silkycuts 19 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 It's idiotic to want to let our 34 year old striker stay and sell our $50 MILLION Striker after just a year and a half.hear hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Styles 9,790 Posted May 14, 2012 Popular Post! Share Posted May 14, 2012 It's idiotic to want to let our 34 year old striker stay and sell our $50 MILLION Striker after just a year and a half.Who cares how much he cost? He wasn't worth 50m and hasn't played like a 50m player once during his time as a Chelsea player.Torres at this point is nothing more than a back-up player to use off the bench. If we try to build the team around him then we might as well give up any hope of winning something for the forseeable future.Torres is a nice guy and all that jazz but he's a rubbish player. It's that simple. LDN Blue, Tomo, capriccioso and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Rubbish is a bit harsh, but the general essence of your post is true. He's not played well enough to warrant a complete change of structure. What if he's still not what we paid for after all that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Who cares how much he cost? He wasn't worth 50m and hasn't played like a 50m player once during his time as a Chelsea player.Torres at this point is nothing more than a back-up player to use off the bench. If we try to build the team around him then we might as well give up any hope of winning something for the forseeable future.Torres is a nice guy and all that jazz but he's a rubbish player. It's that simple.I wouldn't go as far as saying that he's a rubbish player. He used to be world-class...Building our team around Torres is a risk...it should be interesting to see who gets the chance at CF if Torres flops again next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I think we'd be better served keeping our current structure and counting on Lukaku and Sturridge to step up. Fernando can be slowly phased out of the team, perhaps being sold next summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Who cares how much he cost? He wasn't worth 50m and hasn't played like a 50m player once during his time as a Chelsea player.Torres at this point is nothing more than a back-up player to use off the bench. If we try to build the team around him then we might as well give up any hope of winning something for the forseeable future.Torres is a nice guy and all that jazz but he's a rubbish player. It's that simple.Only thing i agree with in this post, is the part about winning trophies.Even at his best, his clubs never won anything at club level, so he's not exactly one (imo) you can bank on to lead us to trophies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 There are things about Torres that annoy the hell out of me. He seems so mentally fragile and physically weak and is easily bullied on the pitch. He comes across like such a big coward sometimes in all honesty. He doesn't have that fire in him. Sorry but I don't want that kind of player leading our line for a month let alone a whole season. He can be a squad player or whatever.Di Matteo knows and a 50m unused substitute in the FA Cup Final says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 There are things about Torres that annoy the hell out of me. He seems so mentally fragile and physically weak and is easily bullied on the pitch. He comes across like such a big coward sometimes in all honesty. He doesn't have that fire in him. Sorry but I don't want that kind of player leading our line for a month let alone a whole season. He can be a squad player or whatever.Di Matteo knows and a 50m unused substitute in the FA Cup Final says it all.He comes across as a really quiet and introverted guy, so it's no suprise he isn't aggressive on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 He comes across as a really quiet and introverted guy, so it's no suprise he isn't aggressive on the pitch.And after 8 years of the big alpha Drog then you can see why I'm not a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 There are things about Torres that annoy the hell out of me. He seems so mentally fragile and physically weak and is easily bullied on the pitch. He comes across like such a big coward sometimes in all honesty. He doesn't have that fire in him. Sorry but I don't want that kind of player leading our line for a month let alone a whole season. He can be a squad player or whatever.Di Matteo knows and a 50m unused substitute in the FA Cup Final says it all.Your right he is not playing as a 50m player for Chelsea but he was for Liverpool.The arrival of Torres has made everyone realize that we really aren't a passing team and now suddenly we crave for this style because our original methods have not rewarded us with results.Torres is no Drogba,in fact there aren't may strikers in this world who can play like him.Like I've said many times,Drogba does not rely fully on his midfielders,he creates his own chances and fights for the ball.In contrast,Torres plays his best when someone provides him those slick through balls.Now if we play like a good passing team,then it wont matter what kind of striker we have.Goals will come easily and in return we'll be able to be serious title contenders.So Chelsea aren't bringing in creative players just so Torres could reclaim his top form,its because they want the team to play better football. Ezio and nofreakingway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Please Didier, just take the one year deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Time to let go and move on people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Next year's Champions League final is at Wembley. If we make it there and Drogba is still on our books, we will be the first team in 24 years to go back-to-back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Your right he is not playing as a 50m player for Chelsea but he was for Liverpool.The arrival of Torres has made everyone realize that we really aren't a passing team and now suddenly we crave for this style because our original methods have not rewarded us with results.Torres is no Drogba,in fact there aren't may strikers in this world who can play like him.Like I've said many times,Drogba does not rely fully on his midfielders,he creates his own chances and fights for the ball.In contrast,Torres plays his best when someone provides him those slick through balls.Now if we play like a good passing team,then it wont matter what kind of striker we have.Goals will come easily and in return we'll be able to be serious title contenders.So Chelsea aren't bringing in creative players just so Torres could reclaim his top form,its because they want the team to play better football.Ok so you complain about the service for Torres...did you ever complain about the service for Drogba? How come we didn't try to find better passers for Drogba? Drogba still got the job done regardless of whether he was assisted or he had to make something out of nothing.It looks like you're saying conditions have to be absolutely perfect for Torres to produce otherwise he's useless. Is that the guy we really want to build around? Shak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Ok so you complain about the service for Torres...did you ever complain about the service for Drogba? How come we didn't try to find better passers for Drogba? Drogba still got the job done regardless of whether he was assisted or he had to make something out of nothing.It looks like you're saying conditions have to be absolutely perfect for Torres to produce otherwise he's useless. Is that the guy we really want to build around?I guess you didn't understand what I was trying to convey.Since Drogba capitalized with or without service,we didn't think complain much about the midfield but now we have a different kind of striker.If we change our style then I am sure our strikers will score plenty.If Drogba managed to score so many goals with few assists,imagine what he could be capable of with a flow of assists from his wingers and midfielders.Torres would benefit as well,as he is accustomed to that kind of style,like many strikers.Drogba is an exception because he's a unique striker and no one will ever be able to emulate him.The new change in style will not only help Torres but other strikers as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 That's the luxury of having a good targetman up front. They make up for any deficiencies in the middle of the park.The thing with Chelsea, is that whoever plays up front has to work hard to create chances for others as well.I didn't see today's game live to judge Lukaku's performance, but from the highlights, the cross he delivered to JT suggests there's another side to his game. Will he be able to truly emulate Drogba? I don't know for sure, but the signs show he can step up to the task. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 There are things about Torres that annoy the hell out of me. He seems so mentally fragile and physically weak and is easily bullied on the pitch. He comes across like such a big coward sometimes in all honesty. He doesn't have that fire in him. Sorry but I don't want that kind of player leading our line for a month let alone a whole season. He can be a squad player or whatever.Di Matteo knows and a 50m unused substitute in the FA Cup Final says it all.In fairness to Torres, off the ball he's not as cowardly as he is on it. He'll track back and put in a hell of a tackle often to win the ball back. But you are right, on the ball it's very easy to push him off, only when he's running full pace down the wing does he manage to beat the defenders, but more often than not there's no final delivery (I'm not forgetting the cross to Mata v. United either)I agree about squad-player role because no-one will take him now. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 In fairness to Torres, off the ball he's not as cowardly as he is on it. He'll track back and put in a hell of a tackle often to win the ball back. But you are right, on the ball it's very easy to push him off, only when he's running full pace down the wing does he manage to beat the defenders, but more often than not there's no final delivery (I'm not forgetting the cross to Mata v. United either)I agree about squad-player role because no-one will take him now.Exactly. If he stays it's not because the club are trying to build around him. It's because nobody else in world football is stupid enough to pay him 200k a week for an 11 goal season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Blackburn game shows why he should leave after Munich (hopefully in a blaze of glory).He is just not motivated for the "lesser" games any more and we will drop more points to Fulham and the likes if he stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teignman 441 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Blackburn game shows why he should leave after Munich (hopefully in a blaze of glory).He is just not motivated for the "lesser" games any more and we will drop more points to Fulham and the likes if he stays.I agree to an extent about the motivation, but also want to add that at 34 years of age, I don't think he has it in him physically to consistently put in the efforts and performances we've grown to know and love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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