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Man of the Match  

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  1. 1. Who is your Man of the Match?

    • Begovic
    • Azpilicueta
    • Cahill
    • Terry
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    • Baba Rahman
    • Matic
      0
    • Fabregas
    • Hazard
    • Oscar
    • Willian
    • Costa
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    • Pedro (sub)
      0
    • Zouma (sub)
      0
    • Remy (sub)
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Have the rules changed? I thought if we finished with a draw Porto you we first based in head to head gold difference. This is assuming dynamo don't draw.

Nope. The first tiebreaker in the H2H record if 2 teams are level on points is the number of points collected from the two matches. So a draw with Porto will mean they have the better H2H record against us because they got 4 points while we got only 1.

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In the case of all the 3 teams finishing with 11 points. Does Goal difference among the '3'teams played come into consideration or the 'overall' Goal difference of the group stage matters?

The former - http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/20753-ucl-qualification-permutations-and-combinations/?p=1180085

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Nope. The first tiebreaker in the H2H record if 2 teams are level on points is the number of points collected from the two matches. So a draw with Porto will mean they have the better H2H record against us because they got 4 points while we got only 1.

and they only got 1 v Kiev and kiev only got 1 v us......next stage is?
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We need at least one point against porto at SB. Drama to the end. I love chelsea.

Btw this reminds me of 2012 season when we needed to win in order to get through. And back then we won and even finished first, but if we lost we would be out. Something similar is now. We win and we finish first in group, we lose and kiev goes through. If we get through the groups we are gonna win the CL guys. History dont lie.

Wonderful game from Hazard, Baba and Willian.

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I'll take what TalkChelsea published and complete the weirdest scenario, you're welcome :ph34r:

And yea I really have nothing to do with my life :ph34r:

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Most Complex Scenario : Chelsea draw and Kiev win --> All teams level on 11 pts --> Points gained, then goal difference, then goals scored to rank the three teams, based on the matches played between them exclusively, as stated by the Uefa Rules.

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To sum it up :

  • No matter the score of the draw with Porto, it is 1 pt for each, and it doesn't change the particular goal difference between the teams.
  • If we do draw AND Dynamo fail to beat Maccabi, we qualify automatically second behind Porto, because they own us in th Head to head. -> Porto has been the best in our direct games with them.
  • If we do draw AND Dynamo win, NO MATTER THE SCORE, we qualify second. --> Dynamo have been the best in the games played between the three teams.

It might seem a little complex, but it really isn't.

  • Win, we go first, automatically.
  • Draw, we go second, if Kiev win in this case, they go first, if they fail to win, Porto goes first.
  • Lose, we're out ( it's pretty certain that Kiev will beat Maccabi.. )
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I am 1/3rd of the way through this match and I really hope there's more pentration after the red card for Fat Tally.

How pathetic can football get? Diego Costa, already in the midst of diving, gets kicked a second time in succession by a clumsy Israeli defender. Just awful.

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