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And bad officiating or do we just forget that?

That is not the reason we lost. Did you not forget Ramires should have been sent off. That was the most obvious call he could have made but he did not. Blaming the ref is just not accepting responsibilites for our loss.

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Some decisions did not go our way in the match and same with Sunderland but this is going OTT with this conspiracy stuff for Liverpool to win the league. Remember when we played Liverpool at the Bridge earlier in the season. Eto'o should have been sent off. One for a studs up challenge on Henderson IIRC and made a blatant foul on Suarez in the penalty box which Webb ignored. We were very lucky as Eto'o made 2 clumsy challenges which he got away with.

When we drew with WBA earlier this season it was a clear dive from Ramires to win get the penalty. Had that not of been given we would have lost 2-1 at home. The ref saved our ass that game. Had their really been an agenda for Liverpool to win the league, the ref would not have sent off Chico for his challenge last week but he did

Decisions that don't go our way happens but decisions that go our way which have been fortunate have also happened. It is 50/50 really.

We only have ourselves to blame.

If you think it has been 50 /50 no point in discussing with you

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That is not the reason we lost. Did you not forget Ramires should have been sent off. That was the most obvious call he could have made but he did not. Blaming the ref is just not accepting responsibilites for our loss.

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That is not the reason we lost. Did you not forget Ramires should have been sent off. That was the most obvious call he could have made but he did not. Blaming the ref is just not accepting responsibilites for our loss.

Have you read back my posts on this subject? If you are going to start pointing the finger on a forum then read up please.

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If you think it has been 50 /50 no point in discussing with you

Have you read back my posts on this subject? If you are going to start pointing the finger on a forum then read up please.

I have given my explanations in the previous posts. I am not disagreeing that we have had decisions against us for sure but there have been games where the ref has let us off the hook. Ultimately our team has not been good enough to win these type of games.

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That is not the reason we lost. Did you not forget Ramires should have been sent off. That was the most obvious call he could have made but he did not. Blaming the ref is just not accepting responsibilites for our loss.

Some say STATS dont lie ,,, but we know much better

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I have given my explanations in the previous posts. I am not disagreeing that we have had decisions against us for sure but there have been games where the ref has let us off the hook. Ultimately our team has not been good enough to win these type of games.

I have given mine, where do we draw the line? It's all debate, but the decisions have been hideous.

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Gus Poyet apologised to Chelsea for trashing their title hopes and admitted: “I said we needed a miracle – and we got one.”



And Poyet shrugged: “To be the first team somehow to beat Mourinho’s Chelsea at home is a privilege – and a little bit of mixed emotions. I played here and I know how important this game was for them.



What I have done to their title hopes is bad, but I’m sorry – I was just doing my best for Sunderland, I cannot do anything different.



“I hope I will feel less guilty if Chelsea go on to win the Champions League, because I am still good friends with everybody here, and I would like them to keep winning.


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That is not the reason we lost. Did you not forget Ramires should have been sent off. That was the most obvious call he could have made but he did not. Blaming the ref is just not accepting responsibilites for our loss.

First things first, Rami got a kick first but as usual nothing gets said he then over reacted and should of gone but let's forget that Johnson should of gone first for his karate kick to Aspi, no? My belief is that you can forgive the officials for the odd mistake during games but there were so many bad decisions in that one game alone that it is hard to wonder why these officials are full time pro's? If they would perform to a level of consistency then I'm sure the conspiracy theories wouldn't get any daylight, sure we have had some luck which are for the large part one off decisions the very same as when we should of had a pen at Everton and then went on to lose the game.....

What's irking fans are that we have lost 2 games recently where refs in both games (Villa also) have made so many bad calls in 90 minutes & all but most of those decisions has gone against us in a crucial run in, some could also argue that Liverpool have been getting some favourable decisions especially where pens are concerned.

However having said all that we have to ensure that we put ourselves in a position to not worry about the incompetence of piss poor officiating, the world and his brother no we need a goalscorer and I think its already been said that our decision making in the final third is just as shocking as the officials.

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Gus Poyet apologised to Chelsea for trashing their title hopes and admitted: “I said we needed a miracle – and we got one.”

And Poyet shrugged: “To be the first team somehow to beat Mourinho’s Chelsea at home is a privilege – and a little bit of mixed emotions. I played here and I know how important this game was for them.

What I have done to their title hopes is bad, but I’m sorry – I was just doing my best for Sunderland, I cannot do anything different.

“I hope I will feel less guilty if Chelsea go on to win the Champions League, because I am still good friends with everybody here, and I would like them to keep winning.

Well done to Poyet. He had a very good game plan. At least its one of our own that has taken the record away from us.

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well yeah, but i'm just saying about the actual pen he did give, he didn't give it lol. he also didn't send off Ramires, so you know..

sometimes a player gets send off and that ignites the team and they actually play better than before, but when ramires got shoved as he about to head that sitter that was not only a last man sending off for sunderland but also a penalty

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A very fair analysis of the refereeing decisions by former PL referee Dermot Gallagher:

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9276384

Most interestingly we've finally heard someone admit the push on Ramires was a foul!

Earlier, Larsson had eased Ramires off the ball when he seemed certain to extend Chelsea's lead and Gallagher believes Dean got that decision wrong: "I did think that was a penalty because Ramires was about to head the ball into the net - and it would have been a red card," he told Sky Sports News. "The referee did not deem that to be a penalty for whatever reason."

What I don't get is why the players didn't even complain about any of the major decisions - the push on Ramires, penalty, Terry goal, etc. I mean how many times have we seen referees influenced by players' reactions, most notably the Newcastle goal disallowed against City because of the players' complaints even though the ref couldn't actually see it; and also Liverpool's penalty against West Ham that the referee wasn't going to give until he saw Suarez's reaction. Obviously I don't want our players to be moaning cunts but they could at least appeal and put doubt in the referee's mind FFS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOvZLg1QkUo

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