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9 minutes ago, Pizy said:

For that money they can have a signed photo of Diego Costa.

Problem is, we're not in a position to dictate negotiations, are we? 

His wages can only be paid either by a top team or China/US, he doesn't seem to want to go to China, there aren't any other top team who seem to want him (at least not yet) and we clearly don't want to keep a player who has made it obvious that he isn't happy and doesn't want to stay.

Unless we can get another team interested, we just don't have any leverage in this. 

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25 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Problem is, we're not in a position to dictate negotiations, are we? 

His wages can only be paid either by a top team or China/US, he doesn't seem to want to go to China, there aren't any other top team who seem to want him (at least not yet) and we clearly don't want to keep a player who has made it obvious that he isn't happy and doesn't want to stay.

Unless we can get another team interested, we just don't have any leverage in this. 

Agree on our position to negotiate. It's a mess no way we can get fair value for Costa.

But based on the interviews, and if taken at face value. He wants to stay, and makes it sound Chelsea are pushing him out.

 

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41 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Problem is, we're not in a position to dictate negotiations, are we? 

His wages can only be paid either by a top team or China/US, he doesn't seem to want to go to China, there aren't any other top team who seem to want him (at least not yet) and we clearly don't want to keep a player who has made it obvious that he isn't happy and doesn't want to stay.

Unless we can get another team interested, we just don't have any leverage in this. 

I would hope we aren't a club that will be held to ransom by Diego Costa. Either we get a fee we think is satisfactory or I hope we keep him. Conte was able to talk him off the edge so to speak in January. Maybe he can do it again.

Unless we're just desperate as hell to see the back of him, £26m is derisory for one of the world's best strikers. He's worth double that at least in today's market.

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What were you expecting, guys ? The time to sell him was this past January month. Now it is too late. He is a player which is no longer desired at his club and who no longer desire to stay there ; and moreover he has been heavily inconsistent during his time here while not improving one iota. Throw in the fact that he is not a player with a big marketing value and that teams are not queuing to acquire him, and you have on your hands a player that will be sold at a low price and/or for a price lesser than his previous purchase price. Remember, he was bought for only 32 million pounds — a loss of 6 million pounds is not "derisory" in light of the situation, quite the contrary actually.

All we can do now is to do "damage control" and hope we can lose only marginal money in regards to the amount we spent to get him. Actually his situation echoes that of Fabregas at Barcelona : a player who was no longer desired, who was inconsistent and who did not improve one inch. If I do recall correctly, the spaniard was sold for something between five and ten millions less than he was bought. In this regard, 26 million pounds for him appears to me as a fair deal. And to be honest, if the offer is true, we should let it go ; and instead of penny-pinching for a few bucks, we should be clever and negociate with Atletlico some kind of "first purchase option" for one of their players, or something along the lines.

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This situation tells everything about Costa.. One of the best strikers in the world but his club wants him out and no team are keen to sign him.. Atletico seem to be the only team that is willing to put up with his shit but they don't want to pay too much for him..

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the truth of the matter is Costa is not that good to command such fees in this situation. I don't know if i am the only one who sees it. Everyone saw how good he can be and how crap he can be, and the crap seems to outweigh the good. Lets take  Costa(bayern) for example. Bayern don't want him but they can command not less than 50m euros for him. look at James(madrid), it is fair to say he has no plans in real madrid, but he can command not less than 60m pounds. Another example is Salah. Roma need to sell in order to avoid fair play penalties on 30 june but they are commanding 40m euros for him because he is that good.

Now back to costa, every player can have crap periods but some players can't afford such periods or their value drops. Hazard can have a whole crap season and be sold for 80m pounds and i dont think costa can do same.

 if you where an owner of any big club would you pay 40m+ for costa in this current situation. No. Lets say it was the other way round and that chelsea are going to buy Costa from Atletico would you be happy as a fan if chelsea are going to pay the asking price of 50m when the club want him sold.

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43 minutes ago, Bernard N Y Burgesson said:

the truth of the matter is Costa is not that good to command such fees in this situation. I don't know if i am the only one who sees it. Everyone saw how good he can be and how crap he can be, and the crap seems to outweigh the good. Lets take  Costa(bayern) for example. Bayern don't want him but they can command not less than 50m euros for him. look at James(madrid), it is fair to say he has no plans in real madrid, but he can command not less than 60m pounds. Another example is Salah. Roma need to sell in order to avoid fair play penalties on 30 june but they are commanding 40m euros for him because he is that good.

Now back to costa, every player can have crap periods but some players can't afford such periods or their value drops. Hazard can have a whole crap season and be sold for 80m pounds and i dont think costa can do same.

 if you where an owner of any big club would you pay 40m+ for costa in this current situation. No. Lets say it was the other way round and that chelsea are going to buy Costa from Atletico would you be happy as a fan if chelsea are going to pay the asking price of 50m when the club want him sold.

Clubs dont want to pay because of his character. He is a loose cannon. Quality wise, worse players have been sold for more. 

In today market, he is definately worth at least 40m. Pickford was sold for 30m ffs.

But we will be forced to sell for less, because not many offers will come up due to his character and since Conte said he doesnt want him and Costa then said he played last game for chelsea, we must sell him for whatever someone offers.

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10 hours ago, Pizy said:

I would hope we aren't a club that will be held to ransom by Diego Costa. Either we get a fee we think is satisfactory or I hope we keep him. Conte was able to talk him off the edge so to speak in January. Maybe he can do it again.

Unless we're just desperate as hell to see the back of him, £26m is derisory for one of the world's best strikers. He's worth double that at least in today's market.

I guess, theoretically, we can keep him and he would have to perform his best especially with it being a WC year.

But I just don't think Conte is the type of manager who would include him in his plans after all he's said. And, in practice, I have a feeling that keeping him would not end well. He's a player who's level is reliant on his mood and keeping here unhappy probably won't help anyone and would only lower his value further. 

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8 hours ago, Bernard N Y Burgesson said:

the truth of the matter is Costa is not that good to command such fees in this situation. I don't know if i am the only one who sees it. Everyone saw how good he can be and how crap he can be, and the crap seems to outweigh the good. Lets take  Costa(bayern) for example. Bayern don't want him but they can command not less than 50m euros for him. look at James(madrid), it is fair to say he has no plans in real madrid, but he can command not less than 60m pounds. Another example is Salah. Roma need to sell in order to avoid fair play penalties on 30 june but they are commanding 40m euros for him because he is that good.

Now back to costa, every player can have crap periods but some players can't afford such periods or their value drops. Hazard can have a whole crap season and be sold for 80m pounds and i dont think costa can do same.

 if you where an owner of any big club would you pay 40m+ for costa in this current situation. No. Lets say it was the other way round and that chelsea are going to buy Costa from Atletico would you be happy as a fan if chelsea are going to pay the asking price of 50m when the club want him sold.

I see where you are coming from mate. I don't think anyone outside of Chelsea fans actually thinks Costa is 'world class'....whatever that means!

But regarding prices, the market is almost completely random, especially with new TV and sponsorship deals almost every year. We could 100% get 50m for Costa if say a club like PSG wanted him. I mean we almost got - what was it? 60m? 70m?- for him in Jan from China. 

I think the days were 'market value' and selling prices of players were an indication of anything are probably behind us.

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I think Atleti will want to make this relatively smooth, accept a decent price for him and lets all just move on. If they try to fuck with us and low ball I would almost rather we sit his ass down and just leave him to rot without playing as opposed to taking a shit price. Such a shame he is leaving like this and tarnishing all the fans memories of him.

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