🇧🇪 Michy Batshuayi

[Fernando 6,585]

35 minutes ago, Jason said:

Wonder if it says something about Batshuayi's game as Conte, Sarri did not and now seemingly Lampard do not seem keen on him. 

Nor the many loans he has are many managers keen on him. 

[LAM09 7,056]

Nor the many loans he has are many managers keen on him. 

His only poor loan was at Valencia, so the odds are in his favour in that regard.

 

9 in 14 at Dortmund & 6 in 13 at Palace. Better that 1 in 2 combined.

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44 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

His only poor loan was at Valencia, so the odds are in his favour in that regard.

 

9 in 14 at Dortmund & 6 in 13 at Palace. Better that 1 in 2 combined.

that works out to 25 goals in 45 games total

will do backflips for that rate of return!!!!

 

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that works out to 25 goals in 45 games total
will do backflips for that rate of return!!!!
 

He'll be lucky to play a third of those games if early signs are anything to go by.

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14 hours ago, Jason said:

Wonder if it says something about Batshuayi's game as Conte, Sarri did not and now seemingly Lampard do not seem keen on him. 

It was different when we had Hazard that would guarantee 15 goals every season. But now im looking at our squad as a whole and i don't know who can score 15-20 goals. It's a big problem

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2 hours ago, kellzfresh said:

It was different when we had Hazard that would guarantee 15 goals every season. But now im looking at our squad as a whole and i don't know who can score 15-20 goals. It's a big problem

Goals are goals. No manager is gonna just bin players who can score goals without reason. 

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Goals are goals. No manager is gonna just bin players who can score goals without reason. 

They don't like them personally or have clear favourites. That's been reason enough for years at this club.

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Just now, LAM09 said:

5 hours ago, Jason said:

Goals are goals. No manager is gonna just bin players who can score goals without reason. 

They don't like them personally or have clear favourites. That's been reason enough for years at this club.

But 3 managers in a row? 

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But 3 managers in a row? 

Conte wanted Morata/Lukaku, Sarri got Higuain & Lamps seemingly has a love affair with Abraham.

 

 

It's quite clear. As I previously mentioned, I don't see Michy being someone that will happily train 100% or such, whilst be shafted.

 

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Club interested in Chelsea forward – Blues’ demands of €3m loan fee + all of his wages are an issue

http://sportwitness.co.uk/club-interested-chelsea-forward-blues-demands-e3m-loan-fee-wages-issue/

According to Turkish newspaper Sabah, Fenerbahce are interested in signing Chelsea striker Michy Bathshuayi ahead of the Turkish transfer deadline.

 

The Yellow Canaries have already strengthened their squad with Vedat Muriqi but Sabah say they are keen to add one more striker to their squad and their target is the Belgium international.

 

It’s reported that Chelsea manager Frank Lampard is open to let Batshuayi leave the club and Fenerbahce are looking to take advantage of this situation by making a loan offer to the London side.

 

After a loan spell at Crystal Palace during the second half of last season, the 26-year-old has returned to Chelsea but he wasn’t a part of the match day squad against Manchester United last weekend as Lampard preferred Tammy Abraham and Olivier Giroud ahead of him.

 

However, Sabah claim Fenerbahce might find it difficult to meet Chelsea’s demands as the Premier League side are looking to get a €3m loan fee for the player and they want his new team to cover all of his wages.

 

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5 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Conte wanted Morata/Lukaku, Sarri got Higuain & Lamps seemingly has a love affair with Abraham.

It's quite clear. As I previously mentioned, I don't see Michy being someone that will happily train 100% or such, whilst be shafted.

I don't think Batshuayi is great but he's not terrible like Bakayoko, is he? He's barely even getting a look-in right now despite our current situation and Abraham isn't going to play all season. 

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I don't think Batshuayi is great but he's not terrible like Bakayoko, is he? He's barely even getting a look-in right now despite our current situation and Abraham isn't going to play all season. 

He did his job in preseason when given the chance, so there isn't much else I can say.

I personally can't stand favouritism in any walk of life. Did you see how defensive Lampard got over Mourinho's comments (especially Mount) - https://talksport.com/football/585932/frank-lampard-jose-mourinho-mason-mount-chelsea-manchester-united/

Merit is a joke excuse already.

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10 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

He did his job in preseason when given the chance, so there isn't much else I can say.

Depends what you're looking for in the striker, I guess.

10 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

I personally can't stand favouritism in any walk of life. Did you see how defensive Lampard got over Mourinho's comments (especially Mount) - https://talksport.com/football/585932/frank-lampard-jose-mourinho-mason-mount-chelsea-manchester-united/

In this instance, Lampard was right to defend Mount. Mount wasn't perfect but played a good game, especially in the first half, and wasn't the reason why we lost the game like Mourinho was alluding to. Plus, Mourinho going after youth players for criticism is just so typical of him and at this point, people are just exhausted about his comments on youth. And for argument sake, even if Lampard did agree with Mourinho, he wasn't gonna throw his players under the bus in the public (like Mourinho always does) and certainly not a young player who just played his first Premier League game. 

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39 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Conte wanted Morata/Lukaku, Sarri got Higuain & Lamps seemingly has a love affair with Abraham.

It's quite clear. As I previously mentioned, I don't see Michy being someone that will happily train 100% or such, whilst be shafted.

Yet it keeps happening to him, managers who all see the game differently and (most likely) have never even meet have all come to the exact same conclusion.

There's only so many times the conspiracy card can be pulled.

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In this instance, Lampard was right to defend Mount. Mount wasn't perfect but played a good game, especially in the first half, and wasn't the reason why we lost the game like Mourinho was alluding to. Plus, Mourinho going after youth players for criticism is just so typical of him and at this point, people are just exhausted about his comments on youth. And for argument sake, even if Lampard did agree with Mourinho, he wasn't gonna throw his players under the bus in the public (like Mourinho always does) and certainly not a young player who just played his first Premier League game. 

 

Lampard didn't need to mention one player above the rest. We all know Mourinho's mindset on youth, but Lampard's immediate defence of one player was telling to me.

 

Can easily see him favouring Mount to Barkley.

 

 

 

Yet it keeps happening to him, managers who all see the game differently and (most likely) have never even meet have all come to the exact same conclusion.

There's only so many times the conspiracy card can be pulled.

 

If a manager does buy someone themselves or have a previous bond, it's extremely easy to discard said individual without any backlash. However outlandish it was, people were warming to the idea of selling Kante (our most important player WITH Hazard in the team) as Sarri didn't view him as a good fit early on.

 

Nothing to do with conspiracy. Roll on the day we sign a proper CF and no longer have to deal with "duds" or this topic.

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Just now, LAM09 said:

Lampard didn't need to mention one player above the rest. We all know Mourinho's mindset on youth, but Lampard's immediate defence of one player was telling to me.
Can easily see him favouring Mount to Barkley.

 

If you disagree with someone's opinion, I doubt you would just sit there quietly and say nothing. 

I do take your point, however, but it's way too early to be jumping to conclusions after one game. 

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5 hours ago, LAM09 said:

However outlandish it was, people were warming to the idea of selling Kante (our most important player WITH Hazard in the team) as Sarri didn't view him as a good fit early on.

Nothing to do with conspiracy. Roll on the day we sign a proper CF and no longer have to deal with "duds" or this topic.

I think that the numbers being floated to accept a sale of Kante were so high (£150-160m plus) that IF PSG did actually toss that kind of cash out there, we would have been mad to not snap it up, especially IF we could have worked out some deal for Mbappe going the other way for another £75m to £100m on top  (Neymar was still their solid, locked on the team, number one at the time)

Kante plus £90m or so for Mbappe, well I would have bitten PSG's hands off for that back then (and would do so now)

Kante turns 30 next season

Mbappe turns 22

Mbappe, IMHO, is already the best player on the planet, now that Messi and CR7 are ageing off toward the end of their careers (at least in terms of the insane standard they have set for the last 10 plus years, although Messi will last longer)

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It would be absolute insanity to let one of our three CFs go during this window. Absolute madness. Tammy and Giroud are quite alike as forwards, Michy gives us something a little different that might even have been what we desperately needed last season.

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What is it about Batshuayi that all our managers seem to hate to the point they refuse to play him and wish to sell?

I am really at a loss here. I know he is far from perfect, but he is still fairly young, has pace, a knack for goals, works his arse off (watch his pressing this preseason), and is a good bloke, character wise.

He seems to me to be our best overall striker (granted not a lot to get there.) I think it is madness to loan/sell him now.

Luiz I understand, and after last night I feel much better about Zouma and Tomori (I never, unlike many here, have had recent doubts about AC.)

I want Bats to stay and to be used a lot!!!!

Going forward with only Giroud and Tammy (I feel terrible for the kid, but he just, at least atm, is not nearly good enough) is worrisome, to put it lightly, especially if one goes down injured.