Mechromancer 262 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 No shit, guys. With Isco we can rape every team in the Premier. Who cares about the game without the ball? You have Fabregas and Francisco. Our possession gonna be infinite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I know Oscar hasn't lit the world on fire since he moved here except just showed flashes here and there but I feel we need to be more patient with him because his potential is so high. Just seems to struggle so much with consistency.There is inconsistent, and there is having about 3 good games since January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic weeds 446 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 No shit, guys. With Isco we can rape every team in the Premier. Who cares about the game without the ball? You have Fabregas and Francisco. Our possession gonna be infinite.Francesc and Francisco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sainttourist 68 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 People talking about Oscar inconsistent in Barkley topic. The guy is 20 years old, played one season at top, about 30 games overall. There problems with english football starts I believe. The guy need at least another two seasons at Everton to be considered potential english star, but with desperation of top clubs to add english core, he will end at us or City for silly money in a season. And that will be huge gamble for both parties, and could end like another disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Anyone see Ross' performance against QPR in a deeper role? He was fantastic. Honestly would love him at the club, would give Oscar a massive run for his money.If we were going to sign another midfielder it'd be him for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Anyone see Ross' performance against QPR in a deeper role? He was fantastic. Honestly would love him at the club, would give Oscar a massive run for his money.If we were going to sign another midfielder it'd be him for me.still think he's very different from Oscar as characteristics go.I like Barkley very much, but they've played nobody today.QPR stars Robert Green and Richard Dunne.... How do they play in the PL is beyond me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Anyone see Ross' performance against QPR in a deeper role? He was fantastic. Honestly would love him at the club, would give Oscar a massive run for his money.If we were going to sign another midfielder it'd be him for me.Hes been very very inconsistent this season in comparison to last which I think shows he isn't at that level to be a Chelsea player... yet. He still needs time, he could give Oscar a run for his money but Oscar is much much better in terms of decisions and his final ball seems more consistent than Barkleys right now.I've seen Isco's name floated about this thread and other ones recently and I'm not gonna lie, he would be some signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Everton has a knack for producing very talented ugly players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 still think he's very different from Oscar as characteristics go.I like Barkley very much, but they've played nobody today.QPR stars Robert Green and Richard Dunne.... How do they play in the PL is beyond me...Yeah, he's different for sure but he does have the attributes to perform Oscar's role in the team in his own way. Whilst it was only QPR, his performance was still very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 One of those performances you just have to sit back and enjoy. Thought he was brilliant last night, he's some size and I honestly think he will go on to be an insanely good footballer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Hes been very very inconsistent this season in comparison to last which I think shows he isn't at that level to be a Chelsea player... yet. He still needs time, he could give Oscar a run for his money but Oscar is much much better in terms of decisions and his final ball seems more consistent than Barkleys right now.I've seen Isco's name floated about this thread and other ones recently and I'm not gonna lie, he would be some signing. Barkley's just came back from a lengthy lay off, he's done well to play himself into form but yeah, his main problem as it is with most young players is inconsistency but that's normal. I actually don't think Oscar's final ball is that much more consistent than Barkley's even though he has improved. Barkley is already a bigger threat in the final third IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 He loses the ball too much in the final third. Forces a lot of things. He's gotta improve in that aspect to get to the next level. The ability is already there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Barkley's just came back from a lengthy lay off, he's done well to play himself into form but yeah, his main problem as it is with most young players is inconsistency but that's normal. I actually don't think Oscar's final ball is that much more consistent than Barkley's even though he has improved. Barkley is already a bigger threat in the final third IMO.Na I think the same as what Bir_CFC just posted, he does force it, making wrong decisions too often. Oscar's is a bit inconsistent still too but he makes the right choices more often than not. I think Oscar's a superior player in terms of his all round game and in the final third Oscar is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I recognize that I am totally enthralled by the spectacular football of Ross Barkley. He is absolutely amazing. I think he has a very similiar to Fabregas mentality, respecting the distances. When Barkley plays you know who is the leader of his team. I followed him all this season and I think if we have to make an effort by someone in January this effort has to be by Ross Barkley. If we put in the same center of the field Matic - Ross Barkley - Fabregas - Oscar we could improve our total team qualifying.In addition he is from England, which would help us with the minimum quota of players born in England, and he can also play in Champions. The only problem is the price, but Everton not very well now and we we could benefit from that situation. How much money do you think he can cost ?.With him we would have a perfect partner of Fabregas and a good backup when Fabregas need to rest. Also bring us something we need such as long distance shots.I put four videos of Ross Barkley of four games he has played in the last two months. I hope your comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Will be a top player in the future. You think we could buy him to be part of our midfield trio and start playing Oscar on the right wing?His price this January would be around 30m-35m IMO. Could be funded partially by the sale of Andre..... The kid also has good shot and would give us real threat from distances.Edit. I think Barkley could play on the right wing as well. Offers pace and power and is a tall kid which would mean that using Ivanovic on the rightback would not be necessary. He is very much two footed so he could cut inside from the wing and take the shot with his left. What do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 If Barkley comes,RLC and Baker can say goodbye to their Chelsea career Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 If Barkley comes,RLC and Baker can say goodbye to their Chelsea careerWhy? Having an young Englishman as a regular would IMO improve the chances of other English players to be included as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Why? Having an young Englishman as a regular would IMO improve the chances of other English players to be included as well.Why should it improve anything?Barkley would just get their position.4-3-3Cesc-Barkley------MaticBU:Ramires,Mikel and OscarNo place for RLC or Baker.They would just get loaned out,maybe they play very good,come back again with a lot of hope,Mou does not play them and they will get sold because Barkley at that time would be already a part of the squad,so it is hard to win that battle.After one or two seasons,Chelsea will have lose a part of their identification because Terry will not be in the starting line up anymore,so no former youth team player in the Chelsea starting line up,which would be really sad,at least for me.Investing millions in an academy,producing good talents and then to buy players for millions of pounds,instead of giving the produced talents a chance is just wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Will be a top player in the future. You think we could buy him to be part of our midfield trio and start playing Oscar on the right wing?His price this January would be around 30m-35m IMO. Could be funded partially by the sale of Andre..... The kid also has good shot and would give us real threat from distances.Edit. I think Barkley could play on the right wing as well. Offers pace and power and is a tall kid which would mean that using Ivanovic on the rightback would not be necessary. He is very much two footed so he could cut inside from the wing and take the shot with his left. What do you guys think? I agree with that Barkley could play on our right side, allowing us to keep oscar in central attacking midfielder. He can play coupled to one side and could be perfect to form a perfect center field with much physical strength and intelligence. Besides our players play with great mobility and rotate their positions frequently. Oscar and Barkley could swap their positions many times according to the timing of the match.I think we could play with this team. Fabregas - Matic Ross Barkley - Oscar - Hazard DiegoI also think that 30-35 million would be a more than fair price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 If Barkley comes,RLC and Baker can say goodbye to their Chelsea careerI think, respecting all opinions, with players like Baker and especially Ruben Loftus-Cheek what both they and we need is very calm and patience. Baker still only 19 years old and Ruben Loftus-Cheek is still younger and has 18 years, they are two children. If fichasemos Ross Barkley, who is 21, is already a star with a great present and an enormous future. His signing would give the necessary calm both Baker and Ruben Loftus-Cheek to develop as players without the pressure of having to play in our first team. We have to remember if Courtois, he left Chelsea with 19 years as a child and thanks to time, patience and experience acquired by Courtois back 22 years he was a man, the best goalkeeper in the world. If we give calmness and patience to Baker and Ruben Loftus-Cheek their future will be much better for us. Go faster with young players only leads to jeopardize their careers.Meanwhile, in that 3-4 years Baker and Ruben Loftus-Cheek make their personal and professional development, we may have to Ross Barkley in our midfield creating a Dream Team with Matic - Fabregas - Oscar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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