El P. 1,354 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 If we don't get top striker, we MUST get goalscoring right-winger. There's no point in having great midfield with no one to score. Golovin, Kante and Jorginho are really average at goalscoring too. We could survive with either Morata or Giroud, but not with Willian or old Pedro. Actually, younger Pedro would be ideal for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I thought this was one of those lazy rumours. Sarri has managed him before so lets link him with Sarri's new club. But i actually think there might be something in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 hour ago, ChelseaFanUK said: I thought this was one of those lazy rumours. Sarri has managed him before so lets link him with Sarri's new club. But i actually think there might be something in it Me too. Like the Bonucci and Chiellini rumours when Conte joined. I'm hoping that this ends up in a similar fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 If we don't get top striker, we MUST get goalscoring right-winger. There's no point in having great midfield with no one to score. Golovin, Kante and Jorginho are really average at goalscoring too. We could survive with either Morata or Giroud, but not with Willian or old Pedro. Actually, younger Pedro would be ideal for us.We should be after both, if either Morata or Michy are getting sold. Shaqiri was there for the taking at a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 1 minute ago, LAM09 said: We should be after both, if either Morata or Michy are getting sold. Shaqiri was there for the taking at a bargain. Shaqiri is very overrated. Would rather keep Willian over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Shaqiri is very overrated. Would rather keep Willian over him.For £13m? There isn't better value to be had in the EPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Just now, LAM09 said: For £13m? There isn't better value to be had in the EPL. Why go for value when we're looking to strengthen the first team? They needed a backup for Salah and for them, it's fair. But when our RIght Winger isn't a very good goalscorer, I wouldn't be punting on another Right Winger who isn't a great goalscorer himself. May as well sell Willian for 55 and invest a little more to get a much better goalscorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Why go for value when we're looking to strengthen the first team? They needed a backup for Salah and for them, it's fair. But when our RIght Winger isn't a very good goalscorer, I wouldn't be punting on another Right Winger who isn't a great goalscorer himself. May as well sell Willian for 55 and invest a little more to get a much better goalscorer.We need options as well. 2 proper wingers is unacceptable (providing Willian's sold). Selling Willian for 55m, spend 13m on Shaqiri and 40m at least on a starting option. Made perfect sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Just now, LAM09 said: We need options as well. 2 proper wingers is unacceptable (providing Willian's sold). Selling Willian for 55m, spend 13m on Shaqiri and 40m at least on a starting option. Made perfect sense And who would that 40 million player be? And are we forgetting about Pedro? I'd rather have a Martial or a Bailey over a winger around 40 million (someone like Felipe Anderson cause he's worth 40 in today's market) and Shaqiri. Quality over Quantity always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 60 million if the figure mentioned around is right would be a really bad value IMO. I'd rather we get Martial even if it means sending Willian the other way. I don't mind if we overpay for talent and youth, but paying high fees for the likes of Higuain and Giroud is a bad investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 And who would that 40 million player be? And are we forgetting about Pedro? I'd rather have a Martial or a Bailey over a winger around 40 million (someone like Felipe Anderson cause he's worth 40 in today's market) and Shaqiri. Quality over Quantity always. Hazard plus Pedro makes 2, or are you classing Moses as a winger? We aren't getting Martial for our transfer budget and 40m should be more than enough to wrap up a deal for Bailey, especially considering Bayer finishing 5th. Lozano could also be an interesting proposition in the price bracket. Think some are forgetting our the board is still in place; only expect big money signings, if cash is coming in first. In addition, value doesn't always equate to quality. 60 million if the figure mentioned around is right would be a really bad value IMO. I'd rather we get Martial even if it means sending Willian the other way. I don't mind if we overpay for talent and youth, but paying high fees for the likes of Higuain and Giroud is a bad investment. 15m~ for Giroud was great business tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Hazard plus Pedro makes 2, or are you classing Moses as a winger? We aren't getting Martial for our transfer budget and 40m should be more than enough to wrap up a deal for Bailey, especially considering Bayer finishing 5th. Lozano could also be an interesting proposition in the price bracket. Think some are forgetting our the board is still in place; only expect big money signings, if cash is coming in first. In addition, value doesn't always equate to quality. 15m~ for Giroud was great business tbh. Bailey for 40? I'd buy you a pint if he moved for 40 million.. Value doesn't equate to quality for sure and I agree to it. But we can't be playing value game and buy Shaqiri and a 40 million winger (PS. Not gonna be Bailey) to replace Willian. We will not have an upgrade at all, rather, just 2 more players, one of whom is Shaqiri and he doesn't deserve to start for a top 6 club here. The other 40 million winger will have to be really good, but I can't see any realistic 40 million quality wingers at this point of time. Anyway, a lot of this is hypothetical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Bailey for 40? I'd buy you a pint if he moved for 40 million.. Value doesn't equate to quality for sure and I agree to it. But we can't be playing value game and buy Shaqiri and a 40 million winger (PS. Not gonna be Bailey) to replace Willian. We will not have an upgrade at all, rather, just 2 more players, one of whom is Shaqiri and he doesn't deserve to start for a top 6 club here. The other 40 million winger will have to be really good, but I can't see any realistic 40 million quality wingers at this point of time. Anyway, a lot of this is hypothetical.Just for reference, how much do you value at Bailey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,418 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 1 hour ago, LAM09 said: 1 hour ago, AK-3001 said: Bailey for 40? I'd buy you a pint if he moved for 40 million.. Value doesn't equate to quality for sure and I agree to it. But we can't be playing value game and buy Shaqiri and a 40 million winger (PS. Not gonna be Bailey) to replace Willian. We will not have an upgrade at all, rather, just 2 more players, one of whom is Shaqiri and he doesn't deserve to start for a top 6 club here. The other 40 million winger will have to be really good, but I can't see any realistic 40 million quality wingers at this point of time. Anyway, a lot of this is hypothetical. Just for reference, how much do you value at Bailey? Bayer value him higher than 40m in fact their price tag is closer to 70m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Sounds like Morata going the other way in this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Sounds like Morata going the other way in this deal. So we spend big on a striker a year ago, are doing it again now and will have to do it again in 2 years ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 This is the kind of business we should never do. I‘d rather start with batshuayi than buy a 30y.o. in decline for 50n plus. This has sheva written all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 I feel like Morata can do just as good of a job as Higuain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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