Jase 43,479 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: I hope this is why but probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) Cannot decide which one is more further from the truth: Jorginho is bad defensively or he passes only back and side passes? Edited August 17, 2021 by NikkiCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 ok 😉 >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) Bad move by Jorgy, Messi deserves nothing based on last season, many others were better Edited August 19, 2021 by Atomiswave Warning_Hazard and robsblubot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi1691 255 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 37 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: Bad move by Jorgy, Messi deserves nothing based on last season, many others were better Messi is still objectively the best player in the world. he carried Barca last season, and he carried Argentina during the Copa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, kiwi1691 said: Messi is still objectively the best player in the world. he carried Barca last season, and he carried Argentina during the Copa. He did nothing the likes of Kante and Jorgy didnt do for theirs....the era of CR and Messi is close to spent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 But Messi had terrible season with Barca. Plus made unpopular move to PSG. After today's nominations Jorginho should be favourite. KDB and Kante did nothing with national teams. Plus KDB lost CL final. Messi nothing with Barca and won 2nd tier competition Copa America. These 4 players are only candidates after today's nominations. If it's only UEFA Jorginho is easy winner but Ballon d'Or is FIFA? I am afraid worldwide Messi has to much support and will get it in the end which means Jorginho will be robbed. Also Kante and Jorginho being nominated means we have best possible pivot in the world. We cannot upgrade this position even if we want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi1691 255 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: But Messi had terrible season with Barca. Plus made unpopular move to PSG. He was the highest scorer in La liga. Another season where is brilliant performances were let down by his teammates woeful performances. I guess if is Messi's fault if he creates a boatload of chances for his teammates and they fail to convert them, or it do you blame a creative player like Messi when the rest of the team can't defend. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Are people forgetting Ballon d’Or is an individual award? Messi, the best players in the world, still, single handedly carried one of the worst Barcelona teams in recent seasons under an average manager. As well as carrying Argentina basically. It is his to lose. On 19/08/2021 at 20:22, Atomiswave said: He did nothing the likes of Kante and Jorgy didnt do for theirs....the era of CR and Messi is close to spent Whilst both impressed and played huge roles under Tuchel to think they will win Ballon d’Or is incredibly optimistic. It would be like saying Mikel or Drogba should of won Ballon d’Or in 2012. The obsession with stats - particularly goals and assists - in world football at present and considering the fact nobody has even mentioned Lewandowski who again, had another outstanding year or Cristiano Ronaldo, who also got 30+ goals again for Juventus, make it very improbable that either will win it. On 19/08/2021 at 20:35, NikkiCFC said: But Messi had terrible season with Barca. Plus made unpopular move to PSG. ”Messi had terrible season” what sort of class A drugs are you on? Jesus. Stopped reading after that. When is 38 goals and 14 assists in 47 games at club level a terrible season? When its an individualist award too? Dont be so silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: ”Messi had terrible season” what sort of class A drugs are you on? Jesus. Stopped reading after that. When is 38 goals and 14 assists in 47 games at club level a terrible season? When its an individualist award too? Dont be so silly. Speaking of putting words in someone mouth. You quoted that part but left 'with Barca'. We all know I meant about Barca results. We also know that team/NT success play major part for these awards. Messi just played last 16 of CL and finished 3rd in LaLiga. And this is why he finished 4th after Jorginho, Kante and KDB for UEFA voting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said: Speaking of putting words in someone mouth. You quoted that part but left 'with Barca'. We all know I meant about Barca results. We also know that team/NT success play major part for these awards. Messi just played last 16 of CL and finished 3rd in LaLiga. And this is why he finished 4th after Jorginho, Kante and KDB for UEFA voting. UEFA voting is based on the CL performances though no? So why would he best 3 players who made the final and 2 who won it for UEFA awards? Where as Ballon d’Or is based off the whole year for individual players. So there is Only one clear winner. Messi. If it is any of Kante or Jorginho fair play but I still imagine the usuals will be in the running and will make up the top 3. Edited August 21, 2021 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, milka said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 This is even more ridiculous than when Beatrix von Storch Eh I mean Modric received it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,274 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 ahah jorginho ballon dor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 If it's only CL I agree Kante should get it. But this is UEFA so I think EURO is counted as well so yes, Jorginho, absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,713 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Messi carry Barca and Argentina? Narratives like this are ridiculous. Always on the most stacked teams and excuses are made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warning_Hazard 156 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Hes only gone and won player of the year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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