in midfield regardless of what manager we've had. Are you saying that all of these world class manager couldn't see that Mikel is shit? Exactly. Mikel is the metronome of the team, the link between defence and midfield. He isn't flashy, and that's why many people don't appreciate what he actually does for the team. Along the pages i have seen statistics comparing between Mikel and Romeu , where it mentioned that Mikel's passing accuracy is 90% , while Romue was at 81% but Romue's passes where much much more meaningful and effective than all of Mikel' passes.Have you ever sat and considered to think that maybe the managers instruct Mikel to hold up play? To hold on to the ball whilst the team organises itself? To be the outlet of the team when there are no options in attack? There are so many misconceptions about Mikel. It showed that Mikel had a better successful tackles % but the truth is while Mikel enjoys walking slowly to opponents who usually pass the ball before he reaches them Romue and the likes of Parker usually harass their oppositions forcing them to make a bad pass or at least a back pass If they didn't get the ball ,Bingo. That exactly explains the general misconception about Mikel. People expect him to be the classic, run-around-closing-down-like-a-headless-chicken ball winning DM. That's not his role. Surely by now people should know that Mikel is in the team as a shield to the back four, an outlet to the midfield and defence, someone who is essential in keeping the shape of the side and the third centreback. What I mean about Mikel being the third centre back is that he allows the likes of Ashley Cole, Bosingwa (seasons he was here with us), Ivanovic etc. to bomb forward. Has no one noticed that when these bomb forward, Mikel drops back in between the two CB? It provides cover for the team, an extra body against a potential counter attacks, and again, an outlet to the team when we win the ball back in defence. Mikel is vital in keeping the team ticking. Again, it's not a coincidence he kept getting picked by every manager we've had. Right now , it's pretty obvious that Mikel is our 1st choice DM but for a defensive team that might work , if Di Matteo really wants to play attacking football we can wave Mikel good-bye.Right. So, Bayern Munich in a CL final, renowned for their attacking football, had a player like Tiote or Parker in their XI right? Barcelona, Man City, Man Utd all have players like them two starting week in week out do they? The fact is, many here think there's only one way to play the DM role. There's many different types, and many are confusing your TRADITIONAL ball winning DM with Mikel's role, which points more towards him being the holding man in our midfield. None in the CFC squad are better than Mikel at the holding role. Few are in the PL. Mikel's strengths consists of good concentration, accurate passing, good anticipation, ball retention and composure. All which are essential attributes for the holding role. Why haven't we been linked with a DM this season? Because there are no problems in that department. And our board and managerial staff clearly, and gladly see that. If Mikel was suspended for that CL final, we would've lost. That's my honest opinion, and that's how highly I rate him.Mikel is vital to our future style of play, not a ball winning DM who runs around closing down opposition players. That would cause us to lose our shape, become more suspect to a counter attack, and lose the safe haven of knowing there's always an option to pass back to if things don't work out in attack.Sorry for the essay but it really grinds my gears when people speak about Mikel like he's some sort of irrelevant League 2 footballer.Besides, we've already a player who can adapt to that ball winning midfielder role in our squad - Ramires. zolayes, Badboy, Jype and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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