termninja 5,290 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Really disappointed with him in the CS. Paassenger in the game and an absolutely needless tackle that gave that con-ref a choice. I think it is safe to say he lost us that "trophy" and more importantly that we lost to one of our biggest rivals in a really embarrassing fashion. After the season he has had he should have done better. I got no problem with his attitude. That tackle was full of work rate, passion and commitement. Yes, sometimes playing like that will get you sent of, but I prefer that then to have him jogging around waiting for our team to win a ball. And it was for a yellow card anyway. I have a conspiracy theory, red card was given in order to increase probability of penalties so they could be tested. communicate and mediator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Sh0n3x said: I got no problem with his attitude. That tackle was full of work rate, passion and commitement. Yes, sometimes playing like that will get you sent of, but I prefer that then to have him jogging around waiting for our team to win a ball. And it was for a yellow card anyway. I have a conspiracy theory, red card was given in order to increase probability of penalties so they could be tested. maybe you are right. But the tackle was reckless with open studs nowhere near the ball. There was no need to foul the player we were in full control of the match they did not get a sniff of our goal. If he does not make that tackle we win the match. And it was not that Pedro was any useful in the match. He was going to be subbed off anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Sh0n3x said: I have a conspiracy theory, red card was given in order to increase probability of penalties so they could be tested. . Is it April 1st ?. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 So is he banned from burnley game ? Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, communicate said: So is he banned from burnley game ? Â Â No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Got mixed reports initially, but apparently he's not banned. Looked like he injured his hamstring in that tackle so he may be out anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said: No. Lol so community shield is really just a friendly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, communicate said: Lol so community shield is really just a friendly Of course what the hell did you think it was?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said: Of course what the hell did you think it was?. But it still gets you a trophy so our aspiration should be to win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 48 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: But it still gets you a trophy so our aspiration should be to win it. It's a friendly the purpose of the match is to raise money for charity as seen by yesterday's minutes silence for Grenfell tower. Take the giving of a shield away and what have you got a 90 minute friendly simple as. When Vialli was sacked all opposition fans pissed themselves when it was said he won five trophies one was the charity shield one the super cup. These games have become more scrutinised rightly or wrongly because of the media's obsession with football.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said: It's a friendly the purpose of the match is to raise money for charity as seen by yesterday's minutes silence for Grenfell tower. Take the giving of a shield away and what have you got a 90 minute friendly simple as. When Vialli was sacked all opposition fans pissed themselves when it was said he won five trophies one was the charity shield one the super cup. These games have become more scrutinised rightly or wrongly because of the media's obsession with football.  But you have to look at the bigge rpicutre. We lost to one of our biggest rivals in a derby that kicks off the season in embarrassing fashion. we have lost in the shield 2010,2012,2015 and 2017. We lost the FA Cup final, the Super cup in 2012 and 2013 as well as the Worlc club in 2012. We hae been horrednous at these kind of mini trophies. Yeah they are unimportant but it would still be better to win them. A great way to kick off the season. It might only be a shield but it is handed by the FA and it is in wembley. It is a glorified freindly, but every trophy is just a piece of medal handed out after a number of glorified games. Also with very few exceptions a lost CS is a sign of a bad season to follow. The writing is on the wall and ahs been for months now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: , but every trophy is just a piece of medal handed out after a number of glorified games Doesn't make a lot of sense are you comparing the champions league to the charity shield ?. It's not set in stone that if you don't win the charity shield you'll have a shit season. Are you saying that Arsenal are going to be brilliant and we are going to be terrible because we lost a friendly on penalties after losing a player to a dubious decision?. We didn't play well yesterday but to be fretting that we are going to have a piss poor season because of yesterday is stretching credibility. We need a few new players that's a given but after losing 3-0 to Arsenal did anyone expect us to win the league ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: But you have to look at the bigge rpicutre. We lost to one of our biggest rivals in a derby that kicks off the season in embarrassing fashion. we have lost in the shield 2010,2012,2015 and 2017. We lost the FA Cup final, the Super cup in 2012 and 2013 as well as the Worlc club in 2012. We hae been horrednous at these kind of mini trophies. Yeah they are unimportant but it would still be better to win them. A great way to kick off the season. It might only be a shield but it is handed by the FA and it is in wembley. It is a glorified freindly, but every trophy is just a piece of medal handed out after a number of glorified games. Also with very few exceptions a lost CS is a sign of a bad season to follow. The writing is on the wall and ahs been for months now. Arsenal have now won 3 of the last 4 Community Shields (or something like that) and putting yesterday's aside, have they really made that CS win count in previous seasons? No. Won 1-2 FA Cups but they continually get embarrassed in the Champions League and Premier League. If we go on to have a bad season, it won't be because we lost the Community Shield. MefiX19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said: But you have to look at the bigge rpicutre. We lost to one of our biggest rivals in a derby that kicks off the season in embarrassing fashion. we have lost in the shield 2010,2012,2015 and 2017. We lost the FA Cup final, the Super cup in 2012 and 2013 as well as the Worlc club in 2012. We hae been horrednous at these kind of mini trophies. Yeah they are unimportant but it would still be better to win them. A great way to kick off the season. It might only be a shield but it is handed by the FA and it is in wembley. It is a glorified freindly, but every trophy is just a piece of medal handed out after a number of glorified games. Also with very few exceptions a lost CS is a sign of a bad season to follow. The writing is on the wall and ahs been for months now. I would argue that a CS win is a sign of a bad season to follow. A CS winner hasn't gone on to win the league since United in 2011 mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miki-Liki 405 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 1 hour ago, NiclasCFC said: I would argue that a CS win is a sign of a bad season to follow. A CS winner hasn't gone on to win the league since United in 2011 mate.  Well, you could argue that a CS loss is an even worse sign, because in the last two seasons, Chelsea and Leicester finished around the 10th place in the league, in 2014, City lost the CS and their season ended up being trophyless, in 2013, Wigan played in the Championship, in 2012 Chelsea ended up playing in the EL... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakhov 253 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 45 minutes ago, Miki-Liki said:  Well, you could argue that a CS loss is an even worse sign, because in the last two seasons, Chelsea and Leicester finished around the 10th place in the league, in 2014, City lost the CS and their season ended up being trophyless, in 2013, Wigan played in the Championship, in 2012 Chelsea ended up playing in the EL... Weren't Wigan already relegated before they even played that CS game? They won the FA Cup and got relegated in the same season if I recall and we ended up playing the EL in 2013 and won it... so not all bad eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miki-Liki 405 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 1 minute ago, zakhov said: Weren't Wigan already relegated before they even played that CS game? They won the FA Cup and got relegated in the same season if I recall and we ended up playing the EL in 2013 and won it... so not all bad eh? They did, that's what I said. Yes, in 2012/13 we participated in 8 different competitions including the super cups, and won the one competition that no fan wanted the club to participate in, after finishing 3rd in the CL group stages and replacing a club legend with Benitez. Good times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 On 07/08/2017 at 10:11 AM, Magic Lamps said: Really disappointed with him in the CS. Paassenger in the game and an absolutely needless tackle that gave that con-ref a choice. I think it is safe to say he lost us that "trophy" and more importantly that we lost to one of our biggest rivals in a really embarrassing fashion. After the season he has had he should have done better. The entire teams shit performance lost us the game not pedro, can't cover the fact the team played like amateurs because Pedro got sent off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 On 8/7/2017 at 1:03 PM, Pizy said: Got mixed reports initially, but apparently he's not banned. Looked like he injured his hamstring in that tackle so he may be out anyways. So it starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Sh0n3x said: So it starts. Sure sometimes players put it on when they no a card is coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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