closed Spurs 1-0 Chelsea

[kellzfresh 7,229]

14 hours ago, Jason said:

 

This is my only problem with Sarri's system. We are allergic to the 18 box, players dont surge in there and we dont deliver balls into the area when many players finally do. Compared to Mancity where Aguero, Sterling, Silva and Debruyne all enter the box at the same time waiting for a Sane cross. We almost always have just 2 players in the box instead of 4...

[Fulham Broadway 16,862]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

The Bundesliga is great at VAR. Superb even. American football too, BUT they have downs so it isn't continuous play.

Will ultimately ruin football.. we will lose the immediacy of the thrill of a goal being scored, dodgy challenge etc..turning into American Football.

[cosmicway 1,326]

12 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Will ultimately ruin football.. we will lose the immediacy of the thrill of a goal being scored, dodgy challenge etc..turning into American Football.

Water polo was always being refereed like that.
But yesterday the VAR officials were cretins.

 

[Johnnyeye 7,441]

36 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Bl**dy circus clowns !
 

 

despicable players

[mccg 1,528]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

The Bundesliga is great at VAR. Superb even. American football too, BUT they have downs so it isn't continuous play.

Still in 2019 watch teams the time they take throw ins or the time keepers fluff around with the ball that mounts up to alot of non continuous play , think every man and his dog wouldnt mind 2mins for var to get a major decision correct... lol . Yeah can't believe this is the major talking point of the game... darth Vadar would be more use.

[cosmicway 1,326]

The biggest refereeing con in the days before var:
Watch what happens. The no 2 standing next to the post handles. But it appears the ref has blue players infront of him and the 4th ref behind the goalmouth also has his view obstructed by the post,
If that is not outrageous enough, the tv shows two (2) replays while the two refs were still conferring.
The tv crewe -known for their bias in favour of the red team- admit of course it's a penalty and a sending off.
But after the end of the replays we see the ref giving a corner kick - no pen !
The match was a cup final - 2 million viewers.
A similar thing happened during Concacaf 2015 when Peru scored a handball against Brazil. The only difference was that the Americans did not broadcast the replays while the refs were in conference.
But they showed them afterwards.
The refs had no right to call the tv studio for advice in both cases.
 

 

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

15 hours ago, Jason said:

 

This is echoed in this article:  https://statsbomb.com/2019/01/chelsea-and-the-challenge-of-sarriball/

The problem isn’t that Chelsea don’t create scoring opportunities. In both the loss and the draw, they more than their season average of 15.81 shots, an average which is itself the second highest in the league. The problem is that so few of those shots are good. Their xG per shot of 0.10 is exceedingly average. Only nine teams take worse quality shots on average than Chelsea do. The combination of high volume attack and average quality makes for the third best attack in the league by expected goals, clocking in at 1.51 per game.

We are currently taking high volume, low quality shots.  Our xG looks good because it all adds up, but we need to find ways to fashion better chances.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,892]

8 hours ago, eemanyooel said:

Lol...

Even if Pulisic doesn't end up coming here...that means he has a terrible football future if he can't play better than willian... Willian is terrible...

Then you agree that merely being better than Willian is not enough. We need players who match the profile of the footballers we need, not ones who are simply less bad than those we have now.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

31 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

This is echoed in this article:  https://statsbomb.com/2019/01/chelsea-and-the-challenge-of-sarriball/

The problem isn’t that Chelsea don’t create scoring opportunities. In both the loss and the draw, they more than their season average of 15.81 shots, an average which is itself the second highest in the league. The problem is that so few of those shots are good. Their xG per shot of 0.10 is exceedingly average. Only nine teams take worse quality shots on average than Chelsea do. The combination of high volume attack and average quality makes for the third best attack in the league by expected goals, clocking in at 1.51 per game.

We are currently taking high volume, low quality shots.  Our xG looks good because it all adds up, but we need to find ways to fashion better chances.

We don't get enough players into the box when we attack, we don't do enough cut backs or low crosses. Thats why we take low quality shots. We need to get CHO, Hazard, Willian and Barkley into the box, we always stay outside the box and end up playing like a Louis Van Gaal team.

[mccg 1,528]

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[Miguelito 459]

There is no such thing as separation between a referee's and linesman's decision in a game. The referee actually makes the decision in all cases with the help of his assistants. 
The linesman's vision was covered by Kane, he could not see that Azpilicueta was actually playing Kane on. 
Do you think I'd rather trust a totally subjective Chelsea board ( or laptop for that matter ) rather than an actual decision made by refereeing specialists in an independent box based on multiple replays ( and the actual clear picture we have on our hands here ? ). 
We're just turning into Arsenal ( and spurs for that matter ) with these lame excuses and "we played better" narrative. 
Totally not Chels values. 
Really not interested in the weed, gas lighting and whatnot discussions, seems like we can't have an objective discussion on the internet anymore without this sort of silly comments ( even worse coming from an actual moderator ). 

Come on man, what's so hard to understand about the fact that the shaded region in the picture you showed (and they showed on tv) tells us that Kane's feet were onside. Nobody is disagreeing with that. But his feet are BARELY onside. And he is leaning forward, meaning his head and shoulder especially are beyond his feet. Meaning that it's very likely those parts of his body are off since his feet were barely on.

It's clear those images do not take that in to account. If they are making offside decisions based only on where their feet are, they are wrong. Plain and simple.

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[communicate 2,703]

4 hours ago, Adnane said:

There is no such thing as separation between a referee's and linesman's decision in a game. The referee actually makes the decision in all cases with the help of his assistants. 

The linesman's vision was covered by Kane, he could not see that Azpilicueta was actually playing Kane on. 

 

We all know that final decision is on ref hand. But this situation happen in a game tons of times. It was simple long ball. The moment the linesman wave his flag. It was offside. If by waving his flag, it is not offside then what is the point of having linesman doing offside check. Let's just forget it and let VAR do the offside. 

That is why in WC, linesman was instructed to lower their flag in close offside situation. It is to prevent this situation . It was simply a botched VAR application. 

 

[cosmicway 1,326]

2 hours ago, kellzfresh said:

We don't get enough players into the box when we attack, we don't do enough cut backs or low crosses. Thats why we take low quality shots. We need to get CHO, Hazard, Willian and Barkley into the box, we always stay outside the box and end up playing like a Louis Van Gaal team.

Yesterday we produced fnal efforts, albeit some were very poor like the shot attempts by Barkley and Jorginho that sent the ball sky high.
The reason I feel we can't be seen to effect inside the box is because our midfielders are taking it easy and always look for the easy pass. But if they run the opposition, then they can pull defenders out and make things hot up front.
The passing game is good but you need to have 3-4 Eden Hazards up front to dance through the eye of the needle (like Barca does in the shape of Messi - Iniesta - Suarez).

[Fulham Broadway 16,862]

Clattenburg has now said he got it wrong and rewatching VAR Kane was definitely offside

Fat lot of good it does now

[communicate 2,703]

12 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Clattenburg has now said he got it wrong and rewatching VAR Kane was definitely offside

Fat lot of good it does now

We are simply unlucky.

VAR itself is new and the implementation in England is also very new. It will take time for everyone to get used to it. 

We still have 2nd leg to play for

[Fulham Broadway 16,862]

16 minutes ago, communicate said:

We are simply unlucky.

VAR itself is new and the implementation in England is also very new. It will take time for everyone to get used to it. 

Well if it comes down to luck they could just toss a coin. 

Hopefully it will get better, but will still destroy atmospheres in grounds, the spontaneity of a celebration 

I hope there will be VAR at the bridge for the 2nd leg, as you'd expect us to be doing most of the attacking at home, whilst chasing a 1-0 deficit.

Hopefully the players will be fired right up for it.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6578819/VAR-row-referee-Chris-Kavanagh-charge-Chelsea-weekend-against-Newcastle.html

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[Vesper 28,856]

1 minute ago, xPetrCechx said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6578819/VAR-row-referee-Chris-Kavanagh-charge-Chelsea-weekend-against-Newcastle.html

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Fuck that twat. Closest to a whistle that cunt should get is