Kez 2,727 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Nah FB I think it's what BL said, he doesn't even need to say he's staying cause it's crazy to think he'd even leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemBlueBob 0 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I do not fault the man for wanting a raise. Everyone here that works would (at least I think) do what needs to be done to get a raise. But, I think we all would try to do it in a respectful way if we had worked for the same company for many years. I try not too hard to get on Terry because maybe we don't know the entire story about when City actually approached him, etc..... If he officially has turned them down now and we move on....I am happy on the whole I suspect a good bit of the "He is leaving" articles were just over-exaggerations anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,320 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Nah FB I think it's what BL said, he doesn't even need to say he's staying cause it's crazy to think he'd even leave. Thats a bit of a cop out to be fair, saying he doesnt need to say anything. Whilst I think it would be great if he stayed, I'm trying to detach myself from the emotional hero worship bollox. Yes, hes been an exemplary servant of the club -and hes always been a fans man. By that I mean he would speak to fans anywhere, gave 100% and even gave a lift to freind in his Bentley. But if he, or more likely, his advisors (who will be in for a big percentage of the arabs money should he move), think they can screw CFC for more dosh i think we should cash in. For Man City and their owners, the biggest coup they can pull off -bigger than Kaka, Robinho etc would be the current England captain - and as I said for an increasingly suspect, slowing 28 year old £40-£50 million should not be sniffed at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemBlueBob 0 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 But if he, or more likely, his advisors (who will be in for a big percentage of the arabs money should he move), think they can screw CFC for more dosh i think we should cash in. Hell no Pay what he wants and move on. Our window with some of our current players is closing.....we are a MUCH better team with Terry. Let's suck up our pride and pay the man and move on because as a team, we will be MUCH better off with him than without him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I can see what you're saying FB, No player is bigger than the club, but he his leadership skills are irreplaceable and we should do all we can to keep him at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,320 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Hell no Pay what he wants and move on. Our window with some of our current players is closing.....we are a MUCH better team with Terry. Let's suck up our pride and pay the man and move on because as a team, we will be MUCH better off with him than without him Goes without saying, but some games last season he was easily outpaced. I'm sure Man City fans wanted to 'suck up their pride' and pay SWP when we poached him, but there comes a point when this could escalate beyond reasonable proportions. OK so we pay him 180 k a week or whatever because Man City offer him more -do we do the same to Drogba because Man City offer him 300k a week, Lampard ? Essien ? No, I agree we DO move on.... and cash in. He will halve in value and become slower -his silence is deafening to fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Goes without saying, but some games last season he was easily outpaced. I'm sure Man City fans wanted to 'suck up their pride' and pay SWP when we poached him, but there comes a point when this could escalate beyond reasonable proportions. OK so we pay him 180 k a week or whatever because Man City offer him more -do we do the same to Drogba because Man City offer him 300k a week, Lampard ? Essien ? No, I agree we DO move on.... and cash in. He will halve in value and become slower -his silence is deafening to fans. I agree 100% lets sell him and invest in yoof ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemBlueBob 0 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) There is no comparison between our situation and City's with SWP because they weren't even close to being in a position of a title front-runner like us and that is the whole point of what I am saying. If Terry leaves, we suddenly have a big question mark that POSSIBLY could be dealt with but who wants to take that chance given how close we are? We give the man a raise and he stays and that situation is solved. As painful as it may be to us, it stops a bad situation from getting worse for this season. As for Drogba, Lampard, and Essien....if they are performing top level and we win this season, we should expect situations just like that to occur (maybe not those 3 exactly but players in general). It happens in football today. Money rules the world it seems. We will have to decide just whether the players are worth it or not. In terms of how CLOSE we are to being dominate + Terry's importance....giving the man the raise he wants is well worth it. Maybe come next season certain players getting raises from other teams will not be as important to our immediate future. Edited July 23, 2009 by SystemBlueBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I can see what you're saying FB, No player is bigger than the club, but he his leadership skills are irreplaceable and we should do all we can to keep him at the club. Skysports few weeks back posted stats which proved we have a better win% without Terry. As FB said, No Player is bigger than the Club. And it seems, if we give in to one player, others tend to follow the suit. Like Lamps last season, JT this season may be someone else would do it next season...The wages we pay to our players is ridiculous compared to Manchester United. And still they won a Champions League and 3 titles in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 BBC R5 this morning saying Citehs arab owners are far from giving up on Terry. They have sanctioned Hughes to offer up to £50 million and Terrys wages to be £1 million a month..... i would take £50m and keep Carvalho to replace him................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianfranco_Z 202 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I'm glad he is staying... Money can't replace his leadership. Iron man JT!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskoviolente 425 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Personally, I feel Terry's silence on the issue is because he doesn't feel he needs to say anything. I'm sure Terry is totally committed to the club and feels he doesn't need to make his voice heard because the club have said he is not for sale. exactly my point of view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) And tbh if he does stay he's staying media still gana make a big deal out of it so hopfully he'll just let them have their fun and then volia.Hughs will go away!! And if he does go...cue mass shirt burning along with the huge banner.... Edited July 23, 2009 by Laylabelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemBlueBob 0 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I doubt this story will be much of anything once everything becomes 100% official and he stays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Hopefully he stays and Huges gets sacked for being a twat. We should definately report them to FA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 According to the Daily Mail, now UEFA and Pricktini are getting involved Manchester United chief executive David Gill has warned big-spending Chelsea and Manchester City they face uncertain futures at the whim of billionaire owners who are lavishing millions on buying short-term success. With City poised to offer Chelsea £50million for captain John Terry and hand him £1m a month in wages, this summer has seen a staggering increase in the top money paid to the Barclays Premier League's star players. And the backlash against huge spending grew last night, with UEFA warning they are considering ways of disciplining clubs if they spend too much by banning them from European competition. In the wake of Sportsmail's revelations that City are wooing 28-year-old Terry with a £250,000 a week pay offer, Gill said: 'We're not in the market for 27, 28 or 29-year-olds for loads of money. It doesn't make sense. We have our own models and targets and we are operating within those. That's because we are operating for the medium and long term. 'We are not at the whim of someone pulling out and losing interest. You'd have to speak to those clubs about their plans for the medium and long term.' Gill defended United's decision not to spend all of the £80m they banked from the sale of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid and suggested he and manager Sir Alex Ferguson are protecting the club's long-term interests by not paying excessive wages and transfer fees Real seem determined to add Liverpool's unsettled Xabi Alonso to their collection of new galacticos. Sporting director Miguel Pardeza said: 'Alonso is not a fad.' Liverpool's valuation is £35m and Real have made a £25m bid, but Pardeza added: 'I've not given up hope we can solve this.' City are in the middle of a £150m spree and this has alarmed UEFA president Michel Platini, who wants a 'club financial control panel' to curb spending. He wants incentives for clubs to act within their means and disciplinary action for those who don't, with bans from European competition or points deductions. The proposals will be put forward next month and UEFA spokesman said: 'To be viable, salaries and transfers should be proportionate to the generated income. Clubs should invest in youth sectors, and use their homegrown talent to reinforce their squads.' It is suggested spending should be included as part of UEFA's club licensing system but the plan is likely to lead to more conflict with UEFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Come on, Terry isn't 100% sure he wants to stay at Chelsea, He would have came out and completly laughed off reports, and he does need to come out, as does any footballer when being strongly linked away to a club that can splash cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemBlueBob 0 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Yea, good luck banning clubs who spend too much I am sure that will really grow interest....have the best teams/players sitting out European matches That will solve it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseapaul 0 Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 He seems to of forgot the little matter that his club is more in debt than the pair of us.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Yeah...Right. Our owner has not stacked up his personal loans against our club. If glazers were to leave Man Utd, Man Utd would be under a debt of 800m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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