Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I find it absolutely fucking hilarious how some don't want pep here. My fucking word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 My question is, what state will we find ourselves once Pep goes?Guardian reported today Guardiola feels we're at least 10-players short of where we 'need to be'. Once we sign these players for astronomical figures, will we be left in the same mess we were when Mourinho left in 2007?For all of Van Gaal's flaws, it's noted that United are looking at a bigger picture. They're already thought to have been preparing for 2017, post-Van Gaal. That's the sort of attitude our board needs to adopt. Not by looking for a long-term manager, but by creating a long-term plan. In the modern game, esp in England, the manager in now a coach. Less power over transfers and general day-to-day club-related activities, more just take the squad you're given and do something with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I would like to understand why Simeone seems the favorite of many. I'm afraid its only based on the stereotype that Chelsea is team suited to managers that play a "solid/defensive" football than the ones who play an attacking style, and that stereotype itself is based in years and years of a conservative Special One.Simeone is a badass coach. He instills a confidence in his players and his players love him. Why would you not want him here after what he's done at Atletico?Simeone will probably go to Real though if Jose doesn't. I find it absolutely fucking hilarious how some don't want pep here. My fucking word.I'd take him. But he's not my first choice. He's kind of an asshole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Top of the pecking order for me would be Diego Simeone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thendo 1,088 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Not a fan of his, but I can understand why so many want him here. Don't think we have much of a chance though when both of the Manchester teams probably will be looking his way in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowhereman 7 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 i think some people don't want Pep here because they consider him being here an insult to mourinho and his legacy. i mean there is a bitter history between these two and their football styles are the polar opposites of each other.personally i'd be overjoyed if Pep would agree to manage chelsea but I don't see that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Would not be the right manager for us. We just don't have that kind of quality, would mean more or less complete overhaul within the club and not only in the playing squad. While there are things we can improve attacking wise and being more fluid, then tika-taka is not for Chelsea. Simone or Koeman for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 i think some people don't want Pep here because they consider him being here an insult to mourinho and his legacy. i mean there is a bitter history between these two and their football styles are the polar opposites of each other.personally i'd be overjoyed if Pep would agree to manage chelsea but I don't see that happening.And cause Pep is a cunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 "Kalle (Rummenigge) knows absolutely everything," said Guardiola."The club, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge and I have said time and time again that we will say something after our final game in Hannover, and that's how things are going to stay."I'm just focusing on Hannover. I've been watching their games."He's quoted as saying he knows what he's doing in the future but won't release the details until his last game against Hannover. Since they're playing Hannover this weekend, people seem to think he's going to release the details this weekend. He said FINAL game, which is against Hannover in May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I find it absolutely fucking hilarious how some don't want pep here. My fucking word.Why? He's been successful where he's managed, but at Barcelona, he was always chastised for boring games, and he hasn't had the best relationship in Germany.I get that he brings success, but Simeone seems like he would be a better fit in the Premier League and a better fit if it's consistency that you want.Guardiola is like Mourinho, but with an attacking mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Why? He's been successful where he's managed, but at Barcelona, he was always chastised for boring games, and he hasn't had the best relationship in Germany.I get that he brings success, but Simeone seems like he would be a better fit in the Premier League and a better fit if it's consistency that you want.Guardiola is like Mourinho, but with an attacking mentality.Simeone is Atletico through and through, he won't leave. Guardiola develops a philosophy within a club and transitions youth into the first team. Mourinho is a cheque book manager who relies on a 'do not lose' structure and tactic that bleeds negativity. They are not even close in regards to managing a club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1chelsea 864 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Since we been watching boring football with Jose and many are complaining about it let do the pep tiki taka thing since it the best brand of football many here grave for >\£~^{>\?\,\$_£^{+\#$|>$~........jargon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Simeone is Atletico through and through, he won't leave. Guardiola develops a philosophy within a club and transitions youth into the first team. Mourinho is a cheque book manager who relies on a 'do not lose' structure and tactic that bleeds negativity. They are not even close in regards to managing a club.You mean pass the ball around until the other team falls asleep? Possession hasn't helped this team at all this season.Mourinho has a philosophy as well. Lock down the defense and play on the counter. He went away from that this season and look what's happened. It's only negative if you're not winning.It's also foolish to accuse Mourinho of being a chequebook manager and not attribute that to Guardiola as well. Just look at the teams he's managed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 We don't need Pep at this point in time we need someone with experience of building teams with good man management to help us improve from a bad situation.He has only managed teams with a good array of players. The Chelsea job would chew him up and spit him back out, no shits given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi1691 255 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I find it absolutely fucking hilarious how some don't want pep here. My fucking word.Pep is overrated, and anyone who watched Chelsea in 2009 will know Pep is a dirty rat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 We don't need Pep at this point in time we need someone with experience of building teams with good man management to help us improve from a bad situation.He has only managed teams with a good array of players. The Chelsea job would chew him up and spit him back out, no shits given.People seem oblivious to the fact pep needs money. If he's not working with Messi, Iniesta and Xavi it's Robben, Ribery and Lewandowski. If pep walked into tomorrow, are football would not become fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I highly doubt that he's coming here. Even if he did, I doubt he would have the effect that a lot of people are expecting. From this article: https://www.theblizzard.co.uk/articles/the-devils-party-part-2/When Barca were trying to choose between Pep and Jose:...the club had set out nine criteria by which prospective candidates were judged: 1. Respect for the sports-management model and the role of the technical director2. Playing style3. Promoting the right values in the first team and paying special attention to the development of young talent4. Training and performance5. Proactive management of the dressing-room6. Other responsibilities with, and commitment to, the club, including maintaining a conservative profile and avoiding overuse of the media7. Experience as a player and a coach at the highest level8. Support for the good governance of the club9. Knowledge of the Spanish league, the club and European competition. I don't think we have anything like this at our club, which is why things seem a bit haphazard some times. This also suggests that Pep merely facilitated the ethos of the club down to the pitch, and he's done the same at Bayern. He didn't create Barca, which is what people seem to want him to do here. The identity comes from the board down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossie the King 634 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I highly doubt that he's coming here. Even if he did, I doubt he would have the effect that a lot of people are expecting. From this article: https://www.theblizzard.co.uk/articles/the-devils-party-part-2/When Barca were trying to choose between Pep and Jose:...the club had set out nine criteria by which prospective candidates were judged:1. Respect for the sports-management model and the role of the technical director2. Playing style3. Promoting the right values in the first team and paying special attention to the development of young talent4. Training and performance5. Proactive management of the dressing-room6. Other responsibilities with, and commitment to, the club, including maintaining a conservative profile and avoiding overuse of the media7. Experience as a player and a coach at the highest level8. Support for the good governance of the club9. Knowledge of the Spanish league, the club and European competition.I don't think we have anything like this at our club, which is why things seem a bit haphazard some times.This also suggests that Pep merely facilitated the ethos of the club down to the pitch, and he's done the same at Bayern. He didn't create Barca, which is what people seem to want him to do here. The identity comes from the board down.Mate....that is a perfect post. That sums up the superficiality of the 'get Pep' argument.We aren't Barcelona. We aren't Bayern. We aren't even Man City. We have no values as a club, we have no ethos, we have no identity.We need that first and then we need a manager that fits, not the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Mate....that is a perfect post. That sums up the superficiality of the 'get Pep' argument.We aren't Barcelona. We aren't Bayern. We aren't even Man City. We have no values as a club, we have no ethos, we have no identity.We need that first and then we need a manager that fits, not the other way around.Look at who are making decisions at those clubs, then look at us. No football people on the board. If we don't get Pep, we may as well get De Boer but his name doesn't seem to show up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Pep Guardiola will be appointed as Manchester City manager next summer, according to former Bayern Munich coach Ottmar Hitzfeld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.