Unionjack 7,531 Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 20 minutes ago, akgw13 said: Against bigger opponents a 352 with Verrati, Kante, Matic is rock solid and will still have the width with the WB's. He would have the most freedom of the 3 and could jump into the attack or play a deep anchor role like we envisioned for Cesc. Would strengthen our attack through the middle and give a different look going forward. Against lesser opponents who just want to park the bus I really think he could play next to kante/Matic in one of the 2 midfield roles in a 343. With our high press we recycle the ball quickly and with 3 cb's and 2 WB's im not concerned with him having to be in too many aerial battles. and offensively as a partner to Kante in a 343, it would just be ridiculous. Look how many assists Matic has already...now imagine verratti picking the passes instead. Im with you. But I cant see Matic hanging around long IF we were to get him. But I like Chalobah and I think he could do good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 19 minutes ago, Unionjack said: Im with you. But I cant see Matic hanging around long IF we were to get him. But I like Chalobah and I think he could do good for us. Ya maybe not, but at least conte has inflated the worth of Matic in the market now. I do not want him to leave but if the right offer comes along I will help him pack. Conte is hot for Radja and besides the drama surrounding him in regards to signing him I would absolutely LOVE to have him playing in the matic spot. Chalobah certainly has contes trust and looks comfortable so i think he could do well. The fiorentina croatia guy Badelj is on the radar. lots of options. But IF Verratti wants to come, IF we can agree to a fee with PSG it would be an absolutely spectacular signing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Watching the game on saturday i couldnt help but think that if Cesc Fabregas can pull off the two man midfield with kante against city than clearly Verratti can excel in the position! Any minor concern I had with Verratti positioning went out the window with that Fabregas performance. He is top of the buy list for me at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Psg looking €100m for the wee man. http://sportwitness.co.uk/chelsea-still-keen-ligue-1-star-wage-cap-place-stamford-bridge-problem/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,586 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, the wes said: Psg looking €100m for the wee man. http://sportwitness.co.uk/chelsea-still-keen-ligue-1-star-wage-cap-place-stamford-bridge-problem/ Give them Fabregas and money. That should do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 3 hours ago, the wes said: Psg looking €100m for the wee man. http://sportwitness.co.uk/chelsea-still-keen-ligue-1-star-wage-cap-place-stamford-bridge-problem/ If Pogba is worth 100m then Verratti sure is worth 100m! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, Yeboii said: If Pogba is worth 100m then Verratti sure is worth 100m! Not necessarily. If we're just judging on the pitch, yes. But aligns brings more in marketing and merchandise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 14 minutes ago, kmk108 said: Not necessarily. If we're just judging on the pitch, yes. But aligns brings more in marketing and merchandise. Being a top team with great players and having success brings more marketing and merchandise sales. And I would rather have a player who improves our team immensely, like N'golo Kante, than players whose name sells more kits like Paul Pogba is (right now atm since he is not improving Utd that much). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I always love watching Modric and Iniesta, if we could pull Verratti here who is arguably only player similar that could reach those two, I would go nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,083 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 5 hours ago, Yeboii said: If Pogba is worth 100m then Verratti sure is worth 100m! But then, we know that Pogba isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Yeah i'd slap Verratti on my ho ho ho list , hope at least 1 player comes off the back of Conte's influence, we will chuck in Mikel as a sweetner lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Oscar money just made this transfer a real possibility. No reason not to buy him now. Get him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Don't want to sound like Mourinho, but height would be an issue. In this formation with Kante his partner and Azpilicueta behind them we'd struggle on 2nd floor. Changes in formation and personnel would be needed, any thoughts on how to accomodate him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Just now, manpe said: Don't want to sound like Mourinho, but height would be an issue. In this formation with Kante his partner and Azpilicueta behind them we'd struggle on 2nd floor. Changes in formation and personnel would be needed, any thoughts on how to accomodate him? Not if we buy van dyke 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I agree with Manpe. Plus, he's actually a pretty lazy player. Too nonchalant for my liking. All the ability in the world, but he'll never apply himself to the standard he could've reached if he ended up at Juventus like everyone seemed to think, including himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 20 minutes ago, Supermonkey92 said: Not if we buy van dyke 😉 And bin Cesar? Kinda harsh, but a valid option. EDIT: Some more thoughts I have on Verratti. We have a working system in place, buying Verratti would mean we'd need to change the system to accomodate one player. And the success we've been having with 3-4-3 there is reason to suspect that this isn't a temporary solution anymore. If that's the case and Conte has the same idea, then I have my doubts on Verratti fitting the team and the system. However in a 3-5-2 Pirlo role he'd be perfect, but that would shuffle up the rest of the team and the entire tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 21 minutes ago, manpe said: And bin Cesar? Kinda harsh, but a valid option. EDIT: Some more thoughts I have on Verratti. We have a working system in place, buying Verratti would mean we'd need to change the system to accomodate one player. And the success we've been having with 3-4-3 there is reason to suspect that this isn't a temporary solution anymore. If that's the case and Conte has the same idea, then I have my doubts on Verratti fitting the team and the system. However in a 3-5-2 Pirlo role he'd be perfect, but that would shuffle up the rest of the team and the entire tactics. Play cesar as lcb. Or, play Kante as a lcm and have him and Van Dyke help alonso stop crosses to cesar on the first place. I think 352 is the natural progression to a possession based team that can counter as well. We would just kill in the midfield with 3 cms and 2 wb. Only thing is the third cm has to offer attacking threat, Lampard would have been perfect. Marco may not be that man. Isco? But Verratti is going to be the best cm when modric, iniesta have gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekin 835 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I would like Veratti, but at the end of the day I believe Conte has proven that he deserves to get who he wants for the position. He pursued Nainggolan even after Kante was purchased, and I believe that that is the player type he is looking for. It shouldnt come as a surprise either, I see similarities with Vidal in him, and we all know Conte has a high opinion of the Chilean. I think that we will pursue a CM in January, especially as it seems Oscar is leaving. I do believe however that the player type we will look for is more in line of N'Zonzi, Tolisso, Marchisio, Good all-around players with dynamic profiles. It is also what we need. I like Matic when he plays well, but he is too static, he will often stay in position and ping it short to close by players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 52 minutes ago, manpe said: And bin Cesar? Kinda harsh, but a valid option. EDIT: Some more thoughts I have on Verratti. We have a working system in place, buying Verratti would mean we'd need to change the system to accomodate one player. And the success we've been having with 3-4-3 there is reason to suspect that this isn't a temporary solution anymore. If that's the case and Conte has the same idea, then I have my doubts on Verratti fitting the team and the system. However in a 3-5-2 Pirlo role he'd be perfect, but that would shuffle up the rest of the team and the entire tactics. I disagree with the need to change the system, I believe that verratti is physical enough to hold is own in that spot next to kante/matic. If we can play fabregas against man city and win I have faith Verratti can play that spot. He also would fit in the 352 and any formation really. He is a class player with a tough streak and lots of skill. we are playing the 343 now but Conte values tactical flexibility (as any manager would) this is a player who can add to our flexibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 48 minutes ago, manpe said: And bin Cesar? Kinda harsh, but a valid option. EDIT: Some more thoughts I have on Verratti. We have a working system in place, buying Verratti would mean we'd need to change the system to accomodate one player. And the success we've been having with 3-4-3 there is reason to suspect that this isn't a temporary solution anymore. If that's the case and Conte has the same idea, then I have my doubts on Verratti fitting the team and the system. However in a 3-5-2 Pirlo role he'd be perfect, but that would shuffle up the rest of the team and the entire tactics. Veratti is the player worth adjusting the system to. Look, Conte actually adjusted tactic to the players he has now, if he had 11 better players individually than what he has now he may play completely different. He'll review his options again in the summer with new players and change accordingly. What is obvious squad is better with Veratti. I also think next season will be different beast. With fixture congestion we cannot make up everything with preparation and freshness in players. The individual quality in our players will be more important to beat fatigue and tired legs. Veratti is sensible move. Young, great, potentially special, knows the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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