robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, kellzfresh said: That is the main problem. He has no first touch, he cant finish chances, he cant hold up play so that Chelsea can sustain attacks in the danger area. Falling like a baby every goddamn time, He's such a liability, its unreal. I disagree. I think he has very good technique. It’s his physique that lets him down esp in tough games. I was expecting him to work hard and bulk up a bit. I mean he is young enough to do that, but it does not seem is very dedicated guy either. Does not look like he can turn it around here. He needs to move to a less physical league. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Robguima said: I disagree. I think he has very good technique. It’s his physique that lets him down esp in tough games. I was expecting him to work hard and bulk up a bit. I mean he is young enough to do that, but it does not seem is very dedicated guy either. Does not look like he can turn it around here. He needs to move to a less physical league. He needs two, three touches to get control of the ball. That is average technique at best not Lukaku level bad, but average. It's also why he rarely gives one touch passes to Hazard because he cant even control the ball well enough to pull it off like Giroud does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Superblue and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 51 minutes ago, kellzfresh said: He needs two, three touches to get control of the ball. That is average technique at best not Lukaku level bad, but average. It's also why he rarely gives one touch passes to Hazard because he cant even control the ball well enough to pull it off like Giroud does. I don’t deny they were poor touches. He was under pressure at all times, with a guy breathing down his neck. Lukaku imo has much inferior technique, but because he’s stronger, he manages to find spaces more easily (not lying on the ground as much either). In empty spaces it is easier to pick a pass or take shot. either way, it does not look like morata has the drive to turn it around. He looks the same as before and a bit disinterested at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Robguima said: I don’t deny they were poor touches. He was under pressure at all times, with a guy breathing down his neck. Lukaku imo has much inferior technique, but because he’s stronger, he manages to find spaces more easily (not lying on the ground as much either). In empty spaces it is easier to pick a pass or take shot. either way, it does not look like morata has the drive to turn it around. He looks the same as before and a bit disinterested at that. Both Morata and Lukaku are below what you expect from a striker. Just a big fish in small pond type of strikers. They arent big players. Both Chelsea and United shoot themselves in the leg when paying 70m each on those two. Not that there are many better options, but still. Johnnyeye and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 17 hours ago, Robguima said: I disagree. I think he has very good technique. It’s his physique that lets him down esp in tough games. I was expecting him to work hard and bulk up a bit. I mean he is young enough to do that, but it does not seem is very dedicated guy either. Does not look like he can turn it around here. He needs to move to a less physical league. He’s got worse technique than I did when I was 12, and no I didn’t play professionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXL70 396 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Hazard does not trust him anymore. I understand Hazard. Hazard wants to play with Giroud. I understand Hazard again. kellzfresh, Vybzkartel, Johnnyeye and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, BXL70 said: Hazard does not trust him anymore. I understand Hazard. Hazard wants to play with Giroud. I understand Hazard again. Watching this video does show that hazard doesnt trust Morata with the ball we can't continue on with this we need to get the funds up and buy a new striker in January Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,178 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 On 19/10/2018 at 8:55 PM, Robguima said: It's funny how perceptions go, I think aubameyang and Lacazette are essentially at the same level of Morata: good players, not great players. LOLOL you are having a laugh?? they are both miles beyond Morata Alexandre Lacazette Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (31 goals in 38 games last year) Álvaro Morata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 2 hours ago, the wes said: Watching this video does show that hazard doesnt trust Morata with the ball we can't continue on with this we need to get the funds up and buy a new striker in January Incredible. Throughout the video of all Hazard's touches in the match, he only passed the ball to morata once. The moment Giroud comes on, you see the link up between them. Hazard is smart enough to know that morata will fall to the ground and lose the ball anytime he passes to him. Morata is truly the reason why Hazard didn't play well. the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,054 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I disagree. I think he has very good technique. It’s his physique that lets him down esp in tough games. I was expecting him to work hard and bulk up a bit. I mean he is young enough to do that, but it does not seem is very dedicated guy either. Does not look like he can turn it around here. He needs to move to a less physical league. He's been here for almost a 1 yr and half & has done nothing to address that. No intention of bettering himself, so give him the easy life back in Spain. the wes and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, kellzfresh said: Incredible. Throughout the video of all Hazard's touches in the match, he only passed the ball to morata once. The moment Giroud comes on, you see the link up between them. Hazard is smart enough to know that morata will fall to the ground and lose the ball anytime he passes to him. Morata is truly the reason why Hazard didn't play well. Sarri must see that aswell ffs Vesper and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 41 minutes ago, LAM09 said: He's been here for almost a 1 yr and half & has done nothing to address that. No intention of bettering himself, so give him the easy life back in Spain. Its very annoying when people use physique as an excuse for morata. He know's he's physically weak and doesn't want to hit the gym? Just hoping the ref will give him a good time so that he can play well is bull. Physique, first touch and one touch passing is all part of hold up play and Morata is terrible in all three. LAM09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,054 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Its very annoying when people use physique as an excuse for morata. He know's he's physically weak and doesn't want to hit the gym? Just hoping the ref will give him a good time so that he can play well is bull. Physique, first touch and one touch passing is all part of hold up play and Morata is terrible in all three.Just a way for people to excuse him during the difficult times. That ship sailed a long time ago kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Vesper said: LOLOL you are having a laugh?? they are both miles beyond Morata Alexandre Lacazette Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (31 goals in 38 games last year) Álvaro Morata You quoted him from a month back so maybe his perceptions have changed but tbh then he did have a point. Not necessarily with Aubameyang but with Lacazette. He struggled very much last season and did not score much more than Morata or maybe Morata scored more, not too sure. He also took a lot of penalties back at Lyon and looked lost at several moments last season. This season now, he has done exactly what Morata should have done. Improved on from last season and take your game to another level. Lacazette looks like he has done that but like I said he was struggling last season but has improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,178 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 19 minutes ago, Stats said: You quoted him from a month back so maybe his perceptions have changed but tbh then he did have a point. Not necessarily with Aubameyang but with Lacazette. He struggled very much last season and did not score much more than Morata or maybe Morata scored more, not too sure. He also took a lot of penalties back at Lyon and looked lost at several moments last season. This season now, he has done exactly what Morata should have done. Improved on from last season and take your game to another level. Lacazette looks like he has done that but like I said he was struggling last season but has improved. I was unaware a month was now 2 days long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I would argue Morata's problem is less physical and more mental. He doesn't have the mentality of a top striker because he has absolutely no belief in himself. He doesn't need to be the strongest striker, there are plenty of examples of top strikers who aren't. If he wants to play with his back to goal then he has to back himself to hold the ball up. The only way a defender can win the ball is going through him which will be a foul, but this involves Morata inviting them to do this not assuming that's what they'll do and fall over. If they don't and simply hold their ground, then he can lay the ball off and spin them. Otherwise he doesn't play like this and instead he plays on the last man looking to get in behind all the time. But again, you wonder if he's intimidated to do this given the amount of chances he's missed previously. The top strikers will all go through goal droughts and bad performances but they back themselves to keep going and trying, and the fans can see that too. Hasselbaink, Drogba, Costa. It's what made them bonafide first choice strikers for the club and the same reason players like Morata and Torres simply haven't been up to scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 43 minutes ago, Vesper said: I was unaware a month was now 2 days long Read it wrong, sorry but my point remains the same. I also think right now a lot of it is mentality issue with Morata. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 2 hours ago, LAM09 said: He's been here for almost a 1 yr and half & has done nothing to address that. No intention of bettering himself, so give him the easy life back in Spain. Exactly my point. He’s not dedicated enough to turn it around. He should’ve been hitting the gym hard and getting stronger and stronger, and yet we see the very same player a year later. he doesn’t not seem to care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Vesper said: LOLOL you are having a laugh?? they are both miles beyond Morata Alexandre Lacazette Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (31 goals in 38 games last year) Álvaro Morata Stand by what I said. they are good players, not great. We need great players to significantly improve our team. my point is that replacing a 5.5 with a 6.0, while an improvement, won’t cut it. couldnt care less about stats in different leagues, diff conditions. These things aren’t comparable. I see them at Arsenal and judge them by what I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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