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20 minutes ago, akgw13 said:

Against bigger opponents a 352 with Verrati, Kante, Matic is rock solid and will still have the width with the WB's. He would have the most freedom of the 3 and could jump into the attack or play a deep anchor role like we envisioned for Cesc. Would strengthen our attack through the middle and give a different look going forward. Against lesser opponents who just want to park the bus I really think he could play next to kante/Matic in one of the 2 midfield roles in a 343. With our high press we recycle the ball quickly and with 3 cb's and 2 WB's im not concerned with him having to be in too many aerial battles. and offensively as a partner to Kante in a 343, it would just be ridiculous. Look how many assists Matic has already...now imagine verratti picking the passes instead. 

 

Im with you. But I cant see Matic hanging around long IF we were to get him.

But I like Chalobah and I think he could do good for us.

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19 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

Im with you. But I cant see Matic hanging around long IF we were to get him.

But I like Chalobah and I think he could do good for us.

Ya maybe not, but at least conte has inflated the worth of Matic in the market now. I do not want him to leave but if the right offer comes along I will help him pack. Conte is hot for Radja and besides the drama surrounding him in regards to signing him I would absolutely LOVE to have him playing in the matic spot. Chalobah certainly has contes trust and looks comfortable so i think he could do well. The fiorentina croatia guy Badelj is on the radar. lots of options. But IF Verratti wants to come, IF we can agree to a fee with PSG it would be an absolutely spectacular signing for us. 

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Watching the game on saturday i couldnt help but think that if Cesc Fabregas can pull off the two man midfield with kante against city than clearly Verratti can excel in the position! Any minor concern I had with Verratti positioning went out the window with that Fabregas performance. He is top of the buy list for me at the moment. 

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14 minutes ago, kmk108 said:

Not necessarily. If we're just judging on the pitch, yes. But aligns brings more in marketing and merchandise. 

Being a top team with great players and having success brings more marketing and merchandise sales.
And I would rather have a player who improves our team immensely, like N'golo Kante, than players whose name sells more kits like Paul Pogba is (right now atm since he is not improving Utd that much).

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Don't want to sound like Mourinho, but height would be an issue. In this formation with Kante his partner and Azpilicueta behind them we'd struggle on 2nd floor. Changes in formation and personnel would be needed, any thoughts on how to accomodate him?

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Just now, manpe said:

Don't want to sound like Mourinho, but height would be an issue. In this formation with Kante his partner and Azpilicueta behind them we'd struggle on 2nd floor. Changes in formation and personnel would be needed, any thoughts on how to accomodate him?

Not if we buy van dyke 😉

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I agree with Manpe. Plus, he's actually a pretty lazy player. Too nonchalant for my liking. All the ability in the world, but he'll never apply himself to the standard he could've reached if he ended up at Juventus like everyone seemed to think, including himself.

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20 minutes ago, Supermonkey92 said:

Not if we buy van dyke 😉

And bin Cesar? Kinda harsh, but a valid option.

EDIT: Some more thoughts I have on Verratti. We have a working system in place, buying Verratti would mean we'd need to change the system to accomodate one player. And the success we've been having with 3-4-3 there is reason to suspect that this isn't a temporary solution anymore. If that's the case and Conte has the same idea, then I have my doubts on Verratti fitting the team and the system. However in a 3-5-2 Pirlo role he'd be perfect, but that would shuffle up the rest of the team and the entire tactics.

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21 minutes ago, manpe said:

And bin Cesar? Kinda harsh, but a valid option.

EDIT: Some more thoughts I have on Verratti. We have a working system in place, buying Verratti would mean we'd need to change the system to accomodate one player. And the success we've been having with 3-4-3 there is reason to suspect that this isn't a temporary solution anymore. If that's the case and Conte has the same idea, then I have my doubts on Verratti fitting the team and the system. However in a 3-5-2 Pirlo role he'd be perfect, but that would shuffle up the rest of the team and the entire tactics.

Play cesar as lcb. Or, play Kante as a lcm and have him and Van Dyke help alonso stop crosses to cesar on the first place. 

 

I think 352 is the natural progression to a possession based team that can counter as well. We would just kill in the midfield with 3 cms and 2 wb. Only thing is the third cm has to offer attacking threat, Lampard would have been perfect. Marco may not be that man. Isco? But Verratti is going to be the best cm when modric, iniesta have gone. 

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I would like Veratti, but at the end of the day I believe Conte has proven that he deserves to get who he wants for the position. He pursued Nainggolan even after Kante was purchased, and I believe that that is the player type he is looking for. It shouldnt come as a surprise either, I see similarities with Vidal in him, and we all know Conte has a high opinion of the Chilean. 

I think that we will pursue a CM in January, especially as it seems Oscar is leaving. I do believe however that the player type we will look for is more in line of N'Zonzi, Tolisso, Marchisio, Good all-around players with dynamic profiles. It is also what we need. I like Matic when he plays well, but he is too static, he will often stay in position and ping it short to close by players. 

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52 minutes ago, manpe said:

And bin Cesar? Kinda harsh, but a valid option.

EDIT: Some more thoughts I have on Verratti. We have a working system in place, buying Verratti would mean we'd need to change the system to accomodate one player. And the success we've been having with 3-4-3 there is reason to suspect that this isn't a temporary solution anymore. If that's the case and Conte has the same idea, then I have my doubts on Verratti fitting the team and the system. However in a 3-5-2 Pirlo role he'd be perfect, but that would shuffle up the rest of the team and the entire tactics.

I disagree with the need to change the system, I believe that verratti is physical enough to hold is own in that spot next to kante/matic. If we can play fabregas against man city and win I have faith Verratti can play that spot. He also would fit in the 352 and any formation really. He is a class player with a tough streak and lots of skill. we are playing the 343 now but Conte values tactical flexibility (as any manager would) this is a player who can add to our flexibility.

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48 minutes ago, manpe said:

And bin Cesar? Kinda harsh, but a valid option.

EDIT: Some more thoughts I have on Verratti. We have a working system in place, buying Verratti would mean we'd need to change the system to accomodate one player. And the success we've been having with 3-4-3 there is reason to suspect that this isn't a temporary solution anymore. If that's the case and Conte has the same idea, then I have my doubts on Verratti fitting the team and the system. However in a 3-5-2 Pirlo role he'd be perfect, but that would shuffle up the rest of the team and the entire tactics.

 Veratti is the player worth adjusting the system to. Look, Conte actually adjusted tactic to the players he has now, if he had 11 better players individually than what he has now he may play completely different. He'll review his options again in the summer with new players and change accordingly. 

What is obvious squad is better with Veratti. I also think next season will be different beast. With fixture congestion we cannot make up everything with preparation and freshness in players. The individual quality in our players will be more important to beat fatigue and tired legs. 

Veratti is sensible move. Young, great, potentially special, knows the manager. 

 

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