The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 @Jype, @The Skipper, @, @Daniel1980, I don't remember Remy even in his matches against us last season. It's a player that completely faded in my memory. What do you have to say about him? Asking you guys because we tend to assess players in the same way... It's pretty much been discussed before by some other guys but Remy is a real nice signing (if it happens) in my opinion simply because he adds a different profile to our strike force. As I mentioned before, we now have an all round, complete striker in Costa, a pace merchant/poacher in Remy and a target man in DD. Remy is a very good finisher and seems to be in the right position at the right time, plus his technique in general is good for someone who is mainly a poacher. Remy would be amazing to bring off the bench against tired legs when the game opens up tbh. At £8m it's a great signing, and if we can add to it by bringing in another good striker next year when DD retires, we'll have a strike force up there with City next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Oh please even Giroud scores double digits a season does that make him a good striker? Giroud isn't a top striker but he's a good striker, yes. Under appreciated by the Arsenal fans. I always say that if we had him here instead of Torres we might've won the title last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aexone 25 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 The difference between Remy and people like Gignac is that Remy is proven in the hardest and most competitive league in the world. He scored in France, he's scoring in England. The risk of buying, say, Gignac, who I do like as a player, is that he is completely unproven in the BPL. Remy would be a fantastic signing, especially due to the price to quality ratio. You'd have to pay a lot for the unproven players from abroad, but Remy is going very cheaply for how good he is. £8m for a player that without that release clause someone would pay ~£18-20m for? That's good business to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Nope, because I never rated Gignac at all, whilst it's different with Remy. Remy is a much, much better player than him. Would Gignac score 14 in 26 games in the PL? I don't think so.Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Actually Mou isn't behind this, we just got no other choice really and Jose wants 3 strikers in the squad. He probably prefers Destro more, but Roma is clearly not letting him go so we have to sign Remy.He may have preferred Destro, but why does that mean he cant like Remy? Jose and the board probably had many targets listed just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Yeah, because Remy has then proceeded to be "average" in the PL right....Question. Would you take Giroud as a 2nd choice here?I hope you have seen him in first season at Qpr. Giroud is better player, his allround game is better. Finishing about same. And I dont want Remy because he would be bad player. I dont want him because he is player who never gives 100% to the club. He doesnt give a shit realy. Thats why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 It's pretty much been discussed before by some other guys but Remy is a real nice signing (if it happens) in my opinion simply because he adds a different profile to our strike force. As I mentioned before, we now have an all round, complete striker in Costa, a pace merchant/poacher in Remy and a target man in DD.Remy is a very good finisher and seems to be in the right position at the right time, plus his technique in general is good for someone who is mainly a poacher. Remy would be amazing to bring off the bench against tired legs when the game opens up tbh.At £8m it's a great signing, and if we can add to it by bringing in another good striker next year when DD retires, we'll have a strike force up there with City next season.this thread has more than 10 pages made only today, I admit I was a bit lazy to go check and see if any of the guys I'd like to know the opinion had posted or not.Thanks and sorry for making you repeat yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Actually Mou isn't behind this, we just got no other choice really and Jose wants 3 strikers in the squad. He probably prefers Destro more, but Roma is clearly not letting him go so we have to sign Remy.Are you an ITK?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Why do some people want to spent 20 million + on a second choice striker ? You do realize whoever we sign will be sitting on the bench for the majority of the season right ?Remy is a good all around striker with a lot of pace. He's already used to playing in the PL so he doesn't need a lot of time to adapt. He's a proven goalscorer in the PL and he's cheap. Excellent signing if it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Gignac is overweight, doesn't have a right foot and is lazy. There is a reason 'Un big mac pour Gignac' is a saying.'EPL proven' is one of the most cringe-worthy idioms in world football.Not every player has to be incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I have. He did OK for QPR in his first (half) season tbh, considering QPR was an absolute mess at the time. 6 in 14 isn't that bad, that's almost 1 in 2. Giroud is definitely a better all round player than Remy but he isn't as clinical as Remy, no. And if that's the reason why you don't want him why didn't you say so from the get go. That I can slightly understand, but I still believe that at CFC that supposed attitude will either a) change as he's working under one of the best motivators in the world, or get him sold again. I'm more inclined to think that a will happen.I hope you have seen him in first season at Qpr. Giroud is better player, his allround game is better. Finishing about same.And I dont want Remy because he would be bad player. I dont want him because he is player who never gives 100% to the club. He doesnt give a shit realy. Thats why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Why do some people want to spent 20 million + on a second choice striker ? You do realize whoever we sign will be sitting on the bench for the majority of the season right ?Remy is a good all around striker with a lot of pace. He's already used to playing in the PL so he doesn't need a lot of time to adapt. He's a proven goalscorer in the PL and he's cheap. Excellent signing if it happens.By the sounds of it some people want to spend £50M on Cavani as the 2nd choice striker. Why don't we buy Pogba, Reus and Kompany as back up while we're at it eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherry33 234 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Not sure if it was already posted but this deal looks done.http://gianlucadimarzio.com/calcio-internazionale/chelsea-fatta-per-loic-remy-dal-qpr/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Gignac is overweight, doesn't have a right foot and is lazy. There is a reason 'Un big mac pour Gignac' is a saying.'EPL proven' is one of the most cringe-worthy idioms in world football.Not every player has to be incredible.Many people come to the PL and struggle. It is more likely a player will be a success at a club if he joins from a team in the same league, as he is already accustomed to the style of play, the tempo of play and the teams in the league. It's not cringe-worthy, it's a fact. Saying that what I just said is an idiom is like saying players being able to be in and out of form at any one time is an idiom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 this thread has more than 10 pages made only today, I admit I was a bit lazy to go check and see if any of the guys I'd like to know the opinion had posted or not.Thanks and sorry for making you repeat yourself.Nah that's not a problem at all Barbs, I just assumed that maybe you were following the discussion. Ask anytime, I don't mind at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I'm not sure what people are complaining about here? Remy would be the perfect 2nd choice striker. Cheap, EPL proven and brings something different to the team compared to our other strikers. He was always one of the ones I thought made most sense to replace Torres as our 2nd choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Gignac is overweight, doesn't have a right foot and is lazy. There is a reason 'Un big mac pour Gignac' is a saying.I brought up Gignac purely because of his goal-scoring record at Marseille. My point was, goal-scoring records aren't everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenIsLegend 475 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Not sure if it was already posted but this deal looks done.http://gianlucadimarzio.com/calcio-internazionale/chelsea-fatta-per-loic-remy-dal-qpr/Feel like this is you right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I have. He did OK for QPR in his first (half) season tbh, considering QPR was an absolute mess at the time. 6 in 14 isn't that bad, that's almost 1 in 2. Giroud is definitely a better all round player than Remy but he isn't as clinical as Remy, no. And if that's the reason why you don't want him why didn't you say so from the get go. That I can slightly understand, but I still believe that at CFC that supposed attitude will either a) change as he's working under one of the best motivators in the world, or get him sold again. I'm more inclined to think that a will happen.I did say his character is why i dont want him here a few pages ago...Its main reason why I dont want him here.I have feeling he is kind of player who works ass of to get big juicy contract and fancy club and then his performances drop to bang average.I assume 2nd striker will still play alot this season, I feel Mou will risk Costa as less as possible, probably replacing him in around 60/70min if we have good result. He will also start about 15 games, maybe more depending on cup's progress. As much I like Drogba, he looks like he cant run anymore, or at least does it very slow. I dont expect many goals from him, despite it would be nice. Anyway, spending 20m for second striker wouldnt be too much then, considering he will play alot, after all we have 35m Willian on bench too...Remy might work, but someone with more determination, inteligence and hunger for success would fit better here IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Many people come to the PL and struggle. It is more likely a player will be a success at a club if he joins from a team in the same league, as he is already accustomed to the style of play, the tempo of play and the teams in the league. It's not cringe-worthy, it's a fact. Saying that what I just said is an idiom is like saying players being able to be in and out of form at any one time is an idiom.Many players come to the PL and don't struggle.Many players move within PL clubs and do struggle.And vice versa.It is a pointless statement to make because it means nothing. Success in one instant does not in whatever shape or form gaurantee success in another.Prove to me that is's easier for a player to be a success at a different club in the same leauge without using anecdotal evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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