Toli 977 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 being physically well build isnt everything. he still has his flaws, especially in terms of on-the ground battles and positioning. I think he needs 1-2 years at least before we can talk about him being a starting-lineup defender for our side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1chelsea 864 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 being physically well build isnt everything. he still has his flaws, especially in terms of on-the ground battles and positioning. I think he needs 1-2 years at least before we can talk about him being a starting-lineup defender for our side.There is no one without flaw not even the best defender is perfect we all have to deal with is flaw and make him better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 There is no one without flaw not even the best defender is perfect we all have to deal with is flaw and make him betterthere is difference between an 19 year old kid or somebody who is 25 and already playing football for years at high level. especially at young age you make much more mistakes and you have much more flaws. he will be more a long-term solution but not somebody who will help us short-term. and i doubt that our club will wait for a player 2 or 3 years to develop. I dont see him at Varanes level, who performed at a high level immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Varane was quite average in first season, but exploded in second... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Varane was quite average in first season, but exploded in second...Varane showed his talent from the beginning. he wasnt used that much in his 1st season, yes, but you could see his talent from day 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Varane showed his talent from the beginning. he wasnt used that much in his 1st season, yes, but you could see his talent from day 1.Same as Zouma...but neither of them was ready to be starter in first season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Same as Zouma...but neither of them was ready to be starter in first season.And in the second season he exploded in the middle of the season, the games he made in the begining of the season were were not that goodl. I don't think we need right know another CB but maybe if it's a young boy we can give him 15 games next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Been linked to him again by the TimesChelsea are vying with Inter Milan for Kurt Zouma, the 19-year-old central defender who has been earmarked as a future France captain by the country's coach Didier Deschamps.http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/premierleague/article3971976.ece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,503 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Been linked to him again by the Timeshttp://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/premierleague/article3971976.eceIf we can get him for 10 million, it seems like a good dealI wouldn't mind Terry, Cahill, Luiz & Kouma as our four CB's going into next season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Kurt Zouma’s agent has claimed that “it’s a three-horse race” between Inter, Chelsea andMonaco for the St-Etienne defender.http://asia.eurosport.com/football/serie-a/2011-2012/zouma-inter-chelsea-or-monaco_sto4083821/story.shtmlChelsea are tracking £12m-rated teenage tearaway Kurt Zouma to boost their defence. (Source: The Times) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 we have chalobah, kalas, ake as our youth players so why do we need a 10/12mil pound player as our 4th CB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Kurt Zouma’s agent has claimed that “it’s a three-horse race” between Inter, Chelsea andMonaco for the St-Etienne defender.http://asia.eurosport.com/football/serie-a/2011-2012/zouma-inter-chelsea-or-monaco_sto4083821/story.shtmlChelsea are tracking £12m-rated teenage tearaway Kurt Zouma to boost their defence. (Source: The Times)It's obvious that our name is just being thrown in there to raise the price. If we were in a "race" with Inter and Monaco we would have already signed him. They can't compete with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 we have chalobah, kalas, ake as our youth players so why do we need a 10/12mil pound player as our 4th CB?It wouldn't be typical Chelsea if we don't spend unwisely in the transfer window and neglect our own youngsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 It wouldn't be typical Chelsea if we don't spend unwisely in the transfer window and neglect our own youngsters.yup. kalas' non-involvement (even in the domestic cups) has been shocking!!! i just hope atleast one of these 3 makes it big here. ake would be my best bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 we have chalobah, kalas, ake as our youth players so why do we need a 10/12mil pound player as our 4th CB?Because maybe Zouma is a better player than any of those three? Even if we got Zouma, there's still more than enough room for some other youth players to break through because it's not like Terry can go on forever, the future of Luiz is by no means certain and both Cahill and Luiz are 30 year this year as well. We'll be needing some fresh blood for our CB department sooner or later so why not get one of the hottest centre-back prospects in the world when he's still available for a reasonable price rather than wait till the problem gets so urgent that we end up spending massively for some proven world beater anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Because maybe Zouma is a better player than any of those three? Even if we got Zouma, there's still more than enough room for some other youth players to break through because it's not like Terry can go on forever, the future of Luiz is by no means certain and both Cahill and Luiz are 30 year this year as well. We'll be needing some fresh blood for our CB department sooner or later so why not get one of the hottest centre-back prospects in the world when he's still available for a reasonable price rather than wait till the problem gets so urgent that we end up spending massively for some proven world beater anyway?Cahill just turned 28 and Luiz is 26 mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Because maybe Zouma is a better player than any of those three? Even if we got Zouma, there's still more than enough room for some other youth players to break through because it's not like Terry can go on forever, the future of Luiz is by no means certain and both Cahill and Luiz are 30 year this year as well. We'll be needing some fresh blood for our CB department sooner or later so why not get one of the hottest centre-back prospects in the world when he's still available for a reasonable price rather than wait till the problem gets so urgent that we end up spending massively for some proven world beater anyway?first things first, GC just turned 28 (on 19th december to be precise), and DL is 26, so they both have atleast 4 good years each left. JT might not go on forever but he has been our best defender this season too and he has a couple of years in his bag too.now, i get your idea of buying zouma, i really do.but the main point of a good back 4 is consistency, how much time would zouma get in chelsea as a 4th choice CB. look at kalas !!! so thats 2 years atleast wasted for him.plus players like ake who are showing tremondous talent dont get a chance. simply does not seem worth it to me, especially since we have such big DM/ST issues as of this moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Cahill just turned 28 and Luiz is 26 mate.Oh my bad, I thought Cahill was born in -84 like Ivanovic.Still, my point stands because with Ake, Chalobah and Kalas we're talking about players who are 18-20 at the moment and can easily be candidates to replace our current defenders within a few years even if we got someone like Zouma. I wouldn't be so sure that we'll have any of our current four CBs three years from now. Terry is almost guaranteed to be retired, both Cahill and Ivanovic will be well over 30 and may be offloaded already and at the moment I wouldn't even bet on Luiz staying beyond this season, let alone still being at the club in 2017. Like I said, more than enough opportunities for each of the three youngsters to claim a place in the team if they're good enough and if not, the club would definitely be doing the right thing by investing in a player with world class potential now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 It's obvious that our name is just being thrown in there to raise the price. If we were in a "race" with Inter and Monaco we would have already signed him. They can't compete with us.Im pretty sure Monaco is equaly strong financialy to us (I think they are even crazier nowdays when comes to spend money easily), while Inter; sure they cant compete with neither two, they lack money and reputation atm.I think we are interested in Zouma, but not desperate, he is more an option than a priority. Certainly he is fine player and Mourinho bought Varane when he was in RM which resulted in fantastic buy. Surely Zouma could be our Varane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 we have chalobah, kalas, ake as our youth players so why do we need a 10/12mil pound player as our 4th CB?chalobah and ake both play midfield now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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