closed Chelsea 1-0 Man Utd

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[Jase 43,479]

 

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

 

Maybe Drinkwater-Kante-Bakayoko 

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In spite of Conte's comments, I am fairly optimistic that Cahill and Cesc will not feature in this game. 

Drinkwater is back, KANTE is likely back. There are good options at Centre Back. 

Drinkwater-Kante in midfield would completely change our performance

[LAB 1,030]

Jose shut down Liverpool and Spurs recently. I am not very optimistic since we struggle so much right now. A 0-0 seems like a nice scenario to me atm, would take that gladly.

[Jase 43,479]

A rallying cry from the (real) captain...

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2 hours ago, LAB said:

Jose shut down Liverpool and Spurs recently. I am not very optimistic since we struggle so much right now. A 0-0 seems like a nice scenario to me atm, would take that gladly.

Very sad.

[Antonio8 736]

these are pedro's matches 

[quickpassnmove 924]

Ruedi--Christensen--Luiz--Azpi

   Drink---Kante---Baka

Pedro--Morata-----Hazard

 

At this point, IDK what a good lineup is with this squad.

Again, left back is a problem unless Kenedy becomes a viable starter any week now.

 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

On another note I also dont get two things; 

1.) Under Mou we became slow without any movement. Then Conte came and we were brilliant. Players moved quickly, many options to pass to, lot of dynamic to the game. This year its slow and no movement again

2.) Defenders under Mou were reckless in posession, get the ball and hoof it away. No control and composure in back. Conte came and we improved there big time. This season, again defenders have zero composure and we cant build from back at all.

So the big question is, why? Because of Conte or players simply decide to turn off every second season? 

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11 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

On another note I also dont get two things; 

1.) Under Mou we became slow without any movement. Then Conte came and we were brilliant. Players moved quickly, many options to pass to, lot of dynamic to the game. This year its slow and no movement again

2.) Defenders under Mou were reckless in posession, get the ball and hoof it away. No control and composure in back. Conte came and we improved there big time. This season, again defenders have zero composure and we cant build from back at all.

So the big question is, why? Because of Conte or players simply decide to turn off every second season? 

Tactics. Teams are pinning back our wingbacks while closely marking our midfielders. It's pretty much leaves us with No midfield, no wide outball, a front 3 that can barely get on the ball and a back three that has no passing options to play. 

We're slow and there's no movement because the players aren't getting the space they did last season. Especially our wingbacks. Last season they regularly had acres of space in front of them. 

[jernej93 569]

With Cahill in starting eleven:
Games: 11
Won: 5
Lost: 4
Draw: 2
Clean sheets: 2

Without Cahill in starting eleven:
Games: 5
Won: 5
Clean sheets: 3

 

Watch him start tomorrow  
 

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2 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

On another note I also dont get two things; 

1.) Under Mou we became slow without any movement. Then Conte came and we were brilliant. Players moved quickly, many options to pass to, lot of dynamic to the game. This year its slow and no movement again

2.) Defenders under Mou were reckless in posession, get the ball and hoof it away. No control and composure in back. Conte came and we improved there big time. This season, again defenders have zero composure and we cant build from back at all.

So the big question is, why? Because of Conte or players simply decide to turn off every second season? 

Because the opponent knows how to cope with our threats now and Chelsea's lineup offers no threat from the wingbacks and very little from centre midfield, while the RF/RW is a goal threat about 30% of the time AT BEST.  Our buildup play wasn't even that great last season, but counterattacks were effective early in the season and halfway through the season. Now we are stifled with meager goalscoring threats in our side and the players, like Hazard still don't have have attack support/link-up play they need.  Hazard is frustrating himself sometimes, but IMO it's all down to the fact that our side haven't exhibited flowing football much since Eden came to Chelsea.

Interplay is poor at Chelsea; the times when our play does flow with speed and accuracy are exceptional moments for us. Conte could not change that overnight and for the long term without more fiscal support from the board.

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Tell me: when Eden Hazard gets the ball on the wing, what has Chelsea offered as pacey, skilled support to him since he's been here when every time two defenders seal off lanes to reach the central striker and we have had zero threat from LB/LWB  or from centre midfield?

Look at the other side of the pitch; is it any better? Diego and Fabregas offered more to punch our way through defenders but those threats are basically gone and done.

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1 hour ago, jernej93 said:

With Cahill in starting eleven:
Games: 11
Won: 5
Lost: 4
Draw: 2
Clean sheets: 2

Without Cahill in starting eleven:
Games: 5
Won: 5
Clean sheets: 3

 

Watch him start tomorrow  
 

I think Gary and Willian are the two top candidates to leave us. I don't understand why CFC didn't have the sense to buy Harry Maguire and let Cahill be a backup or sell him.

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32 minutes ago, quickpassnmove said:

I think Gary and Willian are the two top candidates to leave us. I don't understand why CFC didn't have the sense to buy Harry Maguire and let Cahill be a backup or sell him.

LOL?!

[OhForAGreavsie 6,073]

6 hours ago, quickpassnmove said:

Ruedi--Christensen--Luiz--Azpi

   Drink---Kante---Baka

Pedro--Morata-----Hazard

 

At this point, IDK what a good lineup is with this squad.

Again, left back is a problem unless Kenedy becomes a viable starter any week now.

 

I know you weren't really suggesting we should hold out hope for Kennedy but here goes even so. It has taken Kennedy twenty years to get where he is now. He isn't going to complete the journey ever, never mind in a matter of weeks. He is 100% not a wingback. No chance. None.

If there are genuinely people who want to believe that the blame lies with Antonio then they are as deluded as those who were blaming Jose.

[Pizy 18,907]

I know Lukaku will be a handful and very dangerous but the one player I'm really scared of tomorrow is Rashford. The thought of him running at any of our defenders is scary. It actually might be beneficial for us to play Azpi wide for this reason. He's the only defender we have who's actually good in 1 v 1 situations.

From what I've heard since I haven't watched them every game this season is that Mou rarely starts both Rashford and Martial so if that trend continues it'll be great for us. Any super pacey, super skillful wide player against Alonso is a recipe for disaster.

Can see this being a Mourinho special. A boring 0-0 until the 80+ minute mark and then they usually score. Think I heard they've scored most of their goals this season late in matches so hopefully that doesn't happen.

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10 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Think I heard they've scored most of their goals this season late in matches

That has happened only because they were leading 1-0 going into the final stages of the game and opposition opened up to chase the equalizer, which obviously in turn left themselves to be picked apart on the break. IF we can keep things tight and don't make any stupid mistakes, then we will have a chance of getting a result tomorrow. Taking the lead first will certainly help.