This time next year...

[LDN Blue 7,903]

People seem to forget that Liverpool/Spain completely fucked his knee so he would be fit for the World cup!

Afaik, that was Torres' decision. I seem to remember even further that he was told about such ramifications and continued anyway

[Chelsea? 892]

please explain how Mourinho failed? when in actual fact he made huge progress while cleaning up Rafa's mess! please enlighten us.

Rafa's teams was more exciting to watch. not sure how Jose cleaned up

[Chelsea? 892]

oh so it was Rafa who won us the EL then was it?

So by that logic it was Rafa's fault why we lost the Carling Cup and CWC! 2 trophies that were there on a plate for him to win but he failed miserably! It was our players who won us the EL not Rafa! if he couldn't even win us 2 trophies that were on a plate for him, so its a bit ridiculous to put the EL win down to him.

btw reaching the CL Semi final is a much much bigger achievement then winning the EL! as Rafa would say FACT!

Rafa left the team with no balance and no identity! Jose had to fix that mess when he came in! FACT!

what logic is this?? your blaming him for things we didn't win but not crediting him for our wins?

This team we have now is more unbalanced than we were at this point last year. parking a bus isn't that hard

[iseah100 5,612]

what logic is this?? your blaming him for things we didn't win but not crediting him for our wins?

This team we have now is more unbalanced than we were at this point last year. parking a bus isn't that hard

... more balanced? Umm.... no? We're better defensively and fixed holes. Rafa patched things, didn't fix them. Don't be ignorant.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I do not care more about Torres than about the Club, I spend a hell of a lot of money flying to games a couple of times a month from Scotland, club hotel etc, buy 3 shirts every year, sub to chelsea TV eat in and drink in the clubs restaurants before the game...

And yet you bitch and moan about this club constantly and show no connection with the optimism that the majority of fans have and the belief in Jose that most share.

I'm sure plenty of tourists going to games are like that.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Rafa's teams was more exciting to watch. not sure how Jose cleaned up

not really! being terrified of Man City under Rafa wasn't very exciting all! if you cant see how Jose spent the first 6 months of the season cleaning up Rafa's mess then i really dont know what more to say.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

what logic is this?? your blaming him for things we didn't win but not crediting him for our wins?

This team we have now is more unbalanced than we were at this point last year. parking a bus isn't that hard

Lol you don't understand the point i was making.

please explain how the team is more unbalanced now???

and please explain how its easy to park the bus, when 90% of teams do it against Barca and Bayern and fail! or is it just easy for us to play that way, or are you just copying Rodgers pathetic comments after we beat Liverpool?

[lionsden 4,689]

It's completely irrational and mind boggling how Torres can still have bootlickers and stans in 2014. He does have a flock of dedicated and loyal sheep fans that's for sure.

[Viper22 2,418]

Rafa's teams was more exciting to watch. not sure how Jose cleaned up

Let's just wait and see how many trophies the special one wins next season, then I'll judge him again!

I do not care more about Torres than about the Club, I spend a hell of a lot of money flying to games a couple of times a month from Scotland, club hotel etc, buy 3 shirts every year, sub to chelsea TV eat in and drink in the clubs restaurants before the game...

I think people are Blinded by Jose's "record" you are only as good as your last game....or season in a Managers case, and in this case? well he failed surely? I can't see Roman telling him " It's ok if you don't win a trophy in your first year back'

I'm sorry a players/managers History means nothing to me, It's what they do in the present!

would you Sign Messi in 20 years and play him, Just because " his record is brilliant?

no.

[Reddish-Blue 2,489]

We will have won the league & Courtois will be our #1 keeper

[Special Juan 28,096]

We will have won the league & Courtois will be our #1 keeper

Some much needed positivity.

[gary gordon 1,777]

I'm flabbergasted at some of the shit I've read here tonight. How can any so called Chelsea "supporters" second guess Jose Mourinho? The man doesn't need to win a trophy every year to be called successful. He is one of the best man managers in the world. I think I'd rather take the word of player's that have actually played for him then some moron, Torres fanboy or similar.

Since some of the brainless morons want to compare Jose with managers (can't bring myself to type his name) from the previous season. Here are our stats vs the best teams of this season. Keep in mind in 2012-2013 Liverpool were nowhere near the team they were this season, yet we struggled to take 2 point's off them. Even though United were weaker this season, Everton and City were both much stronger. Arsenal, well they're just shit every year..

2012-2013

Arsenal 1-2 Chelsea

Tottenham 2-4 Chelsea

Chelsea 2-3 Man united

Chelsea 1-1Liverpool

Chelsea 0-0 Man City

Everton 1-2 Chelsea

Chelsea 2-1 Arsenal

Man City 2-0 Chelsea

Liverpool 2-2 Chelsea

Man United 0-1 Chelsea (United had already wrapped up the title)

Chelsea 2-2 Tottenham

Chelsea 2-1 Everton

19 goals scored 16 conceded

22 points taken from our rivals

2013-2014

Chelsea 2-1 Man city

Man City 0-1Chelsea

Chelsea 2-1Liverpool

Liverpool 0-2Chelsea

Man United 0-0Chelsea

Chelsea 3-0 Man united

Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea

Chelsea 6-0 Arsenal

Tottenham 1-1Chelsea

Chelsea 4-0Tottenham

Everton 1-0 Chelsea

Chelsea 1-0 Everton

22 goals scored 4 conceded

27 points taken from our rivals

That's 1 loss in 12 massive games this season. I don"t know about you guys, but i'd much rather that then some shitty Budweiser Cup or Capital One cup. Those results make us undoubtedly the most feared team in England. I couldn't give a fuck what any of you say. City have the most expensive EPL team in history and Liverpool played 14 less games then us this season and we knocked them both off.

We missed out by a some stupid slip-up that nobody can blame Jose for.

For those who don't believe me, in 2012-2013

we drew with:

• QPR away
• Swansea away
• Fulham at home
• Southhampton at home
• Reading away.

Apart from the games we lost to the top teams, we also lost to:

• West Brom away
• West Ham away
• QPR at home
• Newcastle away
• Southhampton away

So the rot was there long before Jose even got here.

These are the cold hard facts. Do with them what you please.. Just leave Jose out of it..

BTW, Sorry for going off topic, What do i hope for this time next year? Premier League domination and a fair crack at the UCL again. Any else is a bonus.

[Special Juan 28,096]

I'm flabbergasted at some of the shit I've read here tonight. How can any so called Chelsea "supporters" second guess Jose Mourinho? The man doesn't need to win a trophy every year to be called successful. He is one of the best man managers in the world. I think I'd rather take the word of player's that have actually played for him then some moron, Torres fanboy or similar.

Since some of the brainless morons want to compare Jose with managers

Gary, your post was very detailed and a good read, but at the same time let's not throw insults in there. Your point could of been put across without doing that. People have differences of opinion whether you agree or not, but let's not roll out words such as the highlighted.

Thanks.

[The Skipper 20,609]

I'm flabbergasted at some of the shit I've read here tonight. How can any so called Chelsea "supporters" second guess Jose Mourinho? The man doesn't need to win a trophy every year to be called successful. He is one of the best man managers in the world. I think I'd rather take the word of player's that have actually played for him then some moron, Torres fanboy or similar.

Since some of the brainless morons want to compare Jose with managers (can't bring myself to type his name) from the previous season. Here are our stats vs the best teams of this season. Keep in mind in 2012-2013 Liverpool were nowhere near the team they were this season, yet we struggled to take 2 point's off them. Even though United were weaker this season, Everton and City were both much stronger. Arsenal, well they're just shit every year..

2012-2013

Arsenal 1-2 Chelsea

Tottenham 2-4 Chelsea

Chelsea 2-3 Man united

Chelsea 1-1Liverpool

Chelsea 0-0 Man City

Everton 1-2 Chelsea

Chelsea 2-1 Arsenal

Man City 2-0 Chelsea

Liverpool 2-2 Chelsea

Man United 0-1 Chelsea (United had already wrapped up the title)

Chelsea 2-2 Tottenham

Chelsea 2-1 Everton

19 goals scored 16 conceded

22 points taken from our rivals

2013-2014

Chelsea 2-1 Man city

Man City 0-1Chelsea

Chelsea 2-1Liverpool

Liverpool 0-2Chelsea

Man United 0-0Chelsea

Chelsea 3-0 Man united

Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea

Chelsea 6-0 Arsenal

Tottenham 1-1Chelsea

Chelsea 4-0Tottenham

Everton 1-0 Chelsea

Chelsea 1-0 Everton

22 goals scored 4 conceded

27 points taken from our rivals

That's 1 loss in 12 massive games this season. I don"t know about you guys, but i'd much rather that then some shitty Budweiser Cup or Capital One cup. Those results make us undoubtedly the most feared team in England. I couldn't give a fuck what any of you say. City have the most expensive EPL team in history and Liverpool played 14 less games then us this season and we knocked them both off.

We missed out by a some stupid slip-up that nobody can blame Jose for.

For those who don't believe me, in 2012-2013

we drew with:

• QPR away
• Swansea away
• Fulham at home
• Southhampton at home
• Reading away.

Apart from the games we lost to the top teams, we also lost to:

• West Brom away
• West Ham away
• QPR at home
• Newcastle away
• Southhampton away

So the rot was there long before Jose even got here.

These are the cold hard facts. Do with them what you please.. Just leave Jose out of it..

BTW, Sorry for going off topic, What do i hope for this time next year? Premier League domination and a fair crack at the UCL again. Any else is a bonus.

Don't even know why you wasted your time pal, he was not worth this at all.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Someone will have ended the corruption by usurping power here at TC and putting Alex's head on a spike (ban).

Banned.