Olivier Giroud

[Jase 43,479]

Here we go with the Giroud rumors again...

 

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

3 hours ago, Jason said:

Here we go with the Giroud rumors again...

 

Deschamps should become Girouds agent if he is so keen on brokering moves for him. Incredible. Never seen a manager so repeatedly and brazenly ramble about other clubs transfer business. 

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Hutcho 8,443]

If he wants to go play more regularly then let him go play more regularly. He's still great and in another situation he'd be leading our line but he isn't gonna get the minutes he wants with the competition we have and whilst he's probably the best 3rd choice striker in the league by a million miles it's understandable why he doesn't get loads of games for us given our current situation. Now if any injuries happen between now and then, then of course that would change things.

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

5 minutes ago, Hutcho said:

If he wants to go play more regularly then let him go play more regularly. He's still great and in another situation he'd be leading our line but he isn't gonna get the minutes he wants with the competition we have and whilst he's probably the best 3rd choice striker in the league by a million miles it's understandable why he doesn't get loads of games for us given our current situation. Now if any injuries happen between now and then, then of course that would change things.

Most injuries will come at the business end of the season after the accumulation of fixtures. That is when we will need him. I think it would be foolish to let him go just now. He knew what he was doing when signed a other extension. I am confident he will get his minutes in the busy festive schedule and surely next year. 

[Vesper 28,802]

20 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

Deschamps should become Girouds agent if he is so keen on brokering moves for him. Incredible. Never seen a manager so repeatedly and brazenly ramble about other clubs transfer business. 

fucker is ex Chels too won the bloody FA Cup with us in 2000

he needs to staple his gob shut

[OneMoSalah 8,777]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

fucker is ex Chels too won the bloody FA Cup with us in 2000

he needs to staple his gob shut

Hes France manager so he wants his key players playing week in week out so they are in good shape for the tournaments and international games. Dont see the fuss. All international managers are the same.

[Jase 43,479]

35 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Most injuries will come at the business end of the season after the accumulation of fixtures. That is when we will need him. I think it would be foolish to let him go just now. He knew what he was doing when signed a other extension. I am confident he will get his minutes in the busy festive schedule and surely next year. 

But how many minutes is the question. Will it be enough to satisfy him? Last season worked out well because there was no option apart from Abraham upfront and in some ways, we also kinda got lucky with his contract extension because the Euros was postponed and the pandemic happened. 

[Jase 43,479]

Regardless of when Giroud leaves, we knew it was going to happen at some point and we're gonna need to find someone who is happy to play the backup role in January. 

[NikkiCFC 7,950]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

Regardless of when Giroud leaves, we knew it was going to happen at some point and we're gonna need to find someone who is happy to play the backup role in January. 

Werner, Abraham and Havartz in urgency can play CF. We don't need replacement when Olie leaves. But for next season Broja can be that 3rd striker. 

[Jase 43,479]

12 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Werner, Abraham and Havartz in urgency can play CF. We don't need replacement when Olie leaves. But for next season Broja can be that 3rd striker. 

In the short term aka from next January till May, we could probably get away with Werner, Abraham and Havertz. But long term? I don't think so, not when Werner is played on the LW half of the time and Broja is not the answer. At his age, he needs to be playing week in week out to develop and not sit on the bench. 

[Hutcho 8,443]

Most injuries will come at the business end of the season after the accumulation of fixtures. That is when we will need him. I think it would be foolish to let him go just now. He knew what he was doing when signed a other extension. I am confident he will get his minutes in the busy festive schedule and surely next year. 

Well come January we'll know a lot more then as its the next 2 months which will be the busiest.

He's earned his move away if he wants to play for the euros. We'll know come January how needed he is. Injuries before he'll get minutes and stay. If there's no injuries when we hit mid January then he can go. And if injuries come after we have 3 players who can play striker well and can recall our loan army if we needed to.

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

9 minutes ago, Hutcho said:

 

 

Well come January we'll know a lot more then as its the next 2 months which will be the busiest.

He's earned his move away if he wants to play for the euros. We'll know come January how needed he is. Injuries before he'll get minutes and stay. If there's no injuries when we hit mid January then he can go. And if injuries come after we have 3 players who can play striker well and can recall our loan army if we needed to.

 

He does deserve to have his wish but my loyalty is always to the club. If we need him I could not care less if he goes to the euros or not. Deachamps is so in love with him he will nominate him anyway I guess. And I think one reason for his old body still being strong enough is that he always turns up for int football well rested. 
If by January we look only remotely like challenging for a title we should no way let him go. An experienced back up like Olie is exactly what can make the difference between a title and no title

[Vesper 28,802]

Giroud set to push for Chelsea exit in January over fears for France place

https://theathletic.com/2202606/2020/11/17/giroud-chelsea-january-transfer-france/

Chelsea are facing a battle to keep Olivier Giroud in January and The Athletic understands the 34-year-old will definitely look to leave unless he plays significantly more for the west London club over the next few months.

The club successfully kept the France striker from leaving at the start of the year and in the summer, but it is going to take something quite dramatic to make it third time lucky.

The situation has become so stark because Giroud’s place in the France team is at risk for next summer’s European Championships. That is also the reason he considered departing earlier in 2020 before the tournament was postponed for a year due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

France coach Didier Deschamps made the situation clear during a press conference before their UEFA Nations League game against Sweden on Tuesday night. “Olivier knows it — the situation he’s in today cannot drag on forever. Before March (when France begin their World Cup qualifying campaign) he will have to find another situation than this one,” he said.

That last sentence could just be referring solely to getting more appearances at Stamford Bridge before March, but it is believed Deschamps has also privately suggested to Giroud that he should consider moving elsewhere.

Deschamps’ concern is understandable. Giroud has been his first-choice centre forward in recent years, including the successful 2018 bid to win the World Cup, but he is barely getting on the pitch at Chelsea.

Giroud was in the same scenario 12 months ago, yet he has actually registered less playing time before the November international break this season compared to the same date (November 7) last year. In 2019-20, he had played 211 minutes (over six games) for 2019-20, but he has only been given 154 minutes (also over six games) this season. There is the caveat that this season began in September, with four extra games played by November 7 in 2019-20, but the numbers make grim reading regardless, especially when you consider his only start was in the Carabao Cup defeat by Tottenham.

In contrast, Giroud has played 340 minutes for France since the start of September but there has been a sign of Deschamps’ selection policy being affected by the Chelsea player’s lack of match sharpness. He was a substitute in two of France’s last three games, with Deschamps starting Anthony Martial in the wins over Croatia in October and Portugal on Saturday.

It is hard to see how things will turnaround at Chelsea in the manner they did at the beginning of the year. Giroud was close to joining Inter Milan but ended up staying for the second half of the season, mainly because Chelsea were not able to make the signings that they hoped could freshen up the attack.

Positive talks were also held with coach Frank Lampard at the end of January, which helped to forge the close bond that is still enjoyed between them today. Giroud was in the starting XI for 10 of the final 12 Premier League games last season, scoring eight times. His impact was a major factor in Chelsea securing a top-four finish.

But the former Arsenal striker only had the (relatively) inexperienced Tammy Abraham and much-maligned Michy Batshuayi to compete with, whereas things are a lot tougher now.

The £47 million acquisition of Germany international striker Timo Werner is a major factor. He has been in the starting XI for all eight Premier League games this season. The only Chelsea fixture in which he has not got on the pitch at all was the victory over Barnsley in the Carabao Cup.

Abraham has reestablished himself under Lampard, which can be seen by the 12 games he has played, albeit half as a substitute. And notably, the Chelsea coach opted for another new buy, attacking midfielder Kai Havertz, to lead the line against Liverpool rather than Giroud.

Lampard’s thought process is comprehensible — players bought for a lot of money are always going to play. As talented as Giroud still is, at 34 and with less than a year left on his contract, he is not going to be part of the club’s long-term plans. Abraham and Werner also offer a lot more pace.

Giroud has been very happy being part of the squad and felt at home at Chelsea. He is much admired in the camp for his professionalism. There has been no trouble behind the scenes throughout.

Lampard said as much when asked about how Giroud has reacted to his predicament earlier this month. The Chelsea coach said: “He has given a typically great response to train as well as possible and support the group. He is amazing around the group and that is just a fact with Oli and maybe not a fact with people all around the team. I can’t speak highly enough of him on that side.

“It is part of my job I don’t like. Good players, top people who are around the group, that don’t always play. But I have those issues. Tammy Abraham started at least half of the games last season and he was one of the top scorers in the Premier League. When Oli came in, he performed very well in the restart for us, which was a huge factor in us getting into the top four. I have difficult questions to answer and selections in the team. I have great professionals and Oli is absolutely showing that.”

But praise, respect and enjoying your surroundings can only go so far. Giroud hasn’t got many years left of his career for club and country and won’t want to watch others from the sidelines every week.

Deschamps is clearly increasing the pressure on his shoulders too, as he went on to say: “I never give advice, I give an opinion. At the end of the day, it’s the player’s decision. He has had situations that have sometimes been complicated to deal with.

“Today, it is not good for him. Will it stay the same or will it improve? It’s up to him. He knows what I think, even if I don’t forget everything he has done and everything he would still be able to do.

“Olivier has been affected, first of all with the situation he has at his club, knowing that he has a large frame and that he needs rhythm. It’s hard. That’s not why I want to lose him, it’s complicated, we’ll talk, but obviously he has every interest in it not lasting, for him, to remain competitive, but we must not forget what he did with us and what he is still able to do.

“Anthony has a different profile but one that gives options. Anthony, today, is more fulfilled and in better physical and psychological conditions, obviously.”

So what will happen next? Chelsea will take a lot of persuading to let him go unless they find a replacement. Lampard certainly won’t want to see his options cut amid an intense fixture list and increased possibility of injuries. And persuading someone else of the suitable quality to join the squad won’t be an easy task either with Werner and Abraham in situ.

Inter Milan will likely make another attempt to buy Giroud. The Serie A side still require a back-up for Romelu Lukaku, although it remains to be seen whether the forward would be happy with that scenario.

There is a possibility he could seek another Premier League club and that was certainly mooted before, with Tottenham Hotspur, West Ham United, Newcastle United and Aston Villa all considering making an offer at various times over the last 10 months. After adding Gareth Bale and Carlos Vinicius to their ranks, one can assume Spurs is no longer an option, though.

The situation will have to be resolved one way or another and as things stand, the likelihood is that Giroud won’t see the season out at Chelsea.

[MoroccanBlue 5,297]

In these current conditions, we'd be mad to sell. 

Sorry Olivier, club needs you until the end of the season. Virtually no way he will lose his place at the Euro's, despite the bollocks Dechamps says. 

[Azul 1,615]

In these current conditions, we'd be mad to sell. 

Sorry Olivier, club needs you until the end of the season. Virtually no way he will lose his place at the Euro's, despite the bollocks Dechamps says. 

He needs game time though. It's unfair for him to rot on the bench even though he is one of the big reasons why we got European football this season.

 

 

 

 

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,297]

9 minutes ago, Azul said:

He needs game time though. It's unfair for him to rot on the bench even though he is one of the big reasons why we got European football this season.

 

 

 

 

 

But is this Giroud FC or Chelsea FC?

Our spending this summer is highly dependent on the club finishing Top 4. Werner gets injured and/or Tammy gets COVID, we are fucked. This is an incredibly congested season and Giroud will get plenty of time considering rotation and injuries. 

Plus, Dechamps continues to say Giroud needs playing time, yet he continues to select and start him every game? Virtually nothing suggests he won't pick Giroud for the Euros as things stand. 

[Azul 1,615]

But is this Giroud FC or Chelsea FC? Our spending this summer is highly dependent on the club finishing Top 4. Werner gets injured and/or Tammy gets COVID, we are fucked. This is an incredibly congested season and Giroud will get plenty of time considering rotation and injuries.  Plus, Dechamps continues to say Giroud needs playing time, yet he continues to select and start him every game? Virtually nothing suggests he won't pick Giroud for the Euros as things stand.    

 

 

How did Tammy get ahead of Giroud in the pecking order before the season even started? We both know Giroud had clutch performances which made it possible for us to get top four, which then enabled us to get all these players.   

 

 

Some people are unthankful to be honest, and very quick to forget. You either give him enough game time to prove himself or sell him and buy someone else with the intention of making them a bottom tier squad player. 

 

Nothing against Tammy by the way, he's performing and doing his thing. However he's been given enough game time to prove himself, for all we know it could have been Giroud shining right now.