Vesper 30,175 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Zouma set to hand in transfer request to push through Everton move https://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2019/07/zouma-set-to-hand-in-transfer-request-to-push-through-everton-move/ Reports today are suggesting that Kurt Zouma could be ready to push hard for a move to Everton this summer. The Daily Star report claims that The Mirror have got the scoop that Evertonians have been waiting for – that the Blues could be set to sign Zouma on a permanent deal. Zouma had a successful loan spell at Goodison Park last season and Marco Silva is keen to add him to the squad permanently. A transfer ban affecting Chelsea – and new manager Frank Lampard arriving – this summer was initially thought to have got in the way of the transfer, but Silva could be about to get his man if these reports are true. snip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Vesper said: Zouma set to hand in transfer request to push through Everton move https://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2019/07/zouma-set-to-hand-in-transfer-request-to-push-through-everton-move/ Reports today are suggesting that Kurt Zouma could be ready to push hard for a move to Everton this summer. The Daily Star report claims that The Mirror have got the scoop that Evertonians have been waiting for – that the Blues could be set to sign Zouma on a permanent deal. Zouma had a successful loan spell at Goodison Park last season and Marco Silva is keen to add him to the squad permanently. A transfer ban affecting Chelsea – and new manager Frank Lampard arriving – this summer was initially thought to have got in the way of the transfer, but Silva could be about to get his man if these reports are true. snip I won't be distraught if he leaves. His lack of ability and composure on the ball will be what stops him from becoming elite and when Rudiger is back fit (which hopefully will be fairly shortly into the season) he'll be almost certainly 4th choice. It is also probably the best time to sell him in all honesty as Everton will be desperate to get him back after a successful loan spell and be prepared to pay big money for him. Add to that what Maguire is seemingly going for (which is quite frankly a joke), and we should surely be looking to cream £40-50m out of Everton for essentially a 4th choice centre back for us. I also see more potential upside in Tomori too, who is far more comfortable on the ball and comes with the benefits of being homegrown. In this season where Luiz isn't getting any younger and Rudiger may need to be eased back in, games should be available for him to still play and continue his development at the highest level. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Just now, Superblue_1986 said: I won't be distraught if he leaves. His lack of ability and composure on the ball will be what stops him from becoming elite and when Rudiger is back fit (which hopefully will be fairly shortly into the season) he'll be almost certainly 4th choice. It is also probably the best time to sell him in all honesty as Everton will be desperate to get him back after a successful loan spell and be prepared to pay big money for him. Add to that what Maguire is seemingly going for (which is quite frankly a joke), and we should surely be looking to cream £40-50m out of Everton for essentially a 4th choice centre back for us. I also see more potential upside in Tomori too, who is far more comfortable on the ball and comes with the benefits of being homegrown. In this season where Luiz isn't getting any younger and Rudiger may need to be eased back in, games should be available for him to still play and continue his development at the highest level. Leicester are on the verge of tossing out 45 MILLION QUID for Lewis Dunk, roflmaoooo surely we can get around £40m for Zouma Superblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Vesper said: Leicester are on the verge of tossing out 45 MILLION QUID for Lewis Dunk, roflmaoooo surely we can get around £40m for Zouma Yeah that's just as crazy as the Maguire numbers. Based on these deals and how hard we usually negotiate with our sales I think we should be pushing closer to £50m, even if that includes some add-ons. It is one of the positives we can take from our transfer ban, we're in no hurry to ship players out with no incomings and can "hardball" as much as we feel like. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: Yeah that's just as crazy as the Maguire numbers. Based on these deals and how hard we usually negotiate with our sales I think we should be pushing closer to £50m, even if that includes some add-ons. It is one of the positives we can take from our transfer ban, we're in no hurry to ship players out with no incomings and can "hardball" as much as we feel like. Lewis Dunk is a hack, and will be 28 in a few months, I understand 'English tax' but still, that is just silly money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Zouma will not cut it at our level imo, if we can get 40 plus then let him go. We need a big fucking war chest come next summer, so I wouldnt be against it. And look at those fees man, it totally out of control. 80-90M for Maguire? How is that in any shape or form a good value? Fuck me utd are stupid if they pay up. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, Vesper said: Leicester are on the verge of tossing out 45 MILLION QUID for Lewis Dunk, roflmaoooo surely we can get around £40m for Zouma According to Scouse accountancy United are buying Dunk for Leicester. Vesper and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: Zouma will not cut it at our level imo, if we can get 40 plus then let him go. We need a big fucking war chest come next summer, so I wouldnt be against it. And look at those fees man, it totally out of control. 80-90M for Maguire? How is that in any shape or form a good value? Fuck me utd are stupid if they pay up. especially given this On 18 July 2019, de Ligt signed for Serie A champions Juventus on a five year deal for €75 million (£67.5m). de Ligt is only 19 and already in the top 7 to 10 CB's in the world I can name 20 plus I would take over Harry Maguire, who also turns 27 this season, so his re-sale value is shit after 5 years Atomiswave and OneMoSalah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 52 minutes ago, Vesper said: especially given this On 18 July 2019, de Ligt signed for Serie A champions Juventus on a five year deal for €75 million (£67.5m). de Ligt is only 19 and already in the top 7 to 10 CB's in the world I can name 20 plus I would take over Harry Maguire, who also turns 27 this season, so his re-sale value is shit after 5 years You said it man.....its bunkers for real. Why is therer such a heavy fee for Eng players I will never know? Its like its a rare crown you are buying, I would get it if it was a peak Lamps or JT etc.....but now a days Zaha costs close to 80M.....get the fuck out of here with that horse shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 The truth about Everton target Kurt Zouma 'handing in Chelsea transfer request' KURT ZOUMA has not handed in a transfer request at Chelsea despite reports suggesting he has. https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/793227/Everton-Kurt-Zouma-Chelsea-transfer-request Chelsea though have the cloud of a transfer ban hanging over them and are reluctant to see any of their players leave. Everton want the Frenchman back on Merseyside having already made Andre Gomes’s loan move permanent from Barcelona in a £22m deal. But Zouma is not prepared to force through a move away from Stamford Bridge He suffered a major knee injury in 2016 and has since spent subsequent seasons on loan at Stoke and Everton. But the 24-year-old proved his worth last season for the Toffees and that has seen new blues boss Frank Lampard go public with his desire to keep Zouma. “I want him here, simple as that,” he said. “We are competitive with the centre-backs we have in the team and he had a very good season at Everton and I can understand why they want him. “He’s a Chelsea player and I want him.” Chelsea are even ready to loan out England Under 21 star Fikayo Timori to ensure Zouma’s playing time doesn’t suffer. Last season David Luiz and Antonio Rudiger established a partnership in the centre of defence under Maurizio Sarri. Danish star Andreas Christensen is also in the mix as Chelsea look to forge the necessary combinations ahead of their season opener against Manchester United. snip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Honestly would rather see Christensen given more game time and Tomori being used in cup games if it means we can get 30 or 40m for him. Good defender but struggles on the ball for me still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Funny thing is, from these pre-season games I've been more impressed by Tomori than Zouma. If Lampard wants the same marauding CB system he had at Derby then I would think Tomori is more suited to it than Zouma is. Which is sad since I think we all like Zouma a lot. ja1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Reports defender Kurt Zouma has handed in a transfer request to Chelsea are incorrect, according to Sky Sports. Zouma is currently on a pre-season tour with the club after spending last season on loan at Everton. The France international started last Friday's friendly defeat against Kawasaki Frontale alongside David Luiz in central defence. After the match, new manager Frank Lampard said he understood why there was interest in Zouma, but that he liked the player and insisted “he’s a Chelsea player”. Chelsea are currently under a FIFA transfer embargo and cannot sign any players during the next two windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I'd hope we keep both tomori and zouma but that may not be viable. But both seem more of the sort of defender (tomori was part of it obv) lamps would be looking for if he wants to play like he did at Derby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 12 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Honestly would rather see Christensen given more game time and Tomori being used in cup games if it means we can get 30 or 40m for him. Good defender but struggles on the ball for me still. Every top club has ball playing CB’s, and even lower clubs are trying to follow suit. Rudiger, Christensen,Luiz,Tomori !Hazard! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,073 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 My guess is that Frank feels he needs to hang on to both Kurt and Fikayo until Rudi returns fully to action. If Everton really want Kurt, maybe their best chance would be to offer cash plus a CB on a one year loan with an option to recall when Rudi is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: My guess is that Frank feels he needs to hang on to both Kurt and Fikayo until Rudi returns fully to action. If Everton really want Kurt, maybe their best chance would be to offer cash plus a CB on a one year loan with an option to recall when Rudi is back. An Everton CB? Yerry Mina has been disaster for them and Michael Keane is bang average. Zouma was probably their best CB last year. They are lacking CBs so loaning one to sign one wont happen on their part I would think. For all the minutes Tomori will play, as I would imagine Andreas will be used in place of Rudi with him out, it makes no sense to retain both him and Zouma. If we desperately need to we can use Azpi at CB and go to the u23s to give us depth. If we want to give Zouma/Tomori and Andreas a chance to get regular minutes we need to go into the season with 4 CBs. For me, Rudi, Andreas, Luiz and Tomori is more than enough. Or if we loan Tomori, retain Zouma. 5 CBs is a bit excessive I think. Plus if we are really screwed use Aspi there as previously mentioned and go to u23s to make up numbers for the bench if it comes to it. Squads bit bloated this year, in defence and in midfield. We need to get rid of a few players: Keepers is fine. -At RB either loan Reece James so he can play and retain Zappa/sell Zappa and retain Reece James. -CB, as mentioned, maybe see either Tomori loaned or Zouma sold. Last year we had Rudi, Luiz, Cahill (basically frozen out), Christensen and Ampadu (who rarely played there as it was). 5 would be 1 too much, especially in an area of the pitch where you want settled partnerships. Having 5 and chopping and changing is a bad idea. All good teams are built on a solid foundation so I would like to think this is the first thing Frank will try and do is establish his first choice CB pairing and defence. Then give the other 2 guys a chance to show their worth in cup games and try work their way in. Plus not even mentioned the likes of Clarke-Salter, Trevor Chalobah etc who could be considered for that area of the pitch although not sure theyre at the level for thay yet. -LB with Alonso and Emerson, we arent gonna see any changes there. Kenedy isnt a LB and I would hope he is moved on. -Midfield is a bit heavy. Kante, Kova, Jorginho, Ruben, Ross and Mason are probably safe and wont be going anywhere. One of Bakayoko or Drinkwater has to go for definite, if not both. Still worried about how Frank intends on using Ross, Ruben and Mason because they all play the same position basically as the most advanced midfielder. -Wings are fine because we know who will be there and who wont be, or wont be when those who need to be moved on, are moved on. Willian, Pedro, CHO and Pulisic will be the 4 in the squad. -Strikers, not amazing pick but Giroud, Batshuayi and Tammy, look like the 3 we will be using. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 22.7.2019 at 4:04 PM, OhForAGreavsie said: My guess is that Frank feels he needs to hang on to both Kurt and Fikayo until Rudi returns fully to action. If Everton really want Kurt, maybe their best chance would be to offer cash plus a CB on a one year loan with an option to recall when Rudi is back. We can not register players not even loanees i think If Kurt wants to leave we should let him for the right price. We have more than enough cover for the position even in the absence of Rüdiger. Api can play there, Alonso too. OhForAGreavsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,073 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 On 23/07/2019 at 10:51 PM, Magic Lamps said: We can not register players not even loanees i think If Kurt wants to leave we should let him for the right price. We have more than enough cover for the position even in the absence of Rüdiger. Api can play there, Alonso too. Of course you are right. Stupid of me. Thanks for pointing it out. It wasn't a totally serious comment mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBOfficial 8 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 On 23/07/2019 at 10:51 PM, Magic Lamps said: We can not register players not even loanees i think If Kurt wants to leave we should let him for the right price. We have more than enough cover for the position even in the absence of Rüdiger. Api can play there, Alonso too. He’s our best pure defender why should we even consider letting him go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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