dodojojo 510 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 To clarify Terry is absolutely innocent until proven otherwise in my eyes. I may have not written my post better because it was about possible 'whys' and such since an official investigation has been launched. If the FA can not find definitely against Terry, he should be cleared and be left in good standing. So that's that. Sorry to say that he has lots of black friends and teammates reasoning isn't always airtight. Let's take Terry out of this just to make sure I'm not impugning him unfairly.So speaking generally, a person can say something in the heat of the moment that he may take care to not say around co-workers. Luis Aragones who disparaged Thierry Henry racially had black ex-players who stood up for the old coach and said he was like a father to them. Yet, he was 100% caught on camera describing Henry in a very crude and cringeworthy term. We're human, we are capable of contradictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Playing a racism card is pathetic.Elaborate, from which side are you speaking of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Elaborate, from which side are you speaking of?Falsely accusing someone being racist is just as bad as racism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Falsely accusing someone being racist is just as bad as racism.Agreed.It's not racist, if it was said. It is offensive though. But if QPR are reporting it, without Anton Ferdinand even confirming what was said, then you're very right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Don't conflate the referee's performance with the issue that Terry is being investigated for racist abuse.I'm talking about this:Chelsea and AVB hit with FA charge over QPR matchnot about Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Agreed.It's not racist, if it was said. It is offensive though. But if QPR are reporting it, without Anton Ferdinand even confirming what was said, then you're very right.Why aren't they reporting their own fans who enjoyed abusing JT's parents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Why aren't they reporting their own fans who enjoyed abusing JT's parents?They're all classless alike, that's why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I'm talking about this:Chelsea and AVB hit with FA charge over QPR matchnot about Terry.Okay, got ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Stan Collymore & Jason Roberts are being racially abused on Twitter atm, on the back of this Terry-Ferdinand issue.Absolutely disgusting some of these tweets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson 358 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Stan Collymore & Jason Roberts are being racially abused on Twitter atm, on the back of this Terry-Ferdinand issue.Absolutely disgusting some of these tweets.By Chelsea fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Stan Collymore & Jason Roberts are being racially abused on Twitter atm, on the back of this Terry-Ferdinand issue.Absolutely disgusting some of these tweets.Collymore with his record should never be on radio or tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 By Chelsea fans?I wouldn't be shocked if it was mate after what i heard at the Chelsea v Wigan match at the DW stadium i think it was in 2008. Avram grant was subject to Gas chamber noises it was vile and it shocked me at how many people were doing it. I don't think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I don't think Terry said anything like what they are portraying. He probably agreed with Ferdinand sarcastically that he did say black whatever. I doubt he would say it in a direct context because Ashley is really sensitive about these things, i remember against Spain when he was the most effected by the monkey chants even though SWP was the main attraction for those chants. Ashley kept giving the ball away as soon as he heard the chants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Now supposedly Ferdinand said "I need to hear the truth for myself about what happened on the pitch". WTF does that mean? Did he hear it or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2053479/Ashley-Cole-key-John-Terry-race-row.htmlNever a dull moment at Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Now supposedly Ferdinand said "I need to hear the truth for myself about what happened on the pitch". WTF does that mean? Did he hear it or not?Apparently the guy's having second thoughts after seeing the video, and has encouraged an FA probe into the matter....The funny thing is people claim they want to stamp racism out of the game. Fair enough. But why the heck do they want to make something out of a non-issue and arouse public sentiments for no reason? It only makes matters worse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 By Chelsea fans?Perhaps. It's unclear, I'm sure there's a few.Collymore with his record should never be on radio or tvStill no reason to be racially abused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Comment: If John Terry loses this fight, he will be finishedRead more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2053470/John-Terry-comment-If-loses-fight-finished.html#ixzz1bqbxKDT2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Oh Johnny my man I feel your pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EskWeston 696 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 This has been quite amazing it has gone to this stage even considering the witch hunts Chelsea have had to deal with over the years. Some spotty faced gimp posts a video on the internet which clearly shows JT saying "blind" and not "black" (which i might add totally adds in with the context of that game) which the author of the video is claiming and all hell breaks lose.Even more outrageous it would seem (unsurprisingly) that Ferdinand never heard any racist comment, yet it is still under investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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