Cesc Fàbregas

[didierforever 7,349]

Every era comes to an end at some point and at least to me it was always obvious that Barcelona simply can't keep being the best team in the world forever, this has been more than expected IMO. It's just the timing of Cesc's arrival that happened to be around Barcelona's downfall that made some people think he had something to do with it. Just look at the Spanish national team, it's also nowhere near as good as it was a few years ago and Fabregas has been a part of that team for almost a decade. Tiki-taka has been found out badly and the managers have had to think of some alternative tactics that have so far failed but I wouldn't say it's Fabregas' fault for not fitting in. Barcelona should have known what they were getting when they bought him three years ago, it's nothing like Torres because Cesc is still very much in his prime and hasn't declined at all but his direct style of play just has no place at Barcelona and the board should have thought about that before getting him.

Also, blaming him for Thiago's departure is unfair. Barca had the opportunity to sell Fabregas for £40m last year instead of letting Thiago go but they decided it's better to keep Cesc and let Thiago leave. If at the time they really thought Cesc is a cancer for the club that has set them back years, they would have been more than happy to take the money and run while keeping Thiago but the club decided against it. If anyone should be blamed for the club's failures in the past few years, it's the clueless and clearly corrupt Barcelona board. For years they've been ignoring their obvious problems in the CB department while signing players like Ibra, Sanchez, Neymar etc. for crazy money when it was obvious that they weren't really lacking in the attacking areas but I guess signing sexy big name attacking players makes for much better PR for the club president who only cares about being re-elected so he can continue to embezzle money from the club.

If they honestly expect to keep winning the treble every year and blame it all on one single player if they fail to do so, it's a prime example of being spoilt.

maybe that it was just cesc's arrival that co-incided with barca's downfall or that cesc's arrival was a MASSIVE catalyst in their downfall. also dude, saying "they could have sold cesc for 40mil last year" is like saying we could have sold torres for 20/30mil and kept sturridge. those are 2 very similar things that have happened to these clubs. we trusted and put all our eggs in the torres basket while barca did the same with cesc.

barca board is corrupt and what they SHOULD have done is pretty clear to every one, but here the thinking is about the fans. and it is not just about barca winning trophies that i am talking about, (forget about trebles). just watch the elche vs barcelona game at the end of the season and you will know the massive disgress in barca's general play.

like i said to sheva, torres is not the sole reason to all our problems but a "pivotal" one. same goes with cesc, infact more than torres i feel. hence atleast i can understand why their fans would be so adverse to him.

[Jype 6,398]

barca had the same defence of puyol-pique, mach-pique.

In the last four seasons Puyol has played just 61 league games out of 152 possible so they haven't really been able to rely on him much. Mascherano has played as an awful makeshift CB and in my opinion Pique has never been all that good to begin with and in his first few seasons at Barca was mostly just made look a lot better than he really is when he played alongside a world class Puyol.

Trust me, ignoring the huge need for a world class CB or two has played a massive role in Barcelona's decline together with some of the other things I mentioned earlier that have nothing to do with Cesc. Fabregas could have adapted better too so he's got to accept some of the blame as well but for the Barca fans to say it's all been his fault and closing their eyes to all the other obvious problems their club has had is just laughable.

[Barbara 15,149]

Just visited some Barcelona forum to read what they think about the transfer and I was shocked, it was almost identical to our Torres thread. The people were calling him a cancer for the club and just seemed so happy to see him gone. Amazing really, because at least statistically he was definitely one of their best players in his three seasons at the club despite mostly being played out of position and Barcelona's tiki-taka not suiting him well at all.

I know he always went out of form in the second half of the season but fucking hell, saying he was the cause of all their problems in the last three seasons is taking it a bit too far. Spoiled bunch of cunts that lot.

Learn something, my love, there's only one thing less classy, worse and more disgusting than Barcelona - the club: the culès. Their supporters are even worse than the club itself. And then if those fans become journalists is as low as people get. They have absolutely no class. Wasn't you who posted or at least commented on the official site writing shit about Cesc in his departure? What kind of club/fans do shit like that? Barcelona!!!!! And people talk shit about Los Blancos. I admit ever since Perez has been around the club lost a lot of class, but there's nothing worse than Barcelona in the whole world. The arrogance and the smugness are epic in addition to being disgusting, racist and classless.

[Nero 1,870]

FABREGAS IS NOW A CHELSEA PLAYER!!!

[Jype 6,398]

Learn something, my love, there's only one thing less classy, worse and more disgusting than Barcelona - the club: the culès. Their supporters are even worse than the club itself. And then if those fans become journalists is as low as people get. They have absolutely no class. Wasn't you who posted or at least commented on the official site writing shit about Cèsc in his departure? What kind of club/fans do shit like that? Barcelona!!!!! And people talk shit about Los Blancos. I admit ever since Perez has been around the club lost a lot of class, but there's nothing worse than Barcelona in the whole world. The arrogance and the smugness are epic in addition to being disgusting, racist and un-classy.

Yeah, the statement was distasteful to say the least. At least aside from few of the worst cunts out there that's something the Barcelona fans on the forum also agreed on and even though their feelings about Fabregas were quite clear most of them were still ashamed to see that their club would do something as low as that.

[didierforever 7,349]

In the last four seasons Puyol has played just 61 league games out of 152 possible so they haven't really been able to rely on him much. Mascherano has played as an awful makeshift CB and in my opinion Pique has never been all that good to begin with and in his first few seasons at Barca was mostly just made look a lot better than he really is when he played alongside a world class Puyol.

Trust me, ignoring the huge need for a world class CB or two has played a massive role in Barcelona's decline together with some of the other things I mentioned earlier that have nothing to do with Cesc. Fabregas could have adapted better too so he's got to accept some of the blame as well but for the Barca fans to say it's all been his fault and closing their eyes to all the other obvious problems their club has had is just laughable.

u r confusing 2 issues here dude. complaining about the board and complaining about the players. i have plenty of barca fans who are as unhappy with their board as they were with cesc.

not buying a wc CB was a decision by the board. a highly and mightily poor one. but given their players and squad, this barca side should still be winning the liga or qualify for SF of CL and in general playing a lot better than they have. barca buying someone ike luiz would have made them world beaters again, but even sans luiz or with just the current crop of CBs, they are still one of the best squads in the world. a squad that has under-performed massively. and one of the most important reasons for the under-performance is cesc. THAT's what i am saying. like i said in the previous post, watch the 90 minutes against elche to know how much they have regressed. and thats why i dont think its either laughable or being spoilt on their part to expect barca to win trophies with the current squad, neither massively blaming cesc.

[Fernando 6,585]

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/detail/article/cesc-fabregas-three-years-in-numbers

Don't see nothing wrong.

Maybe they changed it afterwards?

[Barbara 15,149]

Yeah, the statement was distasteful to say the least. At least aside from few of the worst cunts out there that's something the Barcelona fans on the forum also agreed on and even though their feelings about Fabregas were quite clear most of them were still ashamed to see that their club would do something as low as that.

but you can't blame the club when you call a player a cancer - especially when Cesc has done nothing in his whole career but say how much he loves that club. Barcelona (with their fans' support) did everything possible to take him out of Arsenal, saying he belonged there. Then a mere few months later they're treating him as if he was the worst and then when he's sold they call him cancer? Sorry, but that's not how you treat someone you profess your love and who loves you back and who has contributed to your club not being even worse. They used Cesc literally as the scapegoat to the failure their system became. Either because everyone learned how to play against them or because the key players were in a descend, the system failed, and blaming it on Cesc is ridiculous and clearly an excuse because they're too proud to admit they need to change.

Haven't you seen Xavi saying they'll die with their tiki taka but won't give it up? What kind of stupid pride is that?

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/detail/article/cesc-fabregas-three-years-in-numbers

WTF?! They Edited it?!

[DanishBlue 426]

They edited it, yeah.

[Jype 6,398]

Don't see nothing wrong.

Maybe they changed it afterwards?

Yeah they changed it, but at least yesterday the Spanish and Catalan versions still had the low parting shots they've now removed from the English one.

[Jase 43,479]

Fabregas speaking in a presser for the Spain NT..

[Madmax 9,219]

This is the key for me.

[Special Juan 28,133]

Jose :blue scalf:

[iseah100 5,612]

CESC CESC CESC CESC CESC!!!!!(: