🇪🇸 Cesc Fàbregas

[Unionjack 7,531]

1 hour ago, Blue Armour said:

I could see potential lineups where Kovacic is asked to play the CDM role, and Cesc is tasked with being the creative force....In situations where both Jorginho and Kante require rest.

I'd also be OK with Mat K as Jorgi Boy cause hes got a good pass plus great in defense. IF Barkley wasn't available put Cescy up front.

[Vesper 30,175]

23 hours ago, Unionjack said:

I'd also be OK with Mat K as Jorgi Boy cause hes got a good pass plus great in defense. IF Barkley wasn't available put Cescy up front.

Barkley > Cesc alllllllllll day, allllllllll night

I still want to see if Ross can play RW. It sucks we only have 3 MF slots in the formation, as (I leave it to the others to come up with a good four MFer set-up) it would be great to have Kante, Kovacic, Jorginho AND Barkley all on the field at once.

[Unionjack 7,531]

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

Barkley > Cesc alllllllllll day, allllllllll night

I still want to see if Ross can play RW. It sucks we only have 3 MF slots in the formation, as (I leave it to the others to come up with a good four MFer set-up) it would be great to have Kante, Kovacic, Jorginho AND Barkley all on the field at once.

What and just use 2 up front?

I'm not saying totally that Barkles > Cescy - just quicker and better defending. But I could see him as a Jorgi or Mat K backup in games

[Vesper 30,175]

13 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

What and just use 2 up front?

No, that wouldn't work well, I do not think it would. There really isn't a way to do a 3 4 3 unless we did something like like

the old Cruyff 3 4 3

RCB Azpi

Sweeper (AC or Luiz)

LCB Rudiger

 

then a diamond MF

 

Defensive pivot MF (who also provides support to the back 3 aka the Destroyer role aka Kante)

Offensive pivot MF (Jorginho, who is the key engine room)

2 CMF/AMF  Kovacic and Barkley, they are zonal roamers and can play wide or occasional one goes up the middle with the diamond shifting to cover

 

RW Pedro or Willian

LW Hazard

CF Morata or Giroud

 

I think that might work, seems pretty damn offensive to me, and also gives cover to Luiz

 

off course, you have no Alonso in that

[Unionjack 7,531]

5 minutes ago, Vesper said:

No, that wouldn't work well, I do not think it would. There really isn't a way to do a 3 4 3 unless we did something like like

the old Cruyff 3 4 3

RCB Azpi

Sweeper (AC or Luiz)

LCB Rudiger

 

then a diamond MF

 

Defensive pivot MF (who also provides support to the back 3 aka the Destroyer role aka Kante)

Offensive pivot MF (Jorginho, who is the key engine room)

2 CMF/AMF  Kovacic and Barkley, they are zonal roamers and can play wide or occasional one goes up the middle with the diamond shifting to cover

 

RW Pedro or Willian

LW Hazard

CF Morata or Giroud

 

I think that might work, seems pretty damn offensive to me, and also gives cover to Luiz

 

off course, you have no Alonso in that

Cant remember if it was an article or a video interview by some pundit but they said something I never thought I would hear again

That we was totally dominant using a 2 3 5 formation!

From all the defending we have done over the past 'X' years it brought butterflies to my stomach with excitement just thinking about it

I know we are juxtaposing but right now I reckon we dont fuck with whats working so far. OK we could/should try some tweeks when given the chance but we gotta get the lads passing as their priority first.

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3 hours ago, Unionjack said:

 

I know we are juxtaposing but right now I reckon we dont fuck with whats working so far. OK we could/should try some tweeks when given the chance but we gotta get the lads passing as their priority first.

Zero tweeking (other than the player himself) to toss Barkley into the RW role.

I think he would be a beast, he is insanely fast, and pretty technical, and I really think he would score more, as he would have more open shots. I am a big fan, was so happy when we got him, I really think he needs to play upfront more.

As you have probably noticed, I don't rate a lot of English players, but he is one I do.

I rate (like, to be more accurate)

Kane (wish to fuck he wasn't on the team I hate more than any other on the planet)

Kyle Walker

Ryan Sessegnon

Ross Barkley

Trent Alexander-Arnold

Joe Gomez

CHO

RLC (I just wish he would play up to his insane athletic skills and body he has! so so so frustrating, same level frustrating as Morata)

Luke Shaw (to a point, as IF Alonso leaves and we cannot get  Alex Telles or José Gayà or Alejandro Grimaldo or Wendell (maybe), then I will absolutely take him (Shaw) as a LB. Alex Sandro is now, in reality, too old for me to advise to buy. If we got him next summer, we only get 17 months out of him before he hits 30, and as I have shown, there is fuckall for LB's. who are remotely WC who are over 28. As in TWO. Marcelo (who is shit for defence, do NOT want him) and Jordi Alba (again, I do NOT want him)

Angus Gunn (we need him as our b/u keeper, if the new rules from Brexit fucking clamp down on foreign players, and yes, I know he is part Scottish, so not pure English)

Mason Mount

James Maddison

Lewis Cook

Dujon Sterling

Fikayo Tomori

Kasey Palmer

 

 

[Unionjack 7,531]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Zero tweeking (other than the player himself) to toss Barkley into the RW role.

I think he would be a beast, he is insanely fast, and pretty technical, and I really think he would score more, as he would have more open shots. I am a big fan, was so happy when we got him, I really think he needs to play upfront more.

As you have probably noticed, I don't rate a lot of English players, but he is one I do.

I rate (like, to be more accurate)

Kane (wish to fuck he wasn't on the team I hate more than any other on the planet)

Kyle Walker

Ryan Sessegnon

Ross Barkley

Trent Alexander-Arnold

Joe Gomez

CHO

RLC (I just wish he would play up to his insane athletic skills and body he has! so so so frustrating, same level frustrating as Morata)

Luke Shaw (to a point, as IF Alonso leaves and we cannot get  Alex Telles or José Gayà or Alejandro Grimaldo or Wendell (maybe), then I will absolutely take him (Shaw) as a LB. Alex Sandro is now, in reality, too old for me toadvise to buy. If we got him next summer, we only get 17 months out of him before he hits 30, and as I have shown, there is fuckall for LB's. who are remotely WC who are over 28. As in TWO. Marcelo (who is shit for defence, do NOT want him) and Jordi Alba (again, I do NOT want him)

 

I'm feel pretty much the same about all of them

Totally open to giving Barkles a shot at RW for the same reasons you said

My fave LB eould be Telles in this team. mkust have got peeps here fed up wamting him but I dont see us having a chance of him. I also do like Shaw but I think that boat has sailed to as I', sure Manure will give him a new contract what with Maureens turn around on him.

So we either stump up for one of theses big names or we go down a peg or 2

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2 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

I'm feel pretty much the same about all of them

Totally open to giving Barkles a shot at RW for the same reasons you said

My fave LB eould be Telles in this team. mkust have got peeps here fed up wamting him but I dont see us having a chance of him. I also do like Shaw but I think that boat has sailed to as I', sure Manure will give him a new contract what with Maureens turn around on him.

So we either stump up for one of theses big names or we go down a peg or 2

We could easily get Telles, but Marina and twats don't rate him, nor did they rate the perfect Sarriball RB, João Cancelo

[11Drogba 2,000]

 

[El P. 1,354]

Trading him for some quality centre-back would be perfect. But in that case we should really sell Drinkwater and Cahill (maybe even Luiz) so Ampadu and AC could get more chances.

[the wes 7,212]

Chelsea are in danger of losing Cesc Fabregas, 31, on a free transfer to either Inter Milan or AC Milan in January with the Spaniard's contract at Stamford Bridge set to expire at the end of the season. (Express)

I don't think many Chelsea fans will be losing sleep over this move away from the bridge

[goffus 16]

Am i the only one who ve been impressed with him? He looked good in Jorghino's role. He might play a key role for deep runs in cups and keeping jorghino fresh.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

8 minutes ago, goffus said:

Am i the only one who ve been impressed with him? He looked good in Jorghino's role. He might play a key role for deep runs in cups and keeping jorghino fresh.

He's the only other one we have that can really play that role.  Everyone was quick to write him off in Conte's first season.  But he changed his game as well as he could.  That caught up to him last year, but a 2 man midfield is just asking for too much from him.  Yeah, he doesn't have the legs anymore, but having 70% of the ball certainly helps in that regard.  His passing and tactical awareness are still there.

[Vybzkartel 284]

Cesc is done at this level man, he has to be carried so much by players around him. I would keep him as a bench option, he has an eye for a good pass so when we need a goal he might be a good option off the bench. 

[the wes 7,212]

Cesc Fabregas, 31, will have to wait until the new year before new contract talks at Chelsea will begin. (Evening Standard)

[manpe 10,861]

Why are we only hearing about contract extensions to players who shouldn't get one?

[Johnnyeye 7,509]

5 hours ago, manpe said:

Why are we only hearing about contract extensions to players who shouldn't get one?

its our board thats why

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

On 03/11/2018 at 11:11 PM, manpe said:

Why are we only hearing about contract extensions to players who shouldn't get one?

Honestly I disagree, we don't have a like for like sub for Jorginho, Cesc is the only player in the squad who can play that role. Sure his legs arent what they were, hes never been the strongest or fastest anyway but technically he is still a good option in that role. Good experienced player to have in the squad and if hes willing to stay here and do that role again next season why not? Football is a squad game as much as anything these days. Also we have more pressing concerns in other places like upfront, central defence and out wide with Willian and Pedro's inconsistencies, they should be addressed first. 

[LAM09 7,052]

Why are we only hearing about contract extensions to players who shouldn't get one?

It can be done easily

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6 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Honestly I disagree, we don't have a like for like sub for Jorginho, Cesc is the only player in the squad who can play that role. Sure his legs arent what they were, hes never been the strongest or fastest anyway but technically he is still a good option in that role. Good experienced player to have in the squad and if hes willing to stay here and do that role again next season why not? Football is a squad game as much as anything these days. Also we have more pressing concerns in other places like upfront, central defence and out wide with Willian and Pedro's inconsistencies, they should be addressed first. 

Sarri has the perfect back-up, future Jorginho on his shopping list, Sandro Tonali. The lad is going to be something special I think.