The Conte Thread

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

You gys don' realise how good of a coach Conte is. Lets look at the team; 

            Azpi        Christensen    Cahill

Moses  Fabregas  Kante   Baka   Alonso

                             Hazard 

                             Mortars

 

Defence; last year he had a shit defence, just look back to that 10th place position before. This year he has dropped Luis for Christensen. Good move. Also, Rudiger is much more mobile, aggressive and btter on the ball than Cahill. 

Midfield: the worst midfield in the top 6 by a country mile. FUCK ME. This is pretty much the reason Conte's hands are tied. Moses is a fucking Terrible wingback. Can't even take a player on anymore. Or dribble. So what the hell does he bring? He can't defend he just stands in line with the defenders. Even when the opposition mirror our formation  he STILL has to be told, a year on, to press the fucking wingback. Zappscosta isn't much better (But just to hammer home how shit Moses was, how much better was our attack at the Emirates when Davide came on). Fabregas has got EVEN SLOWER. Unfortunately, he just isn't capable in a midfield 2 anymore in the PL. Still our best passer by a country mile. Kante 👊💪👍. That is all. Bakayoko is not good enough for the PL. No more needs to be said. His total contribution to our team accumulates to us having a handicap of 10 players. Oh, did I mention our mdfield was already in trouble anyway? Alonso: slow, defensively weak but pretty decent going forward. Can't cross though. 

Hazard: no words needed, we know him

Morata: huge step down from Costa. A number of games where he whines and moans. Can' shoot for shit. Doesn't matter whether it's outside the box or 1 on 1. Good header of the ball though. 

So what exactly is Conte to do?! Play a midfield 2? Who partners Kante? Fabregas can't do it and if Baka is on the pitch it' basically Kante by himself. We were out muscled last year when he had Matic! Drinkwater seems the only option. But Leiceser only won the title by sitting back! 

He hs shit options. Play a midfield 3 and be more solid or play 2 and get overrun. 

For My money, the 3 at the back has had it's day. Moses and Alonso aren't good enough and we don't have Ivanovic/Terry/Luiz. The big problem is the transition. That is HUGE and takes time. 

Azpi      Rudiger      Christensen   Alonso

                   Drinkwater       Kante

     Barkley                                  willian 

                               Hazard

                               Morata

[El P. 1,354]

Conte: "chelsea players are tired...."
Really?!
So last season we won the league only because we played once a week?
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42677626?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport
 

Because we played once a week, and because we had no competition, yes.

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11 hours ago, Miki-Liki said:

Seems like we've been rebuilding the squad since 2012, every year it's the same excuse. We're not rebuilding anything, we're shite.

Stop overreacting ffs. Many clubs would love to be in the position we are in at the moment. 3rd in the league, in all three cup competitions (including one win away from a final), we are in a privileged position and people need to start realising it. 

[Miki-Liki 405]

Shite team in a decent position.* Better?

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Laylabelle 9,535]

3 hours ago, It's too big said:

Stop overreacting ffs. Many clubs would love to be in the position we are in at the moment. 3rd in the league, in all three cup competitions (including one win away from a final), we are in a privileged position and people need to start realising it. 

For now.... Thing is Liverpool win today we're 4th in the league and 3 points above 5th..

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2 minutes ago, Mana said:

And deservedly so. Until we sort ourselves out and actually play football, there's no way Spuds and Liverpool should be below us. Chelsea at the moment isn't good enough.

That's the thing if Liverpool had sorted out their defence out start of the season they'd be way way above us.  Spurs are just spurs.. One game good one game alwful but finding their feet. Agree we're where we should be.. Just. 

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

He's been fed shit since he came. Didn't extend his contract but said thank you very much I'll take more money. Atrocious summer where the first 11 and squad as a whole was weakened. Just like I'd still support Hazard if he (understandably) left for a team that reflects his talent, the same would be for Antonio. 

[J.F. 1,484]

Sacking Conte would be one of the worst decisions ever made by Abramovic

[Henrique 9,133]

I think the big question right now is: will Conte survive until Barcelona clash at the end of february? He is pretty much 2 or 3 bad results away from the sack.

[Unionjack 7,531]

10 minutes ago, Henrique said:

I think the big question right now is: will Conte survive until Barcelona clash at the end of february? He is pretty much 2 or 3 bad results away from the sack.

Fuck all that we do fails to suprize me any more.I think that sacking Ancelotte made me realize just what a hard bastard Roman can be.

[Laylabelle 9,535]

Good luck to whoever takes over should he go... Nothing is gana change as it hasn't changed since Jose.. Want players... Lol get what your given! 

[xPetrCechx 13,571]

In the CL? wait a few weeks and we will be out.

Wlell in the cups? 0-0 with Norwich and 0-0 with Arsenal B at home are good results?...

[Antonio8 736]

attacking players chelsea has:  morata, bats, pedro, willian, hazard.

 only a blind board could not see the problem 

 

[Cosmin 2,484]

21 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

 

 

Wlell in the cups? 0-0 with Norwich and 0-0 with Arsenal B at home are good results?...

Yes, considering the context of the competitions. We'll trash Norwich on Wednesday at the Bridge and we can easily score on Emirates. 0-0 at home is always a decent result on the first leg.

Remember that Barcelona Ovrebo kicked us out of the UCL after us drawing 0-0 on Nou Camp. 0-0 in the first leg, home, means that for every goal that you score away, your opponent needs to score two. 

0-0 at home is the less harmful draw that you can get when it comes to playing two legs. 

I am confident that we'll go through in both of the competitions. 

Regarding UCL, there's still one month until the first leg of that double. A lot can change in the meantime. We won't be sucking forever, will we? 

[xPetrCechx 13,571]

Yes, considering the context of the competitions. We'll trash Norwich on Wednesday at the Bridge and we can easily score on Emirates. 0-0 at home is always a decent result on the first leg.
Remember that Barcelona Ovrebo kicked us out of the UCL after us drawing 0-0 on Nou Camp. 0-0 in the first leg, home, means that for every goal that you score away, your opponent needs to score two. 
0-0 at home is the less harmful draw that you can get when it comes to playing two legs. 
I am confident that we'll go through in both of the competitions. 
Regarding UCL, there's still one month until the first leg of that double. A lot can change in the meantime. We won't be sucking forever, will we? 

No away goals in Carabao cup till Extra time.

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6 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

No away goals in Carabao cup till Extra time.

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Oh right. Forgot about that. 

I am confident that we can get a result there anyways.

I mean look at the games. In the League, we clearly had the bigger chances, we should've won that game at the Emirates. 

And in the first leg, we should've also beaten them at the Bridge.

We're clearly the better team and we just need to score. It just cannot go this bad forever. We have to start scoring at some point and I'm sure that that moment will come very soon.

To be fair, despite the goal drought and despite the fact that a lot of people talk about a crisis at Chelsea, remember that we lost 0 games out of the last 10. 5 draws and 5 wins, I have to agree that it's not something to be super excited about, but still we're in a so-called crisis in which we're not actually losing games. 

This is our record for this season: 20-9-6. It's really not that bad. I mean we could've done better, but it's not that bad. People are overreacting. 

[Laylabelle 9,535]

Even though we shouldve had penalties in the Barca game there were so many chances we didn't take.. Can see there being a repeat this time. If we keep messing up in front of goal they'll definitely punish us for it. 

We just seem so slow! And whenever is a chance it goes back to the goalie way way to often what's the point.. It cant last forever but does feel like it is... 

[King11Didier 916]

"Fans" are calling for his head, but they do not realize that won't change much, another one will come, will probably bring some success for a year and then the same will happen, people will want him to be sacked and knowing Roman's patiece, he will be. Unless the board changes and bring some quality players, or at least bring 2 players that the manager really wants through the summer window, the scenario would still be the same. And of course I am talking to have faith in someone who has done something for the club and showed that he really understands what is he doing, before having so much faith in him. Conte did this, he had the balls to do some big decisions, change the style of play, introduce a stable game plan with 3 defenders and won the title in his first season in England when no body expected that and everybody was thinking the PL will be decided between the manchester clubs. Antonio deserves far more faith from the board for what he has done and the club will only lose a really good manager if they sack him.

Another thing that really get on my nerves is when the board is spending millions on some players like Bakayoko, Drinkwater, Barkley and are trying to bring in players like Carroll, when they have one of the best youth academies in the world! So many talented players, who are above the level of u19, u21 teams, lost, are losing and are going to lose so much by going in Chelsea's game of loans.. So much talent was wasted through the years and nothing changes, Chelsea may really have one of the best academies in the world, but when it comes for these players to make the step to the professionals, Chelsea are treating them in the worst way.

People are saying, we are not showing an ambition anymore with our transfers and we don't spend so much money as before, because we want to reconstruct the stadium, or be in regulations of FFP, or whatever, okay, I get it, but if it this the reason the club doesn't want to spend big money, why they don't bring some youngsters from the academy? The latest examples are: We are interested in someone like Carroll, when Hudson-Odoi is on fire for the development team. Instead of Bakayoko we had Chalobah, who can't do any worse than the ex Monaco player, I am sure that even players like Colkett or Mount who are on loan at Vitesse would at least play with passion and give everything, because they have grown up by wearing the Chelsea shirt and will be pleased to finally reaching the 1st team after years and years of sweating and hard working through the academies of the club.

I can get it that bringing young players to the 1st team also depends a lot to the manager and he might be a reason for that not happening and that is leading to the next thing on my mind. It seems like Conte won't be in Chelsea after the summer, too much differences between his ideas and board ones, it seems, then I really hope that the one who they will bring to succeed him, will be someone who likes to work with young players and it's not afraid of playing them often.
The post suddenly became so big, that no one will read it At least I posted some of the things I wanted to say.
Win or lose(or draw lately) Up the Blues!

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

6 hours ago, King11Didier said:

"Fans" are calling for his head, but they do not realize that won't change much, another one will come, will probably bring some success for a year and then the same will happen, people will want him to be sacked and knowing Roman's patiece, he will be. Unless the board changes and bring some quality players, or at least bring 2 players that the manager really wants through the summer window, the scenario would still be the same. And of course I am talking to have faith in someone who has done something for the club and showed that he really understands what is he doing, before having so much faith in him. Conte did this, he had the balls to do some big decisions, change the style of play, introduce a stable game plan with 3 defenders and won the title in his first season in England when no body expected that and everybody was thinking the PL will be decided between the manchester clubs. Antonio deserves far more faith from the board for what he has done and the club will only lose a really good manager if they sack him.

Another thing that really get on my nerves is when the board is spending millions on some players like Bakayoko, Drinkwater, Barkley and are trying to bring in players like Carroll, when they have one of the best youth academies in the world! So many talented players, who are above the level of u19, u21 teams, lost, are losing and are going to lose so much by going in Chelsea's game of loans.. So much talent was wasted through the years and nothing changes, Chelsea may really have one of the best academies in the world, but when it comes for these players to make the step to the professionals, Chelsea are treating them in the worst way.

People are saying, we are not showing an ambition anymore with our transfers and we don't spend so much money as before, because we want to reconstruct the stadium, or be in regulations of FFP, or whatever, okay, I get it, but if it this the reason the club doesn't want to spend big money, why they don't bring some youngsters from the academy? The latest examples are: We are interested in someone like Carroll, when Hudson-Odoi is on fire for the development team. Instead of Bakayoko we had Chalobah, who can't do any worse than the ex Monaco player, I am sure that even players like Colkett or Mount who are on loan at Vitesse would at least play with passion and give everything, because they have grown up by wearing the Chelsea shirt and will be pleased to finally reaching the 1st team after years and years of sweating and hard working through the academies of the club.

I can get it that bringing young players to the 1st team also depends a lot to the manager and he might be a reason for that not happening and that is leading to the next thing on my mind. It seems like Conte won't be in Chelsea after the summer, too much differences between his ideas and board ones, it seems, then I really hope that the one who they will bring to succeed him, will be someone who likes to work with young players and it's not afraid of playing them often.
The post suddenly became so big, that no one will read it At least I posted some of the things I wanted to say.
Win or lose(or draw lately) Up the Blues!

Exactly.  Trying to have their cake and eat it too.  Be cheap, but win now.  Doesn't work like that.  If you don't want to spend to bring the quality in, at least bring through the youth so we can get excited about our youngsters and see what they can do.  Blocking their progress with top tier players is one thing.  Blocking their way with mediocrity is the worst of both worlds.