Nemanja Matic

[Kieran. 6,317]

11 minutes ago, Gilvorak said:

Jokes on you, I'm done with Oscar too after his OT performance. Go after Isco who's unsettled and sell him to Juve.

You can't defend someone for like a year or two then say "jokes on you" after you change your mind a week ago.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

1 minute ago, Kieran. said:

You can't defend someone for like a year or two then say "jokes on you" after you change your mind a week ago.

Huh? He tried to derail the thread by bringing up a player that has nothing to do with Matic.

[lucio 5,418]

55 minutes ago, Gilvorak said:

And Matic could never deliver the Munich performance of Mikel. JOB is far from infallible but unlike Matic he can actually pass and is one of the best in the World under pressure. He added swagger and confidence to the team today and played well alongside Chelsea's current whipping boy under awful conditions.

 

The entire team must be delighted that they aren't playing alongisde a cancer that's constantly caught of position, simply cannot pass at the standards of the Top level DM's and doesn't constantly overdribble.

i'm cautious about using munich as an example. any other day, we would have lost 6-0, and no one would mention obi doing a few spins and passes

[DYC. 7,542]

12 minutes ago, lucio said:

i'm cautious about using munich as an example. any other day, we would have lost 6-0, and no one would mention obi doing a few spins and passes

I have to agree with this. Mikel's performance vs Munich is often hailed as some kind of masterclass. But it really wasn't. Munich were far too dominant to make such a claim. He did well, with a couple strong plays, but it wasn't a great performance. It's not like he shut down any of their players and he wasn't a dominant force in midfield by being a step ahead of his opponents either.

[didierforever 7,349]

1 hour ago, Gilvorak said:

Haahahaha

 

Running around like a headless chicken and giving the ball away for fun is not a MoTM performance.

hahahhahaa... are you talking about oscar or matic? hahahahha

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Matic is a B2B midfielder masquerading as a DM but doesn't offer anywhere enough going forward to play that role so he's pigeonholed there.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

I've given up on Gilvorak when he claimed Muller wouldn't play in any other top side in europe, so i don't know why are we still arguing about Matic with him.

[Stats 7,136]

Mikel puts in a worldy and some now think it is alright to sell Matic?

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

5 hours ago, Gilvorak said:

Hopefully he's sold. He could never deliver the sort of performance Mikel did today. Doesn't have the intelligence or technique JOB has.

Wonder if you share the same sentiment towards the golden child, Oscar dos Santos Emboaba Júnior. 

[LDN Blue 7,903]

4 minutes ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

Wonder if you share the same sentiment towards the golden child, Oscar dos Santos Emboaba Júnior. 

Or perhaps it's Oscar dos Santos Emenalo Júnior

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

I don't get the fuss around the whole 'Matic vs Mikel' debate. Both have different qualities and will be used in different types of games.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

9 minutes ago, Hybrid Angel said:

I don't get the fuss around the whole 'Matic vs Mikel' debate. Both have different qualities and will be used in different types of games.

But I think that fact alone is quite alarming wouldn't you say? At the peak of Matic's time in 2013-14 he was a rock in the midfield and the fact he was settled there doing an adequate job was vital. You want your defensive midfield settled. We had a time where Makelele made that his own position and then Essien did the same. Since Essien we've been juggling with Mikel, Romeu, Van Ginkle and now Matic. You can see how that's working to our detriment. The best two team in the world Bayern & Barca have these positions filled with settled players and you can see them reaping the rewards.

[robsblubot 3,595]

17 minutes ago, Hybrid Angel said:

I don't get the fuss around the whole 'Matic vs Mikel' debate. Both have different qualities and will be used in different types of games.

There is no such debate as the transfer market puts them in completely different tiers. Same with Oscar, but apparently juve is a small club around here.

Mikel was good today - playing against week opposition but away from home. He was under no pressure when in possession, and kept playing deep in uncontested areas. He did defend well for change though.

If mikel were able to do more, over the many years he's been at the club, and against better opposition, Matic wouldn't even be on the squad!

what Matic does on the pitch is far more difficult than what Mikel does. That's why Matic is priced in the 25m+ range and Mikel 10m-. (The difference may actually be much greater)

[Gilvorak 3,734]

9 hours ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

I've given up on Gilvorak when he claimed Muller wouldn't play in any other top side in europe, so i don't know why are we still arguing about Matic with him.

What the fuck are you talking about? Muller wouldn't start for Madrid or Barca. Get over it.

 

And yes he wouldn't start for Bayern either if Ribery wasn't a crock.

[didierforever 7,349]

so now muller is no good too.  some people.