Diego Costa

[DYC. 7,542]

Some people like football thugs, some people don't. It's that easy.

[Fulham Broadway 16,838]

now now, let me get this straight.

you used a dubious "goal/game" stat to somehow show that costa is world class and u want me to use logic. okay, sure!!!

anyways,

just by stats, costa has a 100minute/goal+assist ratio compared to 78 of aguero. lukaku has 105 and chicha has 99.

all the stats, show how exactly aguero is superior to costa in every thing.

also, let me get the latter part of your argument straight. just cos man city underperforms in the CL, means aguero is shit?

so before the last season when suarez was in liverpool and pool were not even in CL, means suarez was not world class? how are you extrapolating pelegrini's shit tactics of playing 4-4-2 at camp nou as aguero's limitation?

so costa is the only player to recover from an injury? with that "logic" aguero is god, cos he keeps getting injured but comes back like nothing has been missed and start banging them in for fun.

also, aguero did not shift to a new league, new team and blah blah blah in 11/12 which are also included in your stats? if i remember correctly city too won the PL that season adn aguero was a massive player for them.

lastly, 2 people have said the same thing about costa's position. aguero has played 72 appearance "behind dzeko/tevez/balo". (http://www.whoscored.com/Players/14260/History/Sergio-Agero)

so there is not much difference.

also, lets look at their overall play. costa is a "big" guy yet, his hold up play and ball shielding is average at best. look at yesterday to see what i am talking about. aguero's ball shielding is barely second to any striker in the world. his on the ball strength makes it a massive deal for the defenders to even get the ball off him. despite being a "big" guy, costa's aerial prowess is downright poor. lets not even compare aguero and costa's "dribbling" and "link up play". what is left is goal scoring which costa is great in as is aguero. but overall play wise, no where near.

simply said, given an option between the 2 to lead your team (you being the manager), i am sure majority of the people would take aguero in a heartbeat compared to costa.

So what you gonna do then keep pining for Aguero, or support Diego and Chelsea ?

[didierforever 7,349]

What has this boy done for Argentina?!

What has the "wonder-boy" Aguero achieved in the Champions-League against the big boys when it really mattered?

Hardly nothing!

the first argument can be given for messi too.

the second one would make suarez look stupid a year ago cos pool was not even in the CL.

that does not change the fact that suarez was a world class player even before joining barca and winning the CL. aguero has done anything in CL cos city have underperformed massively. pelegrini played 4-4-2 against barca, while trying to attack fire with fire, what did you think is going to happen in that case.

none of these makes aguero not a world class player.

[didierforever 7,349]

So what you gonna do then keep pining for Aguero, or support Diego and Chelsea ?

i will support costa. i dont need your permission for that.

but a certain poster on here, put in some dubious stats to compare aguero and costa. i am simply clearing his misbeliefs.

also, give me a sentence where i have been "pining" for aguero.

or wait, now if someone says that messi/CR are better than hazard, they dont support chelsea and hazard and are pining for messi/CR?

[Pacquiao 1,834]

now now, let me get this straight.

you used a dubious "goal/game" stat to somehow show that costa is world class and u want me to use logic. okay, sure!!!

anyways,

just by stats, costa has a 100minute/goal+assist ratio compared to 78 of aguero. lukaku has 105 and chicha has 99.

all the stats, show how exactly aguero is superior to costa in every thing.

also, let me get the latter part of your argument straight. just cos man city underperforms in the CL, means aguero is shit?

so before the last season when suarez was in liverpool and pool were not even in CL, means suarez was not world class? how are you extrapolating pelegrini's shit tactics of playing 4-4-2 at camp nou as aguero's limitation?

so costa is the only player to recover from an injury? with that "logic" aguero is god, cos he keeps getting injured but comes back like nothing has been missed and start banging them in for fun.

also, aguero did not shift to a new league, new team and blah blah blah in 11/12 which are also included in your stats? if i remember correctly city too won the PL that season adn aguero was a massive player for them.

lastly, 2 people have said the same thing about costa's position. aguero has played 72 appearance "behind dzeko/tevez/balo". (http://www.whoscored.com/Players/14260/History/Sergio-Agero)

so there is not much difference.

also, lets look at their overall play. costa is a "big" guy yet, his hold up play and ball shielding is average at best. look at yesterday to see what i am talking about. aguero's ball shielding is barely second to any striker in the world. his on the ball strength makes it a massive deal for the defenders to even get the ball off him. despite being a "big" guy, costa's aerial prowess is downright poor. lets not even compare aguero and costa's "dribbling" and "link up play". what is left is goal scoring which costa is great in as is aguero. but overall play wise, no where near.

simply said, given an option between the 2 to lead your team (you being the manager), i am sure majority of the people would take aguero in a heartbeat compared to costa.

No idea at all why you are talking about City underperforming in Europe and Suarez not playing in the CL for Liverpool, I never mentioned them or Aguero's performances in the CL. You do this a lot, you talk about random stuff in your replies that I have not even mentioned.

As for Costa's injury it was the type of injury that ends careers, where most players don't come back as the same player, that's why I mentioned it, but I take your opinion with a pinch of salt anyway as you are clearly biased, I bet even Aguero would tell you Costa is world class.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

i will support costa. i dont need your permission for that.

but a certain poster on here, put in some dubious stats to compare aguero and costa. i am simply clearing his misbeliefs.

also, give me a sentence where i have been "pining" for aguero.

or wait, now if someone says that messi/CR are better than hazard, they dont support chelsea and hazard and are pining for messi/CR?

you clearly are I just had to break down what Costa has done for his teams in the last 4 season since suffering a very bad injury, and you reply with more nonsense trying to say Aguero is still better, lets see if you are capable of answering these questions.

are you impressed with what Costa has done in his career since coming back from his injury in 2011?

do you think a player who isn't world class could have achieved what Costa has since 2011 and play such a key role like Diego?

lets see if you can answer those questions honestly.

[didierforever 7,349]

No idea at all why you are talking about City underperforming in Europe and Suarez not playing in the CL for Liverpool, I never mentioned them or Aguero's performances in the CL. You do this a lot, you talk about random stuff in your replies that I have not even mentioned.

As for Costa's injury it was the type of injury that ends careers, where most players don't come back as the same player, that's why I mentioned it, but I take your opinion with a pinch of salt anyway as you are clearly biased, I bet even Aguero would tell you Costa is world class.

"as well as guiding Atletico to the CL final scoring 8 goals again something Aguero could only dream of doing."

costa taking ATM to CL final was given as one of the reasons for him being as good as aguero or something aguero could only "dream of". hence city's performances in the CL came into question mark. ATM as a team went to CL final and almost won it, costa was an important cog (even though atm beat barca over 2 legs without costa) but not the main cog.

what has diego's injury got to do with him world class or not. we know he is a fighter (infact, sometimes, i forget he is a footballer). him coming off a massive injury is a testament to his character and will, not to him being world class. maybe i am biased. but if someone says hazard is better than messi, i ll be biased in that case too. simply cos its far from the truth.

[didierforever 7,349]

you clearly are I just had to break down what Costa has done for his teams in the last 4 season since suffering a very bad injury, and you reply with more nonsense trying to say Aguero is still better, lets see if you are capable of answering these questions.

are you impressed with what Costa has done in his career since coming back from his injury in 2011?

do you think a player who isn't world class could have achieved what Costa has since 2011 and play such a key role like Diego?

lets see if you can answer those questions honestly.

koke was a vital cog in ATM system when they won the league, went to CL final.

and no he is not a world class player.

so costa's acheivements have been impressive but it does not make him a world class player. filipe luis is not a world class player too, by the way and he has achieved as much as costa, and infact it was him and koke down the left which was ATM's main weapon. the loss of filipe hurt atm more than anything last season. costa got the goals, but in terms of importance, he was as important as those 2 or a 32 year old villa (who was not world class by then).

[Pacquiao 1,834]

"as well as guiding Atletico to the CL final scoring 8 goals again something Aguero could only dream of doing."

costa taking ATM to CL final was given as one of the reasons for him being as good as aguero or something aguero could only "dream of". hence city's performances in the CL came into question mark. ATM as a team went to CL final and almost won it, costa was an important cog (even though atm beat barca over 2 legs without costa) but not the main cog.

what has diego's injury got to do with him world class or not. we know he is a fighter (infact, sometimes, i forget he is a footballer). him coming off a massive injury is a testament to his character and will, not to him being world class. maybe i am biased. but if someone says hazard is better than messi, i ll be biased in that case too. simply cos its far from the truth.

I think that its fair to say Aguero would dream of taking City or any team to the CL final, it wasn't even an insult its what I believe is true.

[Fulham Broadway 16,838]

Yesterday on TV we had slo mo replays and sanctimonious commentating (only of Costas actions, not what Gabriel and Koscielny did beforehand).

Thank fuck we didnt have the internet and slo mo replays in the 60s, 70s. All those condemning Diego would have wanted Chopper Harris, Dave Webb and Rougvie sacked or lynched. As it is they are Chelsea legends.

[Fulham Broadway 16,838]

i will support costa. i dont need your permission for that.

but a certain poster on here, put in some dubious stats to compare aguero and costa. i am simply clearing his misbeliefs.

also, give me a sentence where i have been "pining" for aguero.

or wait, now if someone says that messi/CR are better than hazard, they dont support chelsea and hazard and are pining for messi/CR?

No but you seem to be giving Aguero a lot of attention. Good player, would love him at SW6 and Messi and probably the bullnecked Madeiran. As it is they are all foes on the horizon.

[Kieran. 6,317]

Love Diego, has to tone it back a notch but he knows what he's doing. And it works

[didierforever 7,349]

No but you seem to be giving Aguero a lot of attention. Good player, would love him at SW6 and Messi and probably the bullnecked Madeiran. As it is they are all foes on the horizon.

yes, they are players from different team or "foes", but u can give players their due, call a spade a spade, tell it exactly how it is and still support your team.

[Laylabelle 9,351]

Decision tomorrow apparently.be surprised if is let off without a ban

[bababoom 4,478]

He does need to tone it down, one can argue he's always in control and knows what he's doing but he could have easily been sent of many times over the past two seasons just by being silly. I'm all for him riling up defenders but it simply goes overboard once he starts scratching, pushing, swinging his arms etc...

[Essien19 1,415]

the first argument can be given for messi too.

the second one would make suarez look stupid a year ago cos pool was not even in the CL.

that does not change the fact that suarez was a world class player even before joining barca and winning the CL. aguero has done anything in CL cos city have underperformed massively. pelegrini played 4-4-2 against barca, while trying to attack fire with fire, what did you think is going to happen in that case.

none of these makes aguero not a world class player.

In my point of view, Messi isn't that bad for Argentina anymore.

During the World Cup 2014 he scored some crucial goals and made some good assists too.

The Copa America wasn't bad either, nowadays he steps up and takes responsibility, even if he gets the shit kicked out of him.

Aguero doesn't deliver in these tournaments, he looks like a fraud and a joke of a player.

As you said about Fabregas: Mr.No-Balls for me.

Luis Suarez is playing well for club and country.

Here do we have the first difference, performing well for your country.

The game against England in the World Cup 2014 was something else.

Nowadays he participates in the Champions-League and look at the games against PSG.

You are right, the strategy and set up is really important for the team, but year after year Aguero goes missing.

It's not just the game against Barcelona, it has become a phenomenon over all those years.

Yes, some of his companions do it too, is that enough for making an excuse?

I don't think so.

A World-Class player doesn't take no for an answer, he leads and puts himself out there.

I take a look at the whole package.

On his day, Aguero is good striker, Chelsea can sing a song about it.

But his refusal to man up under huge pressure in the international stage and his injury record which limits him a lot doesn't make him a better player than Costa, that's just my two cents worth.

[Essien19 1,415]

koke was a vital cog in ATM system when they won the league, went to CL final.

and no he is not a world class player.

so costa's acheivements have been impressive but it does not make him a world class player. filipe luis is not a world class player too, by the way and he has achieved as much as costa, and infact it was him and koke down the left which was ATM's main weapon. the loss of filipe hurt atm more than anything last season. costa got the goals, but in terms of importance, he was as important as those 2 or a 32 year old villa (who was not world class by then).

Simeone did moan a lot about the loss of Diego Costa, with all due respect to Filipe Luis, having a a good striker is something else.

Even though he wasn't fully fit, Simeone brought him into the Champions-League final, that shows you his value.

[didierforever 7,349]

In my point of view, Messi isn't that bad for Argentina anymore.

During the World Cup 2014 he scored some crucial goals and made some good assists too.

The Copa America wasn't bad either, nowadays he steps up and takes responsibility, even if he gets the shit kicked out of him.

Aguero doesn't deliver in these tournaments, he looks like a fraud and a joke of a player.

As you said about Fabregas: Mr.No-Balls for me.

Luis Suarez is playing well for club and country.

Here do we have the first difference, performing well for your country.

The game against England in the World Cup 2014 was something else.

Nowadays he participates in the Champions-League and look at the games against PSG.

You are right, the strategy and set up is really important for the team, but year after year Aguero goes missing.

It's not just the game against Barcelona, it has become a phenomenon over all those years.

Yes, some of his companions do it too, is that enough for making an excuse?

I don't think so.

A World-Class player doesn't take no for an answer, he leads and puts himself out there.

I take a look at the whole package.

On his day, Aguero is good striker, Chelsea can sing a song about it.

But his refusal to man up under huge pressure in the international stage and his injury record which limits him a lot doesn't make him a better player than Costa, that's just my two cents worth.

i agree with a lot of points that you have made, but strongly disagree with some.

lets start with messi. he was poor all throughout the knockout stages. cant remember a thing he did in the final. or against belgium or against switzerland. giving him the man of the tournament was one of the biggest farce i have seen ever. aguero played as a winger in the world cup just so messi could be slotted in the center. hardly a thing i would judge him on.

a question here, do u think suarez is world class? if yes, would suarez make a difference for city. if you swap aguero and suarez right now, would it make a difference. instead of "MSN" shit that goes on, people would be going crazy over "MAN", while man city would still be underperforming in CL. most of the matches in CL, city get their midfield get dominated. forget barca, if you have seen the cska moscow games, hell, their midfield got over run in those matches. the way city approach these games, i honestly doubt anyone except for messi would be able to make a change in place of aguero. so again, i cant judge him on that.

yes, he has not performed in the "biggest of tournaments" but he has a tremendous goal scoring record against us, against spurs, has scored against united or arsenal number of times. so i dont think he "chokes" under pressure or under performs under pressure or in big games, if that is what you were trying to say.

at the end of the day, i feel he is going to end up in RM next year or so. nothing would make me happier to see him gone. and then would be the proper time to judge him in the biggest tournaments.