CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Semite. a member of any of various ancient and modern peoples originating in southwestern Asia, including the Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs. a member of any of the peoples descended from Shem, the eldest son of Noah. Well my ignorance towards Semites is abundantly clear Almost no one knows this origin of the word and it is never used in that sense. For reasons I do not wish to get into, antisemitism is today only used to reffer to intolerance towards Jews. You won't see anywhere someone refering to racism against Arabs as antisemitism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,317 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 3 and 5 year bans. It was always going to be a stitch-up once it went viral, the social media police made their judgement from day one. If there was evidence they were doing anything illegal then they'd be looking at prison sentences.Amazing to see quotes like, 'the incident "tarnished the reputation of English football in Europe".' Some of the shit that goes on, on the continent, that nobody cares about, it's absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 3 and 5 year bans.It was always going to be a stitch-up once it went viral, the social media police made their judgement from day one. If there was evidence they were doing anything illegal then they'd be looking at prison sentences.Amazing to see quotes like, 'the incident "tarnished the reputation of English football in Europe".' Some of the shit that goes on, on the continent, that nobody cares about, it's absurd.No-one gives a shit about Heysel, but this - fuck me, we're worse than the Nazis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,317 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 No-one gives a shit about Heysel, but this - fuck me, we're worse than the Nazis.In Spain last year a fan murdered, Italy the year before, in Germany and Holland where the hooligans regularly smash up mosques -but no apparently its Chelsea the worst. Not condoning what they did, but its trial by mobile phone and social media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelDance 552 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Chelsea provided a for life ban for all 5 of them today so that's good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 You have to remember the poor man has been traumatised unable to work , His life has been destroyed and even his children traumatised but ,,, he is now willing to cometo the Bridge ,, I am only quoting from his press conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 You have to remember the poor man has been traumatised unable to work , His life has been destroyed and even his children traumatised but ,,, he is now willing to cometo the Bridge ,, I am only quoting from his press conference.What happened to the bloke was completely out of order BUT: I can't help thinking it's like one of those no win no fee ads you see all the time you know the type of thing. Just tried to get on the Metro and have been denied entry? Went home and and never gave it much thought?. Well Stop you could claim for thousands of pounds. Yes that's right thousands of pounds. All you need is some faux outrage from social media and you could become a cause celebre overnight that's right overnight. A nice bit of exaggeration about how a shove on in the chest has impacted on your life and the world's your Normandy oyster. Interested? Well then act straight away Monsieur just answer these questions''How would you like your compensation to be paid Euro's or Sterling''?. Take your time have a tete a- tete with your translator. ''Fucking sterling mate when my book comes out all i'll be interested is in notes with her majesty's boat race on you mug''.NB: Compensation will only be paid if said incident is sent to the British Press rather then the French Media who frankly didn't care less at the time and still don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 You have to remember the poor man has been traumatised unable to work , His life has been destroyed and even his children traumatised but ,,, he is now willing to cometo the Bridge ,, I am only quoting from his press conference.He said in his first interview: "I used to things like that", but a few days later he completely changed his tune and talking about how this gives him nightmares and how he can't work anymore, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 He said in his first interview: "I used to things like that", but a few days later he completely changed his tune and talking about how this gives him nightmares and how he can't work anymore, etc.our fans were idiots ,, but he and the media are milking it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 The football hooligans have been doing that sort of thing for ages.If it's not fighting with rival supporters, it's going to be breaking glass windows and stealing or racist and similar incidents.Everywhere.Football is a game of action in which the spectators take an active part.It can't become like golf where everybody seats quiet, like some officious bodies seem to think.But there are some who go beyond the limits and for those only the "Thatcher treatment" can produce an effect.I wonder when football hooligans turned up for the first time.In Greece it's 1972. Before that there were isolated incidents -two men coming to blows- but no hooligan gangs as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,317 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Souleymane on about compensation again. How the fuck can you use that as an excuse for being off work for 5 months ? Fair play If he thinks getting on that train is bad he should try the Circle line during fucking rush hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Some losers shouted abuse at you ,and wouldn't let you on a train. So you take half a year off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Gutted for the supporter who was on the other carriage standing with a couple of old bill. Didnt hear anything but still got a banning order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Theres alot of difference between a couple of twats on a train acting like morons who would have done summet similar if the guy hadn't been black but anyone that stood out from the 'norm' And it might have been 1 guy that started it and the others just joined in like usual without thinking.. I know it doesnt make it better its just a possible explanation. I know many lads like them and theyre not racist just got very different sense of humour.Anyone thats been abroad with us has seen things happen from both the home fans and our lot.Ive been trying to remember where we were but a guy near me let off a couple of flares. The cops came steaming in, truncheons swinging, men,women,children being hit and sprayed with pepper spray. Alot of normal shirt wearers getting dropped and alot of very innocent people very hurt. Yes of course there was some fighting back but the whole thing wasn't necessary. When they left and went back down to the pitch there was a big chant of Sieg Heil with Nazi Salutes. This wasn't because all these people were bloomin Nazis it was aimed at the storm trooper like tactics they had just seen.There wasn't any reports in the media but just imagine how that could have been spun. With pictures of all types of our supporters giving Nazi salutes. We would still be hearing about it now!Theres a big difference between out n out racists and just a bit of banter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Theres alot of difference between a couple of twats on a train acting like morons who would have done summet similar if the guy hadn't been black but anyone that stood out from the 'norm' And it might have been 1 guy that started it and the others just joined in like usual without thinking.. I know it doesnt make it better its just a possible explanation. I know many lads like them and theyre not racist just got very different sense of humour.Anyone thats been abroad with us has seen things happen from both the home fans and our lot.Ive been trying to remember where we were but a guy near me let off a couple of flares. The cops came steaming in, truncheons swinging, men,women,children being hit and sprayed with pepper spray. Alot of normal shirt wearers getting dropped and alot of very innocent people very hurt. Yes of course there was some fighting back but the whole thing wasn't necessary. When they left and went back down to the pitch there was a big chant of Sieg Heil with Nazi Salutes. This wasn't because all these people were bloomin Nazis it was aimed at the storm trooper like tactics they had just seen.There wasn't any reports in the media but just imagine how that could have been spun. With pictures of all types of our supporters giving Nazi salutes. We would still be hearing about it now!Theres a big difference between out n out racists and just a bit of banter.Marseille ?. The old bill there are completely over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 3 and 5 year bans.It was always going to be a stitch-up once it went viral, the social media police made their judgement from day one. If there was evidence they were doing anything illegal then they'd be looking at prison sentences.Amazing to see quotes like, 'the incident "tarnished the reputation of English football in Europe".' Some of the shit that goes on, on the continent, that nobody cares about, it's absurd.Yep, this in so many ways.The football bodies were quite willing to throw us to the wolves and blame nearly all football hooliganism on us, it's all nice and convenient.What really happened may never be clear, because it'll never be reported properly.What do we expect anyway, nearly every other fan from every other team in England was just waiting for an excuse to wind us up. Nobody remembers Heysel, the homophobic abuse Arsenal fans gave Graeme Le Saux, etc etcYou can tell cos the club decided to fold and crucify 4 instead of fight for them. Probably to save a lot of face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 The cure is 2 months army training.Roll call at 6 o' clock - German numbers 2-4 am - push ups.Also when they stand to attention and the serg who comes round the back manages to pull their arm clear it's two rounds around the football ground at moderate trot.They will also learn use of weapons, bridging electric circuits. swimming in the mud, artificial respiration.You bet that 'll be the end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,317 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 The cure is 2 months army training.Roll call at 6 o' clock - German numbers 2-4 am - push ups.Also when they stand to attention and the serg who comes round the back manages to pull their arm clear it's two rounds around the football ground at moderate trot.They will also learn use of weapons, bridging electric circuits. swimming in the mud, artificial respiration.You bet that 'll be the end of it.Known a couple of ex squaddies who used to go away, and they were the most mental violent hooligans out of all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 The cure is 2 months army training.Roll call at 6 o' clock - German numbers 2-4 am - push ups.Also when they stand to attention and the serg who comes round the back manages to pull their arm clear it's two rounds around the football ground at moderate trot.They will also learn use of weapons, bridging electric circuits. swimming in the mud, artificial respiration.You bet that 'll be the end of it.You teach a thug that sort of training he'll be even worse. National Service according to my uncle was total bollocks he hated it though i'm sure there's loads who enjoyed it. What you have to remember that people who join the Army join because they want to and know what to expect. Chuck a thug in a boot camp for a couple of months would basically just be honing there thuggish instincts. This is obviously the British Army and will be different in Europe and the rest of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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