nadavTKL 1,787 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 But yeah, I am not a big fan of having Fabregas and Matic as two deep midfielders when we defend. It makes Matic over work, and it makes Cesc burn out and lose the cutting edge and precision needed for his passing.Question is, how are we supposed to play? what are we supposed to do? playing Cesc in #10 means no Deep Lying Playmaker, no creativeness in center midfield, against the best teams when you need to move the ball quick it wouldnt work too well.If you want more steel and power in midfield the best solution for us is a box-to-box CM, someone who can defend well, link up well, attack well, obviously very dynamic, someone who would let Cesc stay as the DLP.Koke, Vidal, Pogba - they would make it work probably. I think Willian and Oscar (when in form) could play in a similar role, but to this point Willian isnt playing centrally, and when we're facing a strong team Oscar is benched for Ramires.I love Cesc as a player, think he is the 2nd most important player when we're attacking, but him as the DLP is proven to be a big problem for Jose and our development as a team. Jose is yet to find REAL solutions to this problem. His best solution is Ramires and he seems to think he cant get a better solution in this transfer window. I would take Witsel, but its mainly because im tired of Ramires and his nonsense, not because i think having Witsel (who is a DM who sits deep, similar to Matic) is the way to go or the missing piece we need to be complete. If Witsel would play here, after some time we'll all say the same - we're slow in the build up, we're attacking with four players max, we're predictable. "Its not ideal and we need better than that". We'll control games better than with Ramires, pass better, but Ramires on the other hand is box-to-box, he lets Cesc stay deep when the manager wants it, and he's joining the attacks around the box.Another problem which is the reason we cant regret buying Cesc or drop him or move him further up the pitch - there arent any world class DLPs in the market, never. It took us years to find Cesc available, and we were very lucky.As long as Koke and Pogba wont come to play for us, and there isnt a quality DLP in the market, the best solution IMO for this "Balance Problem" or "Big Games Problem" is in our own squad - Oscar (or Willian). Jose should work on getting Oscar-Matic-Cesc to be a reliable trio when defending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 ^^^Matic-Oscar-Willian.Think of it as the poor man's Maka-Lamps-Essien. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 ^^^Matic-Oscar-Willian.Think of it as the poor man's Maka-Lamps-Essien.or BALLACK BALLACK BALLACK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 He needs a workhorse next to him. Should give willian a shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 He'll be fine, just like the rest of the team. Mourinho won't move from 4-2-3-1, but a 4-3-3 with Oscar supporting him is still the system I like the most. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 If Fabregas produces a stinker today it will only strengthen my growing belief that he needs to be dropped in the big games / latter stages of Champions League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Pretty wasteful. But then again he also sucks in big games. Barcelona fans was right about this guy going missing in the big games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 As bad as anyone. Awful set pieces, bullied off the ball, no creativity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 He deserves to be benched for the next couple of big games. But the other options aren't good enough, to put it politely. Quite the dilemma. Blue-in-me-Veins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Pretty wasteful.But then again he also sucks in big games.Barcelona fans was right about this guy going missing in the big games.Is any of our players NOT missing in big games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Diabolical. Can't fully blame him though. A player like him is bound to look like a deer in the headlights playing for this Mourinho side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 You cannot bench Cesc when Jose parks the bus.Cesc is the designated set piece taker and hazard is the one man counter attack... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Sadly, it looks like his talent has been coached out of him and replaced with some basic slide tackling ability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 You cannot bench Cesc when Jose parks the bus.Cesc is the designated set piece taker and hazard is the one man counter attack... yeah has worked brilliantly so far.If this is the only reason to play Fabregas in a big game, I propse hazard also starts practising set pieces. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 One of our so-called best players but plays bad to average every time we play a top team.So bad sometimes he has to be hidden in different positions ( #10 role). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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