Radamel Falcao

[Tomo 21,733]

If we end up losing such a valuable and reliable striker in Remy as a result, it will be impossible to justify this signing. It is illogical and totally needless. I don't know the need for signing a washed up striker to be third choice when you have two solid strikers in Traore and Bertrand to fill the role. Who spends £10m minus wages on a third choice anyway.

If Remy wants to leave to play regularly there's not much we can do.

If he wants to stay however.....

[Tomo 21,733]

Champions can't settle. Costa is a very good player but as he is he's a level or two behind the likes of Suarez, Aguero, Benzema, Ibrahimovic & Lewandowski.

If I were Emenalo, Mourinho I'd be looking to sign potential at this point. A young striker with the skillset that matches those players to eventually take Costa's spot in the long term (2-3 seasons).

I agree that we should never stand still infact I preach it a lot however we won't get a striker on par with Costa anytime soon without breaking the bank

He may not be on par with those looking at thing's purely technically but as a striker and what he offers the team he is up there, his off the ball movement causes absolute havoc and is just a big a reason while we don't struggle vs the lesser sides as much as Cesc is, Atletico aren't even creating half the chances they did with Costa and neither do we when he is not playing.

If he gets put wide or dropped to accommodate Falcao ill be pissed, Falcao shouldn't get ahead of Diego unless he reproduces his Leti form, and even then ill still probably prefer Costa as him upfront has brought 2 league title's in the last two years for his sides.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Hahahahaha! Idiot. Jose is a human, he makes mistakes. Example Cuadrado isn't all shining lights since he moved to the Bridge. This will be another one.

But we can all agree he has earned the right to work with whoever he deems fit, right?

[didierforever 7,349]

Are you blind? I said he isn't awesome like he used to be. I am looking at last season and last season ONLY since it's recent. Over the years, Falcao was a way better player but today he is laughable.

Most players do not get their form back after a massive injury. Torres, Pires, Eduardo to name a few.

Colombia just lost to fucking Venezuela of all teams. What was Falcao doing?

Hahahahaha! Idiot. Jose is a human, he makes mistakes. Example Cuadrado isn't all shining lights since he moved to the Bridge. This will be another one.

so your measurement of a player's ability is a year..hmmm.. well i guess then that bale would be a 10mil pound player for u, right. since he had a bad last season.

a lot of players do get their form back after injuries, rooney, costa, reus, bastian to name a few.

chile could not beat mexicoB. sanchez and vidal suck

belgium lost to wales, hazard sucks cocks.

like i said...

hahahhaha.. dumbass, so cuadrado is already a mistake. 300 minutes of football with chelsea and he is a mistake. now i guess what category of idiots you belong to. guess you were one of those morons who thought malouda was mistake before he became one of our best players in 09-10 season.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

[Duppy Conqueror 1,494]

has a loaned in back up ever caused so much typing?

[AndersonBLUE 819]

There's no point denying it, he is shocking now. I mean c'mon he has sucked the past couple years.

Just glad he is benchwarmer status don't want to see another donkey up front for chelsea playing for any length of time. Torres was enough thanks

[Adnane 1,101]

Definitely coming back here with my pop corn if Falcao bags a brace tonight against the tournament favourites.

[ulvhedin 508]

i am so gonna enjoy rubbing it in people's faces.

I will remember this post after massive meltdown when you will realize he sucks

[didierforever 7,349]

Except Bale didn't have a massive injury.

Costa wasn't injured for half a year. Rooney and Reus if they were injured for that long, at least they was young when he was injured. Falcao is 29. Bastian is a midfielder.

You are comparing a FRIENDLY match?

You are dissing Wales when they are a decent team with Bale and Ramsey, AND it was at Wales' home ground... :clown:

I didn't call him a mistake, I said he hasn't been shining lights ever since he moved to the Bridge, which is indeed - fact. Jose can make mistakes, he is a human, not a magician - fact. I trust Jose, but for this particular transfer which could see Loic Remy leave/go on loan out of Chelsea I do not agree with.

but he did have a poor year did not he? thats what matters? bale's performances were worse than young so we should start comparing them, was not that your logic behind comparing falcao and crouch. :clown: :clown:

a midfielder like bastian (B2B) has more running to do, more challenges to put, so... :clown:

atleast get your fucking stats right u moron.. it was a euro qualifier not a friendly. just goes on to show exactly what u know.

copa america is being held in chile right? so thats their home ground. a below half strength mexico.. so i guess, vidal and sanchez are useless.

someone not agreeing with this transfer - fair enough.

somone comparing falcao to crouch - idiot-fact. get it!!!???

[mediator 2,026]

When will the game be played?

[didierforever 7,349]

I will remember this post after massive meltdown when you will realize he sucks

and i am gonna remember your post when all you U-turners will be saying "what a move from jose" yada yada yada.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

One more thing that gets overlooked is our late game plan b with two strikers up top. Remy and Costa never worked at all, for a two-striker system to work you need to have an understanding and form a partnership. Few can argue that Costa and Falcao never had that at Atleti. Its an important detail if you ask me...

[didierforever 7,349]

So you are telling me last season Falcao performed better than Crouch.

What season and how long was he injured?

Except Chile are on top of their group. So they are not useless. And just because they are hosts, doesn't mean they are invincibles. And at least they didn't LOSE unlike Colombia.

You are one of the fools who are blinded with the branded name "Falcao". Just like fools who were blinded with Torres. Until I see his lethal form back after that injury, he is a Torres 2.0.

And if we are comparing last season between Falcao and Crouch, why not. This discussion about Falcao performances AFTER his injury.

no, what i am telling you is that comparing falcao to crouch is as idiotic as comparing bale to young cos one had a bad season and another had a good one. :clown:

hE has been injured continously for the last couple of seasons.

so if they had lost, they would have been useles.. guess that makes hazard useles... :clown:

so by "you are one of the fools", do you even mean JOSE MOURINHO? did he get fooled by the brand name too? so basically, anyone who comes back from an injury and does not perform well is now a torres.. people are so bright these days.. :clown:

so u can predict falcao's 2nd season after his injury.. hmmm.. wow!!! you are a psychic!!! or i guess no player ever has had a poor year after an injury.. hmmm,, :clown:

[didierforever 7,349]

Young had a good season? Hahahaha! Good one. And even if Bale had a BAD season, he still managed to score 17 goals last season. Bad comparison.

But Young isn't amazing. He isn't even United's best 3 players.

YOU are the one saying the word USELESS here. Stop putting words in my mouth, clown. They would have UNDER PERFORMED. Sanchez and Hazard has underperformed in those games, but overall if we look back the past 365 days they have done well. Falcao overall underperformed.

No, I mean YOU. YOU = didierforever.

And Mourinho knows he is taking a risk here. That's why we are going to loan him. If he bought him, he would have been in deep trouble if he turns out to be a flop. And IMO, this isn't a risk worth taking even if it's a loan. Is he loaning Falcao for more shirt sales? Most likely.

You are fucking forgetting he is 29. If he was like 25, I would have been skeptical but kept my mouth shut.

did not young displace ADM for like half a season? well, i guess only goals and not performances matter. kane/sanchez/aguero were better than hazard.

so again, 1 year defines a player.. hmmm.. thank god, the real world does not work that way.

but i mean, even jose thinks like that. thats the only reason he would have bought falcao. what other reason could it be? u tell me. why would jose want falcao? is it cos he is still a very good player and jose knows exactly how good he is and that he can get that out of him. cos there is a saying "form is temporary, class is permanent". LOOLOLOLOL... another one who believes in the t-shirt stories.. i guess roman would have said to the board "listen guys, i am going bankrupt, so want to sell more shirts" :clown: :clown:

is not bastian 30? oh well... :clown: :clown: :clown: i guess by the end of the season, u ll wish that u had kept your mouth shut.

[Viper22 2,418]

[didierforever 7,349]

ADM isn't United's top three players. He himself underperformed. In fact so bad, that they choose to use Young instead.

Performances DOES matter. AS WELL AS GOALS. Crouch as a STRIKER did better than Falcao as a STRIKER last season. In terms of performance AND goals.

Bale's performance in RM is bad. But that's because RM has set the bar so high in terms of player performances. Their fans booed Ronaldo THEIR BEST PLAYER several times this season. If Bale was at a different PL club like say Chelsea, United or even Arsenal, they would be HAPPY with his performance. Bale scored SEVENTEEN goals, but RM said he performed bad?

29 YEARS OLD.

When we bought Torres, Torres just came back from injury as well. It wasn't even a YEAR before we decided to snatch him off Loserfools. Thank GOD this is a loan.

LOL at this saying "Form is temporary, class is permanent". That doesn't apply to EVERYBODY i.e. Torres. Why does this apply to Falcao especially when he is 29?! I'm going to keep repeating that he is 29 and 29 for a striker means he is getting old. When we got Torres, at least he was younger.

Are you silly? You don't have to be bankrupt start thinking how to get MORE money. Chelsea isn't just a football club, it's also a business. With plans of a rebuilding our stadium for example, we need to make much more money to sustain ourselves. Falcao is a brand name, we are certainly guaranteed more shirt sales if we get him.

Bastian isn't a striker, he's a midfielder. As a lethal striker, you need to have clinical finishing which Falcao lacks at the moment. Stop comparing a midfielder to a striker as they have DIFFERENT ROLES.

so let me get this straight. our board said, fuck the yokohama deal, fuck the awesome transfers that we have made like luiz for 50mil, fuck the general proze money and tv money we are getting, we want to make money off falcao. not reus, not bale not pogba but falcao. and whats even more awesome in that, jose said "you guys are right, i dont need a 3rd striker who i feel is good, even though remy and costa were injured together for a lot of matches, i too want to sell shirts"... yipeee!!! :clown:

so basically, all of your arguments are based on torres... hmmm.. awesome.. lets judge everyone from torres' perspective.. i mean life IS that simple, right...

ADM is a world class player.. young outperformed him.. so by your definition ADM sucks, right?

bale did not just perform badly according to RM level, his performances were down right shit. only reason he got 17 goals was cos your team beats anither 7-0, you generally end up on the scoresheet. remember torres also scored 22 goals in 12-13, did not mean he was worth shit.

again, midfielder needs to be more fit, an injury would ruin a midfielder's career even more than a strikers. also, how is falcao's finishing and clinicality related to his injury? LOL... you just basically said that he was in poor form, and again, forms can change quicker than people's opinion about players in today's world. so stop giving asenine arguments.

again, i want you to explain to me, why would jose risk getting a loanee who apparently is done and dusted and out of it over options like benteke, lacazette. please go on and tell me

[robsblubot 3,529]

A few points on the discussion:

• IMO all our strikers are a bit injury-prone (assuming Falcao indeed joins)
• They are all good players regardless of form
• even when not scoring Falcao movement wasn't too bad and his work rate was there.

Falcao is a bet because of his injuries and so was Torres, but the similarities end here: the problem wasn't betting on Torres, but the contract duration and wages. Falcao will be on loan which makes him a good bet in my book.

There are many other variables unknown to us which pertain the deals between clubs, agents, and scouts. Favors are currency too in football.