🇷🇸 Nemanja Matic

[GQman2121 17]

28 minutes ago, mccg said:

No i meant the stupido loan deal they screwed us with(think we got 17mill off them ) So lets hope if they want Matic we get Sandro for peanuts

How exactly did they screw Chelsea on that deal? It seemed very fair at the time and got a player that never settled in England off the books. His initial fee has essentially been completely recouped and he's now Juve's problem as it seem they're now trying to offload him.

[mccg 1,528]

46 minutes ago, GQman2121 said:

How exactly did they screw Chelsea on that deal? It seemed very fair at the time and got a player that never settled in England off the books. His initial fee has essentially been completely recouped and he's now Juve's problem as it seem they're now trying to offload him.

Yeah a 3 year loan deal was a awesome deal lol

[GQman2121 17]

2 hours ago, mccg said:

Yeah a 3 year loan deal was a awesome deal lol

Umm, yes...?

Three year loan where they were forced to outright purchase him if they won Serie A which they did. 

Again, the club recouped their investment and have moved on. What's the issue?

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

10 minutes ago, GQman2121 said:

Umm, yes...?

Three year loan where they were forced to outright purchase him if they won Serie A which they did. 

Again, the club recouped their investment and have moved on. What's the issue?

I think we were also paid 2-3M a season for the loan.  Then the agreed purchase fee.  I believe that we finished somewhere around break even, all said and done.  Maybe a little lower or a little higher.  But practically even.  

I think I recall this, might be wrong.

[mccg 1,528]

25 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

I think we were also paid 2-3M a season for the loan.  Then the agreed purchase fee.  I believe that we finished somewhere around break even, all said and done.  Maybe a little lower or a little higher.  But practically even.  

I think I recall this, might be wrong.

Yeah hope we get Sandro on similar

 

39 minutes ago, GQman2121 said:

Umm, yes...?

Three year loan where they were forced to outright purchase him if they won Serie A which they did. 

Again, the club recouped their investment and have moved on. What's the issue?

Yeah hope we get Sandro on a similar deal !

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Chelsea outcast Nemanja Matic trains with Eden Hazard after being left out of Asia tour while Pedro begins recovery from multiple fractures

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4732022/Chelsea-outcast-Nemanja-Matic-trains-Eden-Hazard.html

[mccg 1,528]

Man Utd willing to pay £40m for Chelsea ace Nemanja Matic: Jose Mourinho confident of deal

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/632775/Nemanja-Matic-Man-Utd-Chelsea-40m-Jose-Mourinho-confident-rumours-gossip-news

£50 mill or feck off . Or £30 mill and Luke Shaw , if he goes there we better get  more than a decent deal .

[manpe 10,861]

16 minutes ago, mccg said:

Man Utd willing to pay £40m for Chelsea ace Nemanja Matic: Jose Mourinho confident of deal

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/632775/Nemanja-Matic-Man-Utd-Chelsea-40m-Jose-Mourinho-confident-rumours-gossip-news

£50 mill or feck off . Or £30 mill and Luke Shaw , if he goes there we better get  more than a decent deal .

Why do you want Luke Shaw?

[mccg 1,528]

35 minutes ago, manpe said:

Why do you want Luke Shaw?

I like him and think barring injuries he still has the potential to be a top quality lb/lwb and a upgrade from Alonso(no diss)and a area we need!

[manpe 10,861]

I like him and think barring injuries he still has the potential to be a top quality lb/lwb and a upgrade from Alonso(no diss)and a area we need!

Okay, that's a valid opinion. But riddle me this: Would you think the same if he was a random Congolese player from Ligue 1, who had the same hype as Luke did a few years ago, then moved to a genuinely big team and hasn't produced a decent season since? Who hasn't broken through in that big team, who hasn't played over 20 games a season for 3 years due to serious injury problems and who has been criticized by different managers for attitude problems? I say stay away, we need an upgrade on Alonso, not a backup to a player who would ideally be backup to someone much better. Luke Shaw is not better and he will not play over Alonso if he came here, pointless. Also, going from Alex Sandro to Luke Shaw is like going from Messi to Andros Townsend, just so underwhelming. We need to aim higher, much higher, someone who can actually improve us.

 

 

 

[mccg 1,528]

16 minutes ago, manpe said:

Okay, that's a valid opinion. But riddle me this: Would you think the same if he was a random Congolese player from Ligue 1, who had the same hype as Luke did a few years ago, then moved to a genuinely big team and hasn't produced a decent season since? Who hasn't broken through in that big team, who hasn't played over 20 games a season for 3 years due to serious injury problems and who has been criticized by different managers for attitude problems? I say stay away, we need an upgrade on Alonso, not a backup to a player who would ideally be backup to someone much better. Luke Shaw is not better and he will not play over Alonso if he came here, pointless. Also, going from Alex Sandro to Luke Shaw is like going from Messi to Andros Townsend, just so underwhelming. We need to aim higher, much higher, someone who can actually improve us.

 

 

 

Fair enough points manpe,2bf man u in general have been shit since he went and his injuries have mostly been unlucky (he was showing his worth before horror break)it will be interesting what kinda season he has this1, just a thought as it looks like Sandro ain't coming and options thin on the ground? And it is manu !

[communicate 2,703]

I still don't understand why are we selling Matic 

Does he want to leave like Costa or Conte does not want him anymore ?

[nyikolajevics 2,698]

5 hours ago, communicate said:

I still don't understand why are we selling Matic 

Does he want to leave like Costa or Conte does not want him anymore ?

Well, he was clearly a weak point in the team. There was only Fábregas and Chalobas so he played a lot but we needed a midfielder who is better with the ball, stronger and better with his head. With Bakayoko arriving Matic is out of the starting eleven, everyone knows that. Probably Conte and the club wants to keep him but at Manchester United he would be one of the first names in the starting eleven and Italian teams are after him too. So I think we don't want to sell him but he wants to go.

[xPetrCechx 13,571]

7 hours ago, communicate said:

I still don't understand why are we selling Matic 

Does he want to leave like Costa or Conte does not want him anymore ?

I think he wants to leave.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Being left out of pre season tells you everything about this situation, it's a matter of when and not if.

Use the money do not stock pile it.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

So happy this bum will no longer be in the team. 

Lots of deadwood been cleared under Conte, just a few more needed.

[Johnnyeye 7,509]

29 minutes ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

So happy this bum will no longer be in the team. 

Lots of deadwood been cleared under Conte, just a few more needed.

this "bum" helped us win 2 premier league titles, show a little more respect to our players, he might not be part of Conte´s plans but at least he gave everything for this club, he had many good performances since the day he joined, one of the main reasons we won the title in 2015, and now despite not being everyone´s cup of tea he gave his best and was there for the team, maybe he can shine elsewhere now, he´s not the garbage many paint him to be, i was hoping he could still be around for next season because of squad depth and his experience, i really hope he gets appreciation wherever he ends up, i wish him all the best. Cheers

[TheWiz 109]

8 hours ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

So happy this bum will no longer be in the team. 

Lots of deadwood been cleared under Conte, just a few more needed.

This "Bum" won us two EPL Titles by putting up a fierce Dictatorship on every opposing Midfield in the League. Johnny is right, show some respect.

To all of you Couch Professionals ... Let me explain once again ...

Bakayoko cannot and will not fully replace Matic ... Because Bakayoko is a good, but EPL inexperienced Footballer ... While Matic is an experienced Football Genius, who (just like anyone else) has his ups and downs.

Think about it fore a Second ... The Chelsea Board would turn out to be the biggest Monkey Gang in HIstory, if they were to sell him to United in order to let them form a Midfield likely to turn out one of the greatest in League History.

Won't happen ... Unless Matic himself finds a way to push the deal through forcefully.

[Thor 2,704]

9 hours ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

So happy this bum will no longer be in the team. 

Lots of deadwood been cleared under Conte, just a few more needed.

Matic was probably as good, if not better than Kante in his first season with us. 

[communicate 2,703]

11 hours ago, nyikolajevics said:

Well, he was clearly a weak point in the team. There was only Fábregas and Chalobas so he played a lot but we needed a midfielder who is better with the ball, stronger and better with his head. With Bakayoko arriving Matic is out of the starting eleven, everyone knows that. Probably Conte and the club wants to keep him but at Manchester United he would be one of the first names in the starting eleven and Italian teams are after him too. So I think we don't want to sell him but he wants to go.

That is a shame. We definitely need him for next season but if a player want to go,we should let him go at good price