Dan Lee 47 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 He should have started, not from benchย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 People talking as if Tuchel got his selection wrong to begin with. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Think either way, whatever your opinion was aboutย him startingย or him coming off the bench, we still created 6 clear cut chances.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Think either way, whatever your opinion was aboutย him startingย or him coming off the bench, we still created 6 clear cut chances.ย I just don't get it. Wasn't tonight perfect in terms of the selection or what we want to see in general? The starting XI that Tuchel put out did the job and were brilliant and the subs who came on - specifically Pulisic - also did the same and had an impact. And the lack of sub impact last week in Madrid was probably also a reason why Tuchel went with the starting XI that he did.ย OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Was impressed how he stayed composed and picked the right pass when it looked like the opporunity was gone.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) hace 17 minutos, Jas dijo: I just don't get it. Wasn't tonight perfect in terms of the selection or what we want to see in general? The starting XI that Tuchel put out did the job and were brilliant and the subs who came on - specifically Pulisic - also did the same and had an impact. And the lack of sub impact last week in Madrid was probably also a reason why Tuchel went with the starting XI that he did.ย We debating it prior to the game after Fulham regarding would he go with Kai or Werner butย he played both from the start and ultimately, if we hadย put the ball in the net for the second goal or for a potentialย third goal or maybe even a fourth goalย much earlier when we had the chances,ย people would of been praising theย selection. Plus I think the effect Pulisic had from the bench was helped by Madrid being a bit weathered, he was fresh legs, theyโd just spent however long chasing Werner running in behind him. So either way if it was Pulisic or Werner coming in I think theyโd of both had the same effectย personally in the way that theyโd have affected theย game. Both are different players but both have real pace and either way Ramos, Militao, Nacho wouldn't of wanted to see another fast player coming in regardless of who it was. As youโve said you want the players to start to make an impact, as well as the players coming from the bench if its required. Thats the sign of a strongย squad. Even Azpi at RWB and Christensen on the right of the three with Silva and Ruidger. I meanย what did Hazard do? Or Farlan Mendy? Not one selection of the teamย he made tonight played out badly. People complained v West Ham having Azpi at RWB. And also that we played 3 CBs and Azpi at RWB in the first leg.ย Edited May 5, 2021 by OneMoSalah Jase 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 32 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: We debating it prior to the game after Fulham regarding would he go with Kai or Werner butย he played both from the start and ultimately, if we hadย put the ball in the net for the second goal or for a potentialย third goal or maybe even a fourth goalย much earlier when we had the chances,ย people would of been praising theย selection. The whole thing with Havertz v Werner was more down to the finishing of the latter more than anything else, I think, but turned out he wasn't the problem tonight!ย We know what Werner offers to the team in terms of his pace and movement and there is a reason why Tuchel has consistently selected him, especially in the big games. Have seen people said Pulisic can also do the same things which is funny when they are different players. Sure, Pulisic can make runs in behind and all that but he's still someone who prefers the ball to his feet and dribble past players while Werner is someone more comfortable making off the ball runs, stretching defences, getting in behind etc and in turn, create space for the other attackers or midfielders to cause damage between the lines. Such selection also makes sense if we are going to play on the break and/or be more direct with our attacks.ย 37 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Plus I think the effect Pulisic had from the bench was helped by Madrid being a bit weathered, he was fresh legs, theyโd just spent however long chasing Werner running in behind him. So either way if it was Pulisic or Werner coming in I think theyโd of both had the same effectย personally in the way that theyโd have affected theย game. Both are different players but both have real pace and either way Ramos, Militao, Nacho wouldn't of wanted to see another fast player coming in regardless of who it was. As youโve said you want the players to start to make an impact, as well as the players coming from the bench if its required. Thats the sign of a strongย squad. Think the conundrum for Tuchel is not all our attackers are great coming off the bench, at least based on what we've seen this season. Can't remember Ziyech, Havertz, Werner having any meaningful impact on games from the bench. Pulisic hasn't had many or any until tonight and given Tuchel also knew him from their time at Dortmund, he probably thinks Pulisic is the best oneย coming off the bench to make an impact, even more so if we have to chase the game.ย OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jas said: The whole thing with Havertz v Werner was more down to the finishing of the latter more than anything else, I think, but turned out he wasn't the problem tonight!ย We know what Werner offers to the team in terms of his pace and movement and there is a reason why Tuchel has consistently selected him, especially in the big games. Have seen people said Pulisic can also do the same things which is funny when they are different players. Sure, Pulisic can make runs in behind and all that but he's still someone who prefers the ball to his feet and dribble past players while Werner is someone more comfortable making off the ball runs, stretching defences, getting in behind etc and in turn, create space for the other attackers or midfielders to cause damage between the lines. Such selection also makes sense if we are going to play on the break and/or be more direct with our attacks.ย Think the conundrum for Tuchel is not all our attackers are great coming off the bench, at least based on what we've seen this season. Can't remember Ziyech, Havertz, Werner having any meaningful impact on games from the bench. Pulisic hasn't had many or any until tonight and given Tuchel also knew him from their time at Dortmund, he probably thinks Pulisic is the best oneย coming off the bench to make an impact, even more so if we have to chase the game.ย Pulisic is brilliant from the bench. we saw this today, vs City in the fa cup and also a lot last season. Ziyech, Tammy and Havertz were absolutey whack coming off the bench the last few times i remember. Giroud was useful a couple of times tho. Emerson, too. The only ones i can thinko f who made an attacking impact besides pulisic coming off the bench. Edited May 5, 2021 by Magic Lamps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Pulisic is brilliant from the bench. we saw this today, vs City in the fa cup and also a lot last season. Ziyech, Tammy and Havertz were absolutey whack coming off the bench the last few times i remember. Giroud was useful a couple of times tho. Emerson, too. The only ones i can thinko f who made an attacking impact besides pulisic coming off the bench. IMO, today was the first good game Pulisic has had off the bench this season. Last season there were the Ajax and Newcastle games. But otherwise, he started most of the games whenever he was fit. Giroud has also been used to waste time as a sub under Tuchel and the same can probably be said of Emerson.ย Tuchel knowing Pulisic can make an impact off the bench is probably not going to help his starting cause in certain games, I think, especially if the others aren't going to have that sub impact.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vytis33 1,270 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said: Was impressed how he stayed composed and picked the right pass when it looked like the opporunity was gone.ย This for sure.ย Said the same thing great patience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jas said: IMO, today was the first good game Pulisic has had off the bench this season. Oh, come on. What should player do for you in 20 mins?ย Krasnodar, Porto first leg, Atletico second leg, tonight, Burnley, City in Cup. All great games from the bench.ย Last season apart from Newcastle and Ajax there were games against Liverpool, Aston Villa, Southampton...ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Oh, come on. What should player do for you in 20 mins?ย Krasnodar, Porto first leg, Atletico second leg, tonight, Burnley, City in Cup. All great games from the bench.ย Last season apart from Newcastle and Ajax there were games against Liverpool, Aston Villa, Southampton...ย Great games from the bench? Thought he was only so-so in those games and if you measure the other gamesย against tonight, then those other games werenโt great at all. Forgot about Liverpool and Villa last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Lee 47 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 ย Look to see how Real players attacked him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 ย MetsajCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Milan said: ย Wow, what a humble and likeable guy. 22 years old! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Was seen limping during and after the match. Probably out for the season with our luck. Dirty arse scum kicked him all nightย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 So err, can we talk about Pulisic? Is the real Pulisic gonna turn up in the Champions League next week? I know he's not our only inconsistent attacker right now but what exactly is going on with him? Just about a month ago, he looked like he was getting back to the form he showed last season but apart from the Real Madrid games, everything just went up in smoke and he has been largely ineffective in a lot of the recent games. He's not taking players on, he's not playing with the same self swagger and decisiveness that he displayed last season. I sometimesย wonder whether his individualistic style of play can feel at odd with the rest of the team. Also, I notice that Pulisic gets similar treatment to Mount. When he plays and plays poorly, no one really says anything (compared to others) but when he doesn't play, people will be complaining that he should have started etc and then you have the American fans as well as the media making a fuss over his selection from across the pond.ย Vybz Kartel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Jas said: So err, can we talk about Pulisic? Is the real Pulisic gonna turn up in the Champions League next week? I know he's not our only inconsistent attacker right now but what exactly is going on with him? Just about a month ago, he looked like he was getting back to the form he showed last season but apart from the Real Madrid games, everything just went up in smoke and he has been largely ineffective in a lot of the recent games. He's not taking players on, he's not playing with the same self swagger and decisiveness that he displayed last season. I sometimesย wonder whether his individualistic style of play can feel at odd with the rest of the team. Also, I notice that Pulisic gets similar treatment to Mount. When he plays and plays poorly, no one really says anything (compared to others) but when he doesn't play, people will be complaining that he should have started etc and then you have the American fans as well as the media making a fuss over his selection from across the pond.ย He is better off the bench when teams have tired legs, lets hope he does not start on Saturday.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 He made assist today unlike all others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: He made assist today unlike all others. Nice. His 4th assist all season. Something you constantly destroy Mount on yet he isn't even an attacking midfielder.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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