James Rodríguez

[Fernando 6,453]

1 hour ago, petre.ispirescu said:

I'm actually worried to be fair. Watched his interview today, said he has offers and 7 days before giving a response. Reporter asked him "Can you assure the fans you're not leaving this winter? That you are staying in Madrid?" and James responded "No, I can not guarantee this."

Also said: "I want to stay here, but does not depend on me only, there is other things, so I have to think about my future. I want to play more and I want to be here, but sometimes things do not work and if I want to play more then I have to think about everything and be able to find a way out."

What a fucking way to be throwing the Oscar money away this would be.

Don't think this is throwing the money away. 

James it's clearly an upgrade to Willian and Pedro. 

A 3 of Hazard, Costa and James will be amazing. 

But the formation I don't know what will it be. But Conte is the Taylor and I know he wanted this guy before, and it's him pushing for this deal.

Edit: Some guy gave me this formation:

3-4-1-2 with James as the "1" would be amazing, at least on paper.

 

 

[Jase 43,479]

41 minutes ago, quickpassnmove said:

A loan would work for me. I'm very doubtful of the guy. He sounds like our very own Useless Memphis waiting to happen.

Putting the excitement aside, I am skeptical about signing Rodriguez too but after seeing what Conte has done with the team this season, I'm not ruling out the possibility of him making Rodriguez successful at the club. That's not to say we should just simply sign any player and have Conte turn them into star players, mind you.

Regarding the criticism of Rodriguez's weak mentality, him being lazy etc, I can understand where those are coming from but I also think they may be harsh and even off the mark. If Rodriguez has a weak mentality or is lazy as he's been made out to be, then I don't think he would bothered about leaving Real, would he? I mean, he could just choose to sit on the bench, earn big wages every week and win trophies year in year without playing much. He could choose to have that easy life but by wanting to leave Real and stating the desire to play week in week out, I see a player who is determined to succeed and want to contribute massively to winning things.

Let's not also forget that with the right coaching and man-management, Rodriguez can be an excellent player - as seen in Ancelotti's first reason at Real. He contributed tons of goals and assists and actually even worked hard - something that he's been accused of not doing enough - in their 4-3-3. He can be a star for the team under the right manager.

[Fernando 6,453]

36 minutes ago, Jason said:

Putting the excitement aside, I am skeptical about signing Rodriguez too but after seeing what Conte has done with the team this season, I'm not ruling out the possibility of him making Rodriguez successful at the club. That's not to say we should just simply sign any player and have Conte turn them into star players, mind you.

Regarding the criticism of Rodriguez's weak mentality, him being lazy etc, I can understand where those are coming from but I also think they may be harsh and even off the mark. If Rodriguez has a weak mentality or is lazy as he's been made out to be, then I don't think he would bothered about leaving Real, would he? I mean, he could just choose to sit on the bench, earn big wages every week and win trophies year in year without playing much. He could choose to have that easy life but by wanting to leave Real and stating the desire to play week in week out, I see a player who is determined to succeed and want to contribute massively to winning things.

Let's not also forget that with the right coaching and man-management, Rodriguez can be an excellent player - as seen in Ancelotti's first reason at Real. He contributed tons of goals and assists and actually even worked hard - something that he's been accused of not doing enough - in their 4-3-3. He can be a star for the team under the right manager.

I'm starting to get excited about the potential of James at Chelsea. 

Getting 60 million for Oscar and getting James is a superb deal. Something if you asked me last summer I thought it would never happen. As I thought we would only get 25 million or so for Oscar. 

Furthermore I'm more confident in this because I know this is a player that Conte wants. And seeing the work that Conte has done, we can cut him some slack. 

Besides it's not like he will be the next Fernando Torres......

[dkim2 73]

James is pretty much Mata. 

Slow - checked.

Cannot defend - checked.

Cannot dribble past defenders - checked.

Great shooting/passing - checked.

Poor ball keeping - checked.

This guy is just pure no.10. James at RW is worse than Pedro. It would be a huge waste of money. We need a dynamic, pacey, hungry, and ambitious player, not James. 

 

 

[BoyBlue96 990]

No please.

Özil yesterday showed exactly why you shouldn't go for Real rejects. 

James is slow, can't defend and I can already see the vids on Twitter of him refusing to press or track back. 

[Parky 739]

A loan to buy would probably be less risk especially at the price they're quoting. The guy has declined at RM but I still feel he has class and would be great if we employed a 3-4-1-2 system.

[LegenTerry 265]

16 hours ago, quickpassnmove said:

I don't have a suggestion on who should be bought as a RF/RW, but I want a fresh, pacey player who can also shoot and score. A player like Mane --if there are more out there, is a much better option than another attacking midfielder who was overpriced and hyped both before and after Madrid bought him. 

Seems to me that the player Conte wants will be able to play in the traditional trident or as a winger... IDK.

James seems like a reclamation project to me, so this is not just about James' skills, physique, nor his position/where he fits; it's also his mentality and history. ---YES--- there's no denying Rodriguez is a player with great potential but that is something that is far from being realized yet.

 

 Ousmanne Dembele !!!

[the wes 7,212]

http://www.squawka.com/news/antonio-conte-hints-at-january-transfer-activity-to-sustain-chelsea-title-charge/856407

Conte hinted chelsea could do transfer business in the January transfer window maybe this rodriguez rumour could be true 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

12 hours ago, Namika said:

James Rodriguez is a top class player, just below the Eden/Neymar/Bale class, look at his World Cup or his first year under Carlo with Madrid.

Yes and Torres was good once too.

It would be waste of money. Fucking waste of money.

Unless we strike loan deal, we will only throw money away to get wannabe galactico, out of form, not suited to PL or Conte, and realize in few months he was a waste of time and doesnt solve the problems.

Unless Conte wants to play 3:5:2, but good luck in prem without wingers.

I see James is huge name in football, but sigining him just because that (and he is only big name these days, not actualy that good), well we aint fuckin Real Madrid. Rather bring someone who is actualy gonna improve us. And lets not pretend there are no other options. If we are prepared to splash 60m for James, there is Lemar who we might get for half of that and is twice the player these days.

James would be so typical Torres, Sheva signing...all barking, no bite.

[Ledg 638]

Waste of money or not, from what I've read he has a 7-day deadline to decide if he wants to leave or stay. 

If he wants to leave, I think we'll get him cause I don't see any other big club rushing to buy him atm.

[Fernando 6,453]

You guys going to regret once again talking crap about a player before coming. 

Have you not learned enough by now? 

[Leif 6,006]

39 minutes ago, Fernando said:

You guys going to regret once again talking crap about a player before coming. 

Have you not learned enough by now? 

This is the sort of confidence I like, no sitting on the fence. He'll either make it, or he'll be shit, so take your sides now so we can then laugh briefly at the other side, whichever that is, if he ends up here.

Camaraderie is for war games, not forums.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

2 hours ago, Fernando said:

You guys going to regret once again talking crap about a player before coming. 

Have you not learned enough by now? 

Just expresing opinions, I thought forums were to share opinions and what not.

I think he will be bad here and not worth the price, but if he actualy does come here and turns out great, I will gladly eat my humble pie because if he ends up being great, it means chelsea will improve and we all want that.

To think one will regret after his opinion was proven wrong, is for pussies anyway. Embrace that shit.

[Jase 43,479]

4 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Yes and Torres was good once too.

TBF, Torres was already starting to go downhill before we bought him and why we did that even though it was rather obvious, I'll never know. With Rodriguez, he's in his mid 20s and hasn't even peaked yet. If Conte believes he's the guy to help improve us, then so be it.

[akgw13 867]

I think if we DO actually pull this off he will work out great. I saw on twitter if you view it as Oscar + 12 million it looks pretty damn good. We have been longing for a Left footed attacker who is a goal threat and can pick a pass no? James is a left footed attacker who is a long range goal threat and can pick a pass. Yes, he is slower than we all would have liked but he isnt Cesc/Alonso level slow. Plus we also have 7 men behind him who can cover up for him like we do with hazard, he has moses/Kante/Azpi behind him and Conte will drill him into at least a decent defensive performance. 

We have been complaining about Pedro/Willain for as long as i can remember and how bad we looked against teams who defend deeply. James could potentially solve BOTH problems and free up some tactical flexibility, while also taking some attention away from hazard/costa which frees up space for them.

Most importantly to me, if Conte wants him than I want him. He has shown he can get things out of players nobody expected. A solid defensive leader David Luiz? A well behaved Diego Costa? Hazard working to get the ball back? Matic the assist machine? Moses the stud RWB? Cesc a hard working professional demeanor super sub determined to earn his spot back?

James has something special in his left footed going forward and it could be exactly what we need to help us get to the next level. Plus if i said Oscar + 12 mill for James Rodriguez everyone would say "yes please" this wont deter us from spending in the Jan/Summer windows it is found money in my eyes.

[dkim2 73]

In modern football, where pressing / great ball keeping to get out of pressure are two key elements of success for biggest teams in Europe. Players who do not have that ability will likely fade away in big matches and will remain as liability. Mata, Ozil, etc.... James is prototypical of Mata/Ozil type of players. Slow like donkey, cannot and will not track back, have great kick, is famous name but doesn't have hunger. (have you seen Ozil yesterday once City player nicked ball from him, he just sigh and stopped tracking back?) 

I want hungry, pacey, ambitious player for Chelsea. Give me Ousmane Dembele over James Rodriguez any day of the week.

 

[Pizy 18,368]

Trying to imagine where he'd play and can only see him on our right side. Can't imagine we'd completely change from the 3-4-3 just for him. Thing is, we have both Pedro and Willian for that position already and while James is better than both, would either be happy riding our bench? And does James offer the same work rate as those two?

Im torn with this potential move. On the one hand he'd be awesome against these sides like Palace, Sunderland, Boro, and West Brom who defend for 90 minutes and sit deep. On the other, does he really fit into Conte's system(s)?

Be delighted if he comes but not bothered if he goes elsewhere.

[Styles 9,790]

9 hours ago, dkim2 said:

James is pretty much Mata. 

Slow - checked.

Cannot defend - checked.

Cannot dribble past defenders - checked.

Great shooting/passing - checked.

Poor ball keeping - checked.

This guy is just pure no.10. James at RW is worse than Pedro. It would be a huge waste of money. We need a dynamic, pacey, hungry, and ambitious player, not James. 

 

 

It seems that people don't care about suitability and just see the name. Honestly, world cup aside I've never been impressed by James.

I would genuinely go another season with Willian + Pedro than buy this guy.