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I disagree. To me a match winner of the highest order is as important as a great holding mid. It just so happens Falcao may be available and for that reason we take a look at acquiring him.

If we acquired say... Pogba would it negate the need for a match winner?

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You may disagree but I've seen us win titles where our main striker scored about a dozen league goals.

I reckon if we had a world-class midfielder then it would make us a better team. I think the attacking players would benefit massively and we wouldn't be shipping goals at home to West Brom.

Falcao's a good player but I think we've got to look for value in the market and he doesn't offer that. It's reminiscent of the short-termist thinking that got us into a mess a couple of seasons back.

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I disagree. To me a match winner of the highest order is as important as a great holding mid. It just so happens Falcao may be available and for that reason we take a look at acquiring him.

If we acquired say... Pogba would it negate the need for a match winner?

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You may disagree but I've seen us win titles where our main striker scored about a dozen league goals.

I reckon if we had a world-class midfielder then it would make us a better team. I think the attacking players would benefit massively and we wouldn't be shipping goals at home to West Brom.

Falcao's a good player but I think we've got to look for value in the market and he doesn't offer that. It's reminiscent of the short-termist thinking that got us into a mess a couple of seasons back.

You sound as if this squad has the same characteristics as the team that won with few contributions from strikers. Not the case at all this squad, like the 2010 team, needs a match winner AND a midfielder.

And a player like Falcao is certainly good value when you consider the fact he scores boatloads of important goals. That's the difference. Not the volume but the types of teams he scores against can decide cups and titles. We need a match winner and there aren't that many around that will be counted as a bargain.

Torres, Ba, Eto'o are adequate but not exactly ideal.

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You sound as if this squad has the same characteristics as the team that won with few contributions from strikers. Not the case at all this squad, like the 2010 team, needs a match winner AND a midfielder.

And a player like Falcao is certainly good value when you consider the fact he scores boatloads of important goals. That's the difference. Not the volume but the types of teams he scores against can decide cups and titles. We need a match winner and there aren't that many around that will be counted as a bargain.

Torres, Ba, Eto'o are adequate but not exactly ideal.

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It's very easy to commit us to around £100 million of spending when it's not your money. Sure we could go that route again but I'd prefer to see us buy sensibly, use the resources we already have and build something that might take a bit more time, but could be sustainable over a longer period of time.

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You sound as if this squad has the same characteristics as the team that won with few contributions from strikers. Not the case at all this squad, like the 2010 team, needs a match winner AND a midfielder.

And a player like Falcao is certainly good value when you consider the fact he scores boatloads of important goals. That's the difference. Not the volume but the types of teams he scores against can decide cups and titles. We need a match winner and there aren't that many around that will be counted as a bargain.

Torres, Ba, Eto'o are adequate but not exactly ideal.

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It's very easy to commit us to around £100 million of spending when it's not your money. Sure we could go that route again but I'd prefer to see us buy sensibly, use the resources we already have and build something that might take a bit more time, but could be sustainable over a longer period of time.

Ya, buy sensibly like when we bought willian, mata, atsu, schurrle, mata, hazard, debruyne, Moses, Oscar... The past 3yrs.

Anyway I never said anything about buying without selling. I strongly feel that in order to buy a real match winner and a midfielder we're going to have to sell, it's inevitable and also necessary.

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Ya, buy sensibly like when we bought willian, mata, atsu, schurrle, mata, hazard, debruyne, Moses, Oscar... The past 3yrs.

Anyway I never said anything about buying without selling. I strongly feel that in order to buy a real match winner and a midfielder we're going to have to sell, it's inevitable and also necessary.

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I'd say all those signings have maintained or increased their transfer value. That's a sensible policy because they're young guys who are worth more today than when we bought them. :carlo:

Look, I just don't think he's the right guy. A few years ago when he left Porto was the time to get him but now we need to spend in other areas.

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Ya, buy sensibly like when we bought willian, mata, atsu, schurrle, mata, hazard, debruyne, Moses, Oscar... The past 3yrs.

Anyway I never said anything about buying without selling. I strongly feel that in order to buy a real match winner and a midfielder we're going to have to sell, it's inevitable and also necessary.

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I'd say all those signings have maintained or increased their transfer value. That's a sensible policy because they're young guys who are worth more today than when we bought them. :carlo:

Look, I just don't think he's the right guy. A few years ago when he left Porto was the time to get him but now we need to spend in other areas.

Well that's where the difference lies. Depending on the fee I think a guy who's scored 102 goals since 2009 is exactly the right buy. We've been too wrapped up in buying every young midfielder we've ignored prime time players and that is now the reason we aren't as good as we should be. Too many players past their prime and too many still approaching their best. Falcao would be amazing.

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You may disagree but I've seen us win titles where our main striker scored about a dozen league goals.

I reckon if we had a world-class midfielder then it would make us a better team. I think the attacking players would benefit massively and we wouldn't be shipping goals at home to West Brom.

Falcao's a good player but I think we've got to look for value in the market and he doesn't offer that. It's reminiscent of the short-termist thinking that got us into a mess a couple of seasons back.

And I have seen average teams winnings titles just because they have a top striker...

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What? You're putting words in my mouth now... I wasn't using the fact that he wasn't even the best striker in France as an argument of us not buying him. If you read the discussion I was having with ElTigre you'd see that he thought Falcao was the best striker in the world and that's why I said he's not even the best striker in France. You've completely taken that part of my argument out of context.

Oh ok, sorry!

To be fair, I have read your post lonely and I wasnt following your discussion with ElTigre, so I may have taken it out of context and jumped on to wrong conclusions. My bad!

I am of the opinion we need two good strikers to be competitive and thrive in the long term. We already have one in Lukaku. So I honestly believe we should go to another option, someone who could add in quality and experience...

I was very clear (and vocal) about my desire to sign Cavani, but the price was just too high and Mourinho didnt seemed interested in coaching him (imo, of course). But I never hided my admiration for Falcao (maybe because I have followed him for so long) and I firmly believe he would light the world on fire with Jose and the AMs we have. He would become the best striker in EPL by a mile!

£52mi is a lot, I know. However, comparing with the current prices of modern football and our latest transfers, it doesnt sound so ridiculous. I mean, Bale went for 100mi, Cavani for 63, Neymar for 57, Lucas for 44, Hazard for 32mi, William for 32mi, Lamela for 30mi, etc. Falcao is not worth 52, but I dont know mate, this would still be a better deal than most of the examples I gave you.

I am also not saying Falcao would be our only option nor that without him we cant be successful, I am just posting that I feel he would add a lot to our team and would definitely help us win titles.

Falcao + Lukaku is the ideal striker options going foward for me!!!

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And I have seen average teams winnings titles just because they have a top striker...

Like Man United last season... that will forever be the example I will use when somebody bitches about my desire for us to buy a top Striker when we could actually do with players in other key areas!

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Like Man United last season... that will forever be the example I will use when somebody bitches about my desire for us to buy a top Striker when we could actually do with players in other key areas!

Exactly!

And buying a top striker doesnt mean that Lukaku wont get playing time nor that we will not buy players in other key positions as well...

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Like Man United last season... that will forever be the example I will use when somebody bitches about my desire for us to buy a top Striker when we could actually do with players in other key areas!

Arsenal too. They won the Top 4 trophy in 2012 because of RvP

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Like Man United last season... that will forever be the example I will use when somebody bitches about my desire for us to buy a top Striker when we could actually do with players in other key areas!

They also had great seasons from Rio Ferdinand and in particular Michael Carrick. It's very easy to say RVP won them the league (and he was instrumental) but they had a good team with a good spine, unlike Liverpool and Spurs who both had 'match-winners' in Suarez and Bale respectively but didn't have good enough teams to breach the top four.

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They also had great seasons from Rio Ferdinand and in particular Michael Carrick. It's very easy to say RVP won them the league (and he was instrumental) but they had a good team with a good spine, unlike Liverpool and Spurs who both had 'match-winners' in Suarez and Bale respectively but didn't have good enough teams to breach the top four.

Ferdinand did have a monster season and Carrick natured into a semi world class player lool. Having said that though without RVP scoring volleys from every angle known to man they would not have won the league in my opinion.

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If he comes without us overpaying like crazy, i like it. I was a bit hesitant considering he's going to be 28 next year. But just look at Robin van Persie and Ibrahimovic. These are his best years, and top notch strikers aren't knocking on the door every year.

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What is funny though is people complaining that Falcao/Cavani for £50-£60m is too much while WILLIAN for £30m is nothing LOL. Willian isn't even in the top 15 wingers in the world while Falcao is probably considered the best ST in the world atm LOL.

You just got to realize that not everyone is gonna go for what they are worth. Are Willian that good he is only £2m less than Hazard who was on the nominated list for best player in the world this year.

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We bought Willian for £25m.

Still too much imo, he had proved nothing apart from those performances against us. But anyway the point is £50m or whatsoever is not really massively overpriced for Falcao considering the market atm, Higuain who is a much worse striker is £31m alone, Falcao who was named in Team of the year surely must be worth much more? Even Benzema was signed for around £40m and he was no where near as good as Falcao now.

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