Cesc Fàbregas

[iseah100 5,612]

I wrote in another thread that Americans love comparing players. This is like watching ESPN or Fox sports. Tactics, systems and analysis are like heavy math to them and they can barely do basic math.

That's stupid. Stats, analysis, and tactics are the most concrete way to compare players/teams. Numbers don't like, like in baseball WAR is a stat that measures everything a player does defense, offense, fielding, baserunning, etc. There is nothing wrong with it. Don't be naive, ever hear of sabermetrics? Look it up.

[11Drogba 2,000]

That's stupid. Stats, analysis, and tactics are the most concrete way to compare players/teams. Numbers don't like, like in baseball WAR is a stat that measures everything a player does defense, offense, fielding, baserunning, etc. There is nothing wrong with it. Don't be naive, ever hear of sabermetrics? Look it up.

When did I say that numbers lie or stats should not be used to compare players?

You know what is stupid? Discussing unrelated players for pages in the thread for Reus or comparing Thiago and Fabregas for pages here are stupid things to do.

[iseah100 5,612]

When did I say that numbers lie or stats should not be used to compare players?

You know what is stupid? Discussing unrelated players for pages in the thread for Reus or comparing Thiago and Fabregas for pages here are stupid things to do.

Maybe I misunderstood, but you said Americans like to do that, as if it's not a good thing to do.

Yes, Nike has been a joke in the threads the last few days, I totally 100% agree with you.[emoji106] [emoji109]

[11Drogba 2,000]

Maybe I misunderstood, but you said Americans like to do that, as if it's not a good thing to do.

Yes, Nike has been a joke in the threads the last few days, I totally 100% agree with you.[emoji106]

I see sometimes videos of Neville on youtube. I miss that kind of analysis now that I have only access to American sports channels. There used to be similar quality posts here, but for the last few days I feel like I am watching ESPN.

Maybe I overreact. I hope things will go back to normal after the break for the int. games.

[nyikolajevics 2,578]

Not as unnecessary as the stuff that Nike writes in every thread. Check out the last pages of the thread for Reus for example.

You are insulting Americans in your comments, not Nike..

[11Drogba 2,000]

You are insulting Americans in your comments, not Nike..

I teach in U.S. I know how good average Americans are in math. Its not that they are idiots. Its the education system and the culture. I think you are being too sensitive.

[nyikolajevics 2,578]

I teach in U.S. I know how good average Americans are in math. Its not that they are idiots. Its the education system and the culture. I think you are being too sensitive.

I am not sensitive but it's childis to write things like that. We could stick on debating like adults.

[Barbara 15,149]

From pages of Thiago to US being math dumb.

Can we please, just go back to Cesc?

It's been a while this thread has been about him...

[kellzfresh 7,229]

This thread

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

I'm completely forgot we have signed Cesc

[Rambo 1,729]

If you can execute those passes, vision comes naturally to you since the game slows down for you. Similar to american football or basketball, when your technique is superb the pass comes natural, especially when you have superior footwork...

That is also far from the truth. Just because you have good technique does not make things natural, especially with regards to vision which is something that can't be coached imo. For example, Willian is arguably our most technically gifted player after Hazard but that doesn't necessarily make him a player with good vision.

[Rambo 1,729]

He's played well against Madrid, United, Liverpool, Barcelona, and AC Milan (when they were a quality side), so there is more than enough evidence to suggest that he can perform

Against top sides. He's been doing so since the age of 18.

The level of disrespect to Cesc is quite blatant. Either he's a master troll or just that ignorant.

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

Can't forget this performance he displayed against a Legendary Milan side that were reigning European champions. First English team to beat Milan at the San Siro as well.

But you know, Cesc doesn't perform against quality sides...

[Dion 2,476]

http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/784995/Live/International-Int-Friendly-2014-Spain-Italy

http://www.whoscored.com/Players/74939/History/Thiago-Alcntara

http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/523351/Live

I love whoscored.com but their grading/rating system is ludicrous to say the least.

[Viper22 2,418]

I'm completely forgot we have signed Cesc

Then this is for you my friend. Watch what the man did on his debut. All bow to the Cesc.

[Special Juan 27,429]

Then this is for you my friend. Watch what the man did on his debut. All bow to the Cesc.

Pass of the season this.

[Viper22 2,418]

Pass of the season this.

Lets not get ahead of ourselves. Fabregas has another 40+ games to play. He could do literally anything in that time.

[Special Juan 27,429]

Lets not get ahead of ourselves. Fabregas has another 40+ games to play. He could do literally anything in that time.

Of course, but I am willing to bet Cesc won't play a better pass than that this season. The execution and pace is beyond anything you can teach.