CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3255335/Chelsea-fans-unhappy-John-Terry-s-exile-beginning-turn-manager-Jose-Mourinho-favour-club-captain.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,505 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 This is talk you always hear when a team is going through a tough time. Every time. Same with the lack of motivation talk. Default reasoning.I don't buy the lack of leaders talk. Drogba and Cech were fringe players last season. I'm sure their presence helps but games aren't won or lost in the dressing room. That's nonsense imo. I'm sure the likes of Cahill, Ivanovic, Cesc, Matic were seen as 'leaders' last season because Chelsea were winning.Natural leaders like Terry, Puyol, Buffon, Gattuso etc. are rare. Win or lose, those guys are leaders. When the team is winning, additional leaders are 'created'. Barca win the treble so the likes of Messi, Iniesta, Pique, Mascherano, Alves get the label 'leader' stamped on their forehead. But they're just very good players (they weren't leaders when Barca won nothing in 13/14 though). Essien, Cole, Lampard and Cech are examples of those kinds of players imo. This is the worst start years but Chelsea went through rotten times and lost (hard at times) at different periods with those players as well.The reason Chelsea are losing is because they're playing poor football. Tactically poor imo and for some strange reason a whole group of players have simultaneously lost form. Maybe they aren't reacting to the coach anymore or maybe they're not fit. But the latter is unacceptable.Only Pique was labelled a leader. Iniesta got selected as Barca's captain this season, Messi is the current Argentina captain, Alves was a former Sevilla captain & Mascherano is a former Argentina captain..They won nothing in 13/14 as Martino was out of his depth coaching Barcelona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 #TeamTerry xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Only Pique was labelled a leader. Iniesta got selected as Barca's captain this season, Messi is the current Argentina captain, Alves was a former Sevilla captain & Mascherano is a former Argentina captain..They won nothing in 13/14 as Martino was out of his depth coaching BarcelonaCaptains aren't necessarily leaders. The band can be given to a player in a plot to keep them (longer) (Dani Alves), to increase their status or give them a sense of responsibility (Messi with Argentina, Neymar with Brazil) or is given to a player with the most experience/most apps or the player that has been at the club the longest (Iniesta).There are also a lot cases of the band given to the star player of a team, that applies to Messi and Neymar as well. And what about politics? I'm personally convinced Puyol was a better fit for the band than Casillas for Spain but he's a Catalan. Not that he needs to be captain to be a leader, just like JT for England.Out of those group of players, I'd only think of Mascherano as a leader. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Didn't actually do much wrong, most problems came when he had to run back and clean up Cahill's messes, and then the lack of matches kicked in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Didn't actually do much wrong, most problems came when he had to run back and clean up Cahill's messes, and then the lack of matches kicked in.Yeah, he didn't do much wrong other than, er, give up a goal. He initially tried to gamble and run down the channel early because he's slow but then when the ball was played inside he was off-balance and collapsed. But Terry's lack of pace isn't an issue! The defence being afraid and backing off 15 meters is just an illusion. Terry's lack of pace is absolutely OK! Kieran. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Yeah, he didn't do much wrong other than, er, give up a goal. He initially tried to gamble and run down the channel early because he's slow but then when the ball was played inside he was off-balance and collapsed. But Terry's lack of pace isn't an issue! The defence being afraid and backing off 15 meters is just an illusion. Terry's lack of pace is absolutely OK!Not surprised if he's dropped again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 John Terry: Chelsea squad remain behind Jose Mourinho... if anyone is going to get us out of this hole it's him: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3259330/John-Terry-Chelsea-squad-remain-Jose-Mourinho-going-hole-s-him.html#ixzz3nbPXtoRx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 MLS is waiting for you.NYCFC has a shit team needing a captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 MLS is waiting for you.NYCFC has a shit team needing a captain. Why the hurry of getting rid of him? Some respect for the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Why the hurry of getting rid of him? Some respect for the man.Well, he needs his last big/decent contract and MLS is a better option than ChinaUnless you think he will sign a 1 year deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Well, he needs his last big/decent contract and MLS is a better option than ChinaUnless you think he will sign a 1 year dealHe needs to stay. as a 4th cb, but he needs to stay. We just need him. xPetrCechx, LDN Blue and Fulham Broadway 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Still looks like invulnerable JT of last season when he has pace around him and that is one of the merits of Baba playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 He needs to stay. as a 4th cb, but he needs to stay. We just need him.Absolutely. Unlike Lampard under AVB, Terry's shown no signs of anger, frustration or anything. At the captain and leader at the club that makes a massive difference and even helps keep a lot of the younger players in check. I'm sure he wishes he still had Cech, Lampard and Drogba with him to spearhead the club's revival but now he's got the task of developing the next Chelsea core. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Exactly what yoh want to hear from yor captain. Bloke oozes solidarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Captain, Leader, Legend. MichaelDance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Needs to remain 'around' when his time is up, his sheer presence and experience can be massively influential to lads like Kurt and possibly Stones if we bring him in. stroey, mccg and Reddish-Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Another sloppy clearance yesterday lead to ball coming back in without Cahill and rest getting organised ,he got away with 1 on Tuesday, thought he would have been 100% concentrated even more down to 10men,but that kinda sums up season,all little things mount up when your luck is down . Vybz Kartel and manpe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Poor defending on Andys goal - he was marking the ball not the player and ended up leaving azpi on Andy ... An obvious mismatch Disappointing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 For all Jose being the special 1, i cant believe he hasnt tried Terry Cahill Zouma as 3 cbs with Azpil+Baba as rb&lb ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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