Radamel Falcao

[The Skipper 20,593]

Now you're pulling reverse psychology to get ahead on an argument. Not gonna work on me, mate.

I was genuinely asking. The questions still stand, answer them if you want or when you can. I've given you plenty of reasoning as to why I think Falcao and Benzema are who they are but I feel you haven't really done the same.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

I was genuinely asking. The questions still stand, answer them if you want or when you can. I've given you plenty of reasoning as to why I think Falcao and Benzema are who they are but I feel you haven't really done the same.

I completely agree on the fact that they're two completely different strikers. Benzema does better on the counter and Falcao does well in those 1v1 situations and has killer striker abilities and is a better dribbler than Benzema IMO.

That video you embedded shows just how good Benzema is on the counter.

http://youtu.be/S-lsMf8-SR4

From this video, I count more goals from sort of balanced play rather than counter-attacks. Most of his goals are from his abilities on the ball and finishing skills. Like I said he creates his own goals from half chances with his killer first touch which, clearly, cannot be said about Benzema.

[Toli 977]

AS Monaco won't pay 75% tax while all other clubs will be forced to pay

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/international/frankreich/1312/News/as-monaco-soll-doch-keine-reichensteuer-zahlen-ligue-1-bernard-cazeneuve.html

[_007M_ 26]

I think these are just media guesses no more

It's impossible that monaco gave up falcao quickly this way !!

[The Skipper 20,593]

I completely agree on the fact that they're two completely different strikers. Benzema does better on the counter and Falcao does well in those 1v1 situations and has killer striker abilities and is a better dribbler than Benzema IMO.

That video you embedded shows just how good Benzema is on the counter.

http://youtu.be/S-lsMf8-SR4

From this video, I count more goals from sort of balanced play rather than counter-attacks. Most of his goals are from his abilities on the ball and finishing skills. Like I said he creates his own goals from half chances with his killer first touch which, clearly, cannot be said about Benzema.

I remember all of those goals very well, watched Atletico quite a bit last season, and as you can see, the majority of them were either penalties, off the counter, some tap ins, or just ruthless one on one finishing in the box. You're not even disagreeing with anything I said about Falcao - I said that he's a better finisher than Benzema and finds himself in better positions to finish the ball - that's not what we were arguing about.

That video still doesn't show off Falcao's dribbling ability or ability to shield or hold on to the ball or his ability to bring others into play like the video I showed you does. You haven't shown me a video that consistently looks at the general play of Falcao when he's not scoring whilst I have. Are you sure you watched the video I embedded? It doesn't even focus on Benzema's goal scoring ability off the counter (we're not arguing about who has the better killer instinct... That obviously goes to Radamel), it focuses on his general play, his technique with the ball and his ability on the ball. Like I said before, you won't see Falcao beating 3 or 4 guys with just his dribbling ability or with a flick of the ball, or with a great pass into Ronaldo or Ozil or Bale or whoever, which all come outside the box where it's a lot more congested. The above to me defines that one has great ability on the ball. The video you've embedded... All it does is show off Radamel's goal scoring ability which is not the same as ball playing ability or his play in general. As I said again, we're not discussing who's the better goal scorer or finisher. That clearly goes to Falcao.

Like I said you won't see Falcao pulling off the flicks, or the passes, or the ability to beat men in congestion in his general play outside the box like Benzema does. Falcao doesn't come deep like Benzema because he doesn't have the ability to do that. You're trying to make it sound that all Benzema does is goal hang which is completely false because the most forward man in Real's team is obviously Ronaldo.

Lastly, again you're agreeing with a point I said earlier - that Falcao is the one who scores off of half chances in the box - you've just essentially said the same - and that makes him more of a poacher to me than Benzema. Apart from scoring goals, Falcao doesn't offer anything else. He doesn't really bring others into play, he doesn't drop deep to receive the ball like Benzema does, he doesn't have the ability to keep the ball effectively if crowded out by 3/4 players outside the box... All he does is get into great positions in the box and finishes ruthlessly. Which is exactly what a poacher does.

[Barbara 15,149]

That's what i meant, but you know what, i should given more clarity to my statement.

Also that line came out of my frustrations. No offence intended, Barbara. :heart:

none taken

sorry if I offended you anyhow

[Sidzeret 2,257]

I remember all of those goals very well, watched Atletico quite a bit last season, and as you can see, the majority of them were either penalties, off the counter, some tap ins, or just ruthless one on one finishing in the box. You're not even disagreeing with anything I said about Falcao - I said that he's a better finisher than Benzema and finds himself in better positions to finish the ball - that's not what we were arguing about.

That video still doesn't show off Falcao's dribbling ability or ability to shield or hold on to the ball or his ability to bring others into play like the video I showed you does. You haven't shown me a video that consistently looks at the general play of Falcao when he's not scoring whilst I have. Are you sure you watched the video I embedded? It doesn't even focus on Benzema's goal scoring ability off the counter (we're not arguing about who has the better killer instinct... That obviously goes to Radamel), it focuses on his general play, his technique with the ball and his ability on the ball. Like I said before, you won't see Falcao beating 3 or 4 guys with just his dribbling ability or with a flick of the ball, or with a great pass into Ronaldo or Ozil or Bale or whoever, which all come outside the box where it's a lot more congested. The above to me defines that one has great ability on the ball. The video you've embedded... All it does is show off Radamel's goal scoring ability which is not the same as ball playing ability or his play in general. As I said again, we're not discussing who's the better goal scorer or finisher. That clearly goes to Falcao.

Like I said you won't see Falcao pulling off the flicks, or the passes, or the ability to beat men in congestion in his general play outside the box like Benzema does. Falcao doesn't come deep like Benzema because he doesn't have the ability to do that. You're trying to make it sound that all Benzema does is goal hang which is completely false because the most forward man in Real's team is obviously Ronaldo.

Lastly, again you're agreeing with a point I said earlier - that Falcao is the one who scores off of half chances in the box - you've just essentially said the same - and that makes him more of a poacher to me than Benzema. Apart from scoring goals, Falcao doesn't offer anything else. He doesn't really bring others into play, he doesn't drop deep to receive the ball like Benzema does, he doesn't have the ability to keep the ball effectively if crowded out by 3/4 players outside the box... All he does is get into great positions in the box and finishes ruthlessly. Which is exactly what a poacher does.

Fine, bro. It seems that you can't get over the fact that Falcao is a better striker than Benzema, be it holding up the ball or finishing or passing. And both vids doesn't do enough justice to the arguments.

Real is one of my fav teams in Europe and I've watched enough Benzema to know how good he is but don't think he is a better all rounder than Falcao. Period.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Fine, bro. It seems that you can't get over the fact that Falcao is a better striker than Benzema, be it holding up the ball or finishing or passing. And both vids doesn't do enough justice to the arguments.

Real is one of my fav teams in Europe and I've watched enough Benzema to know how good he is but don't think he is a better all rounder than Falcao. Period.

So you think Falcao is a better passer than Benzema? And that he can hold the ball up better?

I did state from the start that I think Benzema is better than Falcao.

I rest my case. Don't worry about it we'll just leave it there.

[Styles 9,790]

Benzema is a better all-round player than Falcao.

Falcao is a better finisher than Benzema.

Just my two cents.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Benzema is a better all-round player than Falcao.

Falcao is a better finisher than Benzema.

Just my two cents.

The truth actually..

[Tomo 21,733]

I would rather worry about a more complete striker when we have a more complete team. Right now we are an unbalanced team so having a natural goalscorer will do wonders with getting us more points. Imagine if we had him last season? he alone would have probably got us at-least 10 more points.

Having said that i think the ship has well and truly sailed with Falcao, best to find someone else who won't cost upwards of £50m.

[Toli 977]

if monaco dont have to pay the 75% I think its even more unrealistic to get Falcao...surely if they join the CL they can cope with their squad without selling him.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Benzema is a better all-round player than Falcao.

Falcao is a better finisher than Benzema.

Just my two cents.

That is exactly my argument in two sentences.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Benzema is a better all-round player than Falcao.

Falcao is a better finisher than Benzema.

Just my two cents.

Its probably true that Benzema is a better passer, better pivot striker and stuff like that, but i cant belive someone really thinks that makes him a better striker than Falcao or even close to him. Falcao is a different class, he's in a all other level, the fact Benzema can do more on the pitch doesnt mean he does it so well to be considered as good as a goal monster like Falcao. Ask any Real fan or the club himself if they will replace between them, what do you think they'll say? its not just his finishing, its the positioning, its getting passed defenders, Falcao is a 16 yard box genius, you cant say he's just a great finisher.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Its probably true that Benzema is a better passer, better pivot striker and stuff like that, but i cant belive someone really thinks that makes him a better striker than Falcao or even close to him. Falcao is a different class, he's in a all other level, the fact Benzema can do more on the pitch doesnt mean he does it so well to be considered as good as a goal monster like Falcao. Ask any Real fan or the club himself if they will replace between them, what do you think they'll say? its not just his finishing, its the positioning, its getting passed defenders, Falcao is a 16 yard box genius, you cant say he's just a great finisher.

Real don't need a 16 yard box genius. Their team is built around Ronaldo and Benzema is a much better fit in that sense.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Really really reallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreally need him now

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Falcao will get chances like Torres had today. How many of those will he get?

[yuvala 2,167]

Really really reallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreally need him now

really really really reallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreally wont get him .