Liquidator 5,176 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Derby and smarmy car salesman lookalike Steve McLaren are no mugs. They are right in the mix for promotion. We will need a strong team to beat this lot. Ake and Zouma would be the only 2 youngsters I'd play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 ake and zouma and remy are a must. salah and schurrle deserve to be played too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Why should we rest too many players? The players have a six-day break between this and Stoke away. Cech Azpilicueta - Zouma - Terry - Luis Matic - Rambo/FabregasSchurrle - Oscar - Hazard Drogba Diego, Remy, Salah, Willian, Ramires, Branislav and Thibaut on the bench in case things go to pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Derby were extremely poor against Middlesbrough on Saturday so they will be looking for an instant reply on Tuesday.They normally play with quite a dynamic system, with a lot of late runs from midfield by the likes of Bryson and Hendrick. They lack creativity whenever Will Hughes plays though, but when he does they are usually more susceptible to being caught on the counter-attack. One thing Boro did brilliantly yesterday was press Derby's back four. They like to play football, and pass it out from the back, but their four defenders are fucking awful on the ball and panic whenever they're closed down (remind anyone of a certain Englishman?). The best thing we can do is play someone who will occupy their centre-backs with two hard-working midfield players. I wouldn't be surprised if Schurrle, Ramires, Matic and Oscar all started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Everyone has Luis in their XI but I'm not sure he will be available. His knee was apparently bruised pretty badly after the match yesterday from Huddlestone's stomp. Jose confirmed that Zouma will start and I think we might see Schurrle for Willian but I am certain that Hazard will start. He was rested for Sporting and the whole team has two days off after Derby, so we need not worry about recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Not going to happen but this would be great:CechAzpi - Zouma - Terry - Luis (if fit) Matic - AkeRLCBoga - Remy - Hazard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Not going to happen but this would be great:CechAzpi - Zouma - Terry - Luis (if fit)Matic - AkeRLCBoga - Remy - HazardThe combination of both the lack of chemistry and experience of that front line would make it a disaster, far from 'great'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Remy Hazard Cesc Schurrle Matic Ake Luis Azpi Terry Zouma CechC'mon Jose! I really wanna see Ake (or Loftus-Cheek) start! The team would still be far superior to the Derby's so there shouldn't be any risk, right? Going forward, Ake also has much better passing abilities compared to Ramires or Mikel, and he is solid defensively as well. Hope not to see Willian since he was awful yesterday, and giving rest to Oscar would seem like a good idea to me because besides Cesc we don't really have any back-up for him.Ivanovic is an interesting case as breaks or rest really seem to impact his play in a positive way. He always starts the year strong after long summer, and yesterday he had one of his finest games of the season after been given a little rest. Therefore, he should be saved against the tough match against Stoke. Remy has not started a game all season, so it's about time for that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 The combination of both the lack of chemistry and experience of that front line would make it a disaster, far from 'great'. We're not playing a world class team here, don't think it would be wrong to experiment and give some individuals chances providing we have a solid base behind them. We don't definitely need exceptional experience against Derby, I would trust the quality of the players (RLC and Boga) and the general experience of the senior attacking players (Hazard and Remy, even if they haven't played too many times together - how else will they build that chemistry?) to see us through against Derby. Like I said, it won't happen, but it would be great IMO to give the likes of Boga, RLC and Ake some first team action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 We're not playing a world class team here, don't think it would be wrong to experiment and give some individuals chances providing we have a solid base behind them.We don't definitely need exceptional experience against Derby, I would trust the quality of the players (RLC and Boga) and the general experience of the senior attacking players (Hazard and Remy, even if they haven't played too many times together - how else will they build that chemistry?) to see us through against Derby.Like I said, it won't happen, but it would be great IMO to give the likes of Boga, RLC and Ake some first team action.I agree that it won't happen. We know Cahill is out and Cesc is in. Beyond these, I hope Remy will start and there might be a toss up between Willian & Schurle but, other than that, I can see Jose going first choice wherever possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 We're not playing a world class team here, don't think it would be wrong to experiment and give some individuals chances providing we have a solid base behind them.We don't definitely need exceptional experience against Derby, I would trust the quality of the players (RLC and Boga) and the general experience of the senior attacking players (Hazard and Remy, even if they haven't played too many times together - how else will they build that chemistry?) to see us through against Derby.Like I said, it won't happen, but it would be great IMO to give the likes of Boga, RLC and Ake some first team action.True, we're not playing a world class team, and I do not doubt the youngsters skill, but what you're suggesting is to play 'boys' against 'men'.The smallest/youngest/most inexperienced player on a pitch will always be exploited in some form or another. If they don't do it tactically, they will certainly do it physically and proceed to kick 7 shades of s**t out of whoever it may be. It will be loud (Derby have the best attendance in the Championship), it will be physical and it will most definitely be hostile; certainly not an environment young players like Bogo & RLC are used to. It may as well be different worlds to them and, because of that, there would be a good chance of shellshock.I was angry at José for not giving RLC enough time in a nothing home game in Europe where you can't get away with being overly physical, but suggesting such a youthful combination AWAY to a championship team who have everything to play for is, I'm sorry, a bit arrogant and kind of bordering on insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkim2 73 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Azpi Zouma Terry AkeRLC Cesc MaticSchurrle Drogba Salah subs in: Christensen, Ramires, Remy Here's what I'm hoping.. but will never come true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Careful guys, don't want a Sunderland now do we.I would still go withCechIva Zouma Cahill LuisELC Ramires MaticSalah Remy SchurrleMaybe Hazard or Fabregas instead of Ramires for creativity, but it is just against Derby it won't be absolutely necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Diego Eden Oscar Schurrle Matic Cesc Azpilicueta JT Zouma Ivanovic Cech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Cech, Dave, Zouma, JT, Luis RLC MaticSalah Oscar Schurrle Remy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Christensen, Loftus-Cheek, Boga & Solanke all started today's U21s victory over Sunderland. Izzy Brown played nearly 30 minutes as a second half substitute. This probably rules all of them out of contention for Tuesday. Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 True, we're not playing a world class team, and I do not doubt the youngsters skill, but what you're suggesting is to play 'boys' against 'men'.The smallest/youngest/most inexperienced player on a pitch will always be exploited in some form or another. If they don't do it tactically, they will certainly do it physically and proceed to kick 7 shades of s**t out of whoever it may be. It will be loud (Derby have the best attendance in the Championship), it will be physical and it will most definitely be hostile; certainly not an environment young players like Bogo & RLC are used to. It may as well be different worlds to them and, because of that, there would be a good chance of shellshock.I was angry at José for not giving RLC enough time in a nothing home game in Europe where you can't get away with being overly physical, but suggesting such a youthful combination AWAY to a championship team who have everything to play for is, I'm sorry, a bit arrogant and kind of bordering on insanity.I don't think its anywhere as youthful as you're suggesting. Apart from RLC, Boga and Ake it's pretty much still a very solid, experienced XI that I've put up there. Not like we're playing youth all over the gaff here are we?Also, I personally was one of the few that wasn't angry that Jose only gave RLC 10 minutes against Sporting, I sort of understood why. I honestly don't think that side I put there is as inexperienced and youthful as you're making it seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey 173 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 CechAzpi - Zouma - JT - LuisRamires - CescSalah - Willian - SchurrleRemy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 This is the game of Derby's season - nothing will get bigger than this, except maybe Play Off FinalAnybody expecting an easy game is just nuts.Yes they looked shit against Boro, because every single one of them was focusing on this game.High tempo, professional start with the big guns! If we can get to 3-0 at any point, then is the time to bring on the youngsters. I swear - if Jose played the kids and lost 99% of you would go fucking mental and this place would be in meltdown.Just chill out. the young lads will get there chance when ready, or sadly, when a key injury forces it. This is not the season to be experimenting ! We need to win some trophies ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 CechAzpi - Zouma - JT - LuisRamires - CescSalah - Willian - SchurrleRemyRami is not fit to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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