Marcos Alonso

[Barbara 15,149]

I could say a lot of things about Alonso, but the only true one would be admitting I've never heard of him before. Not even in his cameo on Sunderland. Hate the Black Cats with a passion, if he ever played against us, I honestly can't remember.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

8 hours ago, Jason said:

Seems like we have a few decent FK takers now in the squad - Willian, Oscar, Fabregas, Luiz, Hazard and Alonso. Not too bad.

It actually feels very weird considering that for years we had to watch Frank hit the wall 99% of the time  

[Mufassir08 2,400]

A fiorentina fan's opinion on Marcos Alonso

[Fernando 6,456]

1 hour ago, Mufassir08 said:

A fiorentina fan's opinion on Marcos Alonso

Sounds like the opinions people have of Oscar.... 

[Styles 9,790]

1 hour ago, Mufassir08 said:

A fiorentina fan's opinion on Marcos Alonso

 

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Even with all the usual caveats about transfer fees skyrocketing this season, there's no escaping the fact that it's a lot of money. Like, a lot. From an Italian perspective, the price is absolutely outrageous. Pjanic went for just a bit more, for crying out loud, and he's one of the best players in the league.

 

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I've seen a lot of talk about how he could play as a centre back and it's a bit misleading. True, he's played on the left of a back three before but only due to a poverty of options. That's alright in the slower paced, tactically robust Serie A, but he'd get torn apart trying to do the same in the Premier League. Drop him into that Conte style 4-2-4 and you expose all of his weakness and play to none of his strengths.

 

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Consistency is the main thing, he puts in a real shift every week, but there's nothing truly outstanding.

 

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But he's definitely a bit of a dreamer. He's best when he has an organiser in the back four, someone to shout at him. I guess Terry would fill this role at Chelsea. But when he's left alone with a similarly absent-minded defender — Astori, for example — things can get a bit hectic

 

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Do I think he's good enough for most Premier League teams? Sure. Is he going to be one of the best in the league. I doubt it. Could he do a job as a back up? Definitely.

Depressing.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Don't think he'll displace Ivanovic unfortunately. 

[Styles 9,790]

12 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

Don't think he'll displace Ivanovic unfortunately. 

Still can't understand why we let Baba go.

Why don't these supposedly top mangers want to coach & develop players any more? They just want finished articles.

We've sent out a player on loan and replaced him with somebody who by all accounts isn't an upgrade at all.

[Pizy 18,368]

Remember that he'll be surrounded by players about 5 levels above anyone he played with at Fiorentina. Will he look better with much better players around him? My guess is yes and that's why Conte wanted him. There's no way we would have gone for him unless Conte personally asked the club to sign him.

[Miki-Liki 405]

6 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Remember that he'll be surrounded by players about 5 levels above anyone he played with at Fiorentina.

Well, the player closest to him would currently be Cahill, so that's an arguable point.

[Styles 9,790]

32 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Remember that he'll be surrounded by players about 5 levels above anyone he played with at Fiorentina. Will he look better with much better players around him? My guess is yes and that's why Conte wanted him. There's no way we would have gone for him unless Conte personally asked the club to sign him.

Damn shame Emenalo didn't say no.

[Fernando 6,456]

1 hour ago, Styles said:

 

 

 

 

 

Depressing.

You can get more depressing reading this from the fan:

Chelsea want to pay a lot of money for Marcos Alonso

 

I am so confused by everything which is contained in this model that we call the universe that I think I need to go lie down for a little while.

 

We're all familiar with Marcos Alonso. A few of us tolerate him. Many of us hate him. Most of us think he's, eh, just fine. As a versatile defender who has some very obvious strengths and even more obvious weaknesses, he's the definition of a capable but forgettable squad player: occasional brilliance, occasional catastrophe, and a persistent failure to capture the hearts and minds of the fanbase. In short, he's not the sort of player you expect a mega-rich team to make a mega-rich bid for. And yet, here we are.

No, dear reader, it's not a fever dream. According to various media outlets in Italy and the UK, Chelsea have made a €25 million bid for Marcos #*&%ing Alonso. In fairness, Chelsea don't really have any leftbacks on the roster--Cesar Azpilicueta can fill in there, but that's pretty much it--and this late in the window, one has to make a big offer to pry a decent player away from a club. Alonso is also familiar with the Premier League after excelling for Bolton, and he is very handsome, but paying €25 million for him seems like a Bebe-level exercise in absurdity.

Oh, and while we're speaking of absurdity, here's another fun little nugget: Fiorentina may not let him go. That's right, a player who's routinely exposed in defense and can look helpless going forward apparently isn't worth approximately 0.9 Miralem Pjanices. Sure, it'd be tough to find a quality replacement this late in the window, and unproven veteran Hrvoje Milic is the only other leftback on the roster, but holding out for €30 million (the number Corvino's reportedly angling for) takes a heap of chutzpah. Sure, he looks this good in a highlight video, but, c'mon, it's Marcos.

For the record, Alonso has made 85 appearances for Fiorentina, notching 5 goals, 7 assists, 17 yellow cards, and a red card. 4 of those goals and 3 of those assists came last season, which was his finest in purple. As a hardworking, functional player who's a genuine threat at set pieces, you can see why Chelsea might want him and why the Viola would want to keep him. But when you look at the numbers being thrown around, this becomes less of a transfer rumor and more of a Samuel Beckett gag.

 

http://www.violanation.com/fiorentina-transfer-rumors-news-reports/2016/8/29/12685468/chelsea-want-to-pay-a-lot-of-money-for-marcos-alonso

[Styles 9,790]

2 minutes ago, Fernando said:

You can get more depressing reading this from the fan:

Chelsea want to pay a lot of money for Marcos Alonso

I am so confused by everything which is contained in this model that we call the universe that I think I need to go lie down for a little while.

 

We're all familiar with Marcos Alonso. A few of us tolerate him. Many of us hate him. Most of us think he's, eh, just fine. As a versatile defender who has some very obvious strengths and even more obvious weaknesses, he's the definition of a capable but forgettable squad player: occasional brilliance, occasional catastrophe, and a persistent failure to capture the hearts and minds of the fanbase. In short, he's not the sort of player you expect a mega-rich team to make a mega-rich bid for. And yet, here we are.

No, dear reader, it's not a fever dream. According to various media outlets in Italy and the UK, Chelsea have made a €25 million bid for Marcos #*&%ing Alonso. In fairness, Chelsea don't really have any leftbacks on the roster--Cesar Azpilicueta can fill in there, but that's pretty much it--and this late in the window, one has to make a big offer to pry a decent player away from a club. Alonso is also familiar with the Premier League after excelling for Bolton, and he is very handsome, but paying €25 million for him seems like a Bebe-level exercise in absurdity.

Oh, and while we're speaking of absurdity, here's another fun little nugget: Fiorentina may not let him go. That's right, a player who's routinely exposed in defense and can look helpless going forward apparently isn't worth approximately 0.9 Miralem Pjanices. Sure, it'd be tough to find a quality replacement this late in the window, and unproven veteran Hrvoje Milic is the only other leftback on the roster, but holding out for €30 million (the number Corvino's reportedly angling for) takes a heap of chutzpah. Sure, he looks this good in a highlight video, but, c'mon, it's Marcos.

For the record, Alonso has made 85 appearances for Fiorentina, notching 5 goals, 7 assists, 17 yellow cards, and a red card. 4 of those goals and 3 of those assists came last season, which was his finest in purple. As a hardworking, functional player who's a genuine threat at set pieces, you can see why Chelsea might want him and why the Viola would want to keep him. But when you look at the numbers being thrown around, this becomes less of a transfer rumor and more of a Samuel Beckett gag.

 

http://www.violanation.com/fiorentina-transfer-rumors-news-reports/2016/8/29/12685468/chelsea-want-to-pay-a-lot-of-money-for-marcos-alonso

Damn, we really signed someone for the sake of signing someone. I'm sick.

[Pizy 18,368]

He hasn't even kicked a ball yet for us and you guys are moaning. 

Just remember who we currently have at RB. Moving Azpi over there alone would be a huge upgrade and if Alonso can become a consistently good (doesn't even need to be great) LB that can link up with Hazard and put in dangerous crosses our team is much better.

Wait until he makes a handful of appearances before we start shitting on him.

[LAM09 6,744]

Depressing.

We can hope he improves amongst a higher calibre of player. Zabaleta is a name that springs to mind when we talk about someone playing at a lower level to then come to the Prem and become one of the best FB's.

No point in knocking someone before they have even kicked a ball. Price should be irrelevant in times were MASON is going for £10m+.

[Styles 9,790]

I'm not even hating tbh, just more frustrated that a player like Baba isn't given a fair shake.

[Pizy 18,368]

9 minutes ago, Styles said:

I'm not even hating tbh, just more frustrated that a player like Baba isn't given a fair shake.

I just think back to the last preseason match he played where, directly in front of Conte, Baba looked like a terrified pussy and played 2-3 straight simple forward passes out of play. He just looked completely lost. Like Cuadrado almost every appearance he made for us.

Conte wants players with balls and confidence. I'm just going to keep reassuring myself that at least he's clearly a Conte target. Have to trust his judgement with this guy.

[Styles 9,790]

2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I just think back to the last preseason match he played where, directly in front of Conte, Baba looked like a terrified pussy and played 2-3 straight simple forward passes out of play. He just looked completely lost. Like Cuadrado almost every appearance he made for us.

Conte wants players with balls and confidence. I'm just going to keep reassuring myself that at least he's clearly a Conte target. Have to trust his judgement with this guy.

I didn't see that game but surely a player deserves more of an opportunity to impress than just the very FIRST GAME OF PRE-SEASON!

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Considering we needed a starting fullback, all I want is he is good enough for that. 

I dont mind if he isnt big name from big club, BUT the board had whole summer to bring in fullback. Whole summer. We all knew Iva cant play much longer.

And here we are. We signed Alonso. Fine. But the board, Conte or whoever is responsible for throwing 25m at him, they better know the lad is good enough to take starting spot on left side. 

If we bought him just for the sake of it, throwing 25m, Kenedy and Ake loaning out and limiting Aina chances, if we bought him just to be back up, who wont play much unless injuries occur, then the board can kindly fuck off. I rather see Kenedy, Aina or Ake as back up option then.

Im not saying he is good enough or not, Im talking about the principle why we bought him in first place. If board doesnt value him as starter, the signing was pointless.